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Roy Hibbert Uses Gay Slur in Post Game Press Conference

MaggieD said:
I see. So it was just a general insult. Kind of like he could have said, "LeBron James plays like a retard." Oh, then it's okay then.
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I din't say that. I said insulting someone is not expressing an unpopular opinion.
 
Fisher said:
I don't wear panties, and it does not matter what his intentions were. One day you will realize--assuming that you actually do think--that punishing people for expressing unpopular opinions has a way to come around and bite you in the ass no matter how right you think you are in the moment.
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If a waiter of mine uses a slur towards a customer,I ove hear it,and fire that waiter,I'm in the wrong?
 
rocket88 said:
He wasn't expressing an unpopular opinion. It's something you might have latched on to if you read the freaking article, but you were too busy feeling persecuted to do that. Assuming that you can read.

Maybe we should just say that insulting people with slurs is not OK. Me calling you a "pole smoker" is not expressing an unpopular opinion.
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If it is not an unpopular opinion, he wouldn't be fined now would he? To be all-knowing, you sure have no clue what you are saying, but at least that assumption about you thinking was apparently misplaced in this case.
 
Verthaine said:
If a waiter of mine uses a slur towards a customer,I ove hear it,and fire that waiter,I'm in the wrong?
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Depends on what your contract says.
 
MaggieD said:
Time for some sensitivity training in the NBA. It's not okay.
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gag me with a spoon. the left constantly wants to 'reeducate' people who don't buy into their agenda. as WF Buckley Jr once noted, leftwing minorities use their alleged oppressed status to stifle any comments they find uncomfortable.
 
Fisher said:
If it is not an unpopular opinion, he wouldn't be fined now would he? To be all-knowing, you sure have no clue what you are saying, but at least that assumption about you thinking was apparently misplaced in this case.
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Do you get that he wasn't saying anything about gays? Would you consider it OK to call a white player a "n-word?" After all, it's just an unpopular opinion isn't it.

BTW, you're a pole smoker, and you can't report me for saying that and have any integrity whatsoever. I'm just expressing an unpopular opinion
 
MarineTpartier said:
If a thread has already been started about this, please merge this with it. However, I searched for one and did not see it.

This is an overreaction IMO. How is it okay for Jason Collins to proclaim his sexuality but not okay for Roy Hibbert to say what he said? The sexual preference of public figures is something that homosexuals use constantly to further their cause. When the other side says something, I don't believe it to be proper for the gay community and/or gay supporters to attempt to shame them or muzzle them. Simple as that.

Pacers center Roy Hibbert apologizes for gay slur, *reaches out to Jason Collins* - NY Daily News
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When Jason Collins came out of the closet it was not a negative statement or a positive statement. It was not an insult to anybody but just him saying that he was gay.

Roy Hibbert however did not make a statement that was meant to be neutral but he intended to insult. So what he said was nothing like what Collins said, not the same words and certainly not the same meaning. Also, he got the fine for saying negative words about gays and using profanity.
 
TurtleDude said:
gag me with a spoon. the left constantly wants to 'reeducate' people who don't buy into their agenda. as WF Buckley Jr once noted, leftwing minorities use their alleged oppressed status to stifle any comments they find uncomfortable.
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You certainly aren't calling me a left winger, are you?

I can't believe you feel that strongly about it. Must be a guy/sports thing. It's rude and obnoxious to use racial slurs, even if that's not the way they're intended. It would be wrong for him to call somebody a "stupid nigger." It would be wrong to say somebody plays like a REtard. He's a professional representing his team, for God's sake, on national television. Not behind the barn gettin' nookie.
 
MaggieD said:
Time for some sensitivity training in the NBA. It's not okay.
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Hibbert is a center. His balls are probably always getting hit by people like Collins. I'm just sayin'...

He complains about that as well. In fact, he just done bitching about Shane Battier constantly doing it.
 
Fisher said:
Depends on what your contract says.
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I'm pretty sure the NBA has something in their contracts about using slurs and offensive language when representing the NBA,which Hibbert was during that press conference.

And regardless of what the "my contract says" I have every right to fine,punish,or outright fire one of my employees if he is using foul or offensive language whether he is on MY dining floor room,in MY kitchen,or out on the streets handing out MY menus.He is representing ME and MY company.
Hibbert can probably pay the fine with the change he finds digging under his sofa cushions.
 
MaggieD said:
You certainly aren't calling me a left winger, are you?

I can't believe you feel that strongly about it. Must be a guy/sports thing. It's rude and obnoxious to use racial slurs, even if that's not the way they're intended. It would be wrong for him to call somebody a "stupid nigger." It would be wrong to say somebody plays like a REtard. He's a professional representing his team, for God's sake, on national television. Not behind the barn gettin' nookie.
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I get tired of America's growing tendency to manufacture and disseminate faux outrage. Its a tactic used by the cowardly
 
Verthaine said:
I'm pretty sure the NBA has something in their contracts about using slurs and offensive language when representing the NBA,which Hibbert was during that press conference.

And regardless of what the "my contract says" I have every right to fine,punish,or outright fire one of my employees if he is using foul or offensive language whether he is on MY dining floor room,in MY kitchen,or out on the streets handing out MY menus.He is representing ME and MY company.
Hibbert can probably pay the fine with the change he finds digging under his sofa cushions.
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I did the math in an earlier post. His $75,000 fine means the same thing to him that a $1,100 fine would mean to a guy making $75,000. Peanuts.
 
Verthaine said:
I'm pretty sure the NBA has something in their contracts about using slurs and offensive language when representing the NBA,which Hibbert was during that press conference.

And regardless of what the "my contract says" I have every right to fine,punish,or outright fire one of my employees if he is using foul or offensive language whether he is on MY dining floor room,in MY kitchen,or out on the streets handing out MY menus.He is representing ME and MY company.
Hibbert can probably pay the fine with the change he finds digging under his sofa cushions.
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No one in their right mind would fire Hibbert for anything he said.
 
TurtleDude said:
I get tired of America's growing tendency to manufacture and disseminate faux outrage. Its a tactic used by the cowardly
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You're representing your law firm at a conference and giving the keynote address. How do you think it'd go over if you said, "I enjoy my professional association with Dewey, Cheatem & Howe, but that Howe guy? He's a reeeeal homo."

Faux outrage?
 
MaggieD said:
You're representing your law firm at a conference and giving the keynote address. How do you think it'd go over if you said, "I enjoy my professional association with Dewey, Cheatem & Howe, but that Howe guy? He's a reeeeal homo."

Faux outrage?
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What if he was a flamer?

the fact is we are creating a nation of wimps with all this idiocy of people engaging in faux indignation.
 
Henrin said:
No one in their right mind would fire Hibbert for anything he said.
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Wait a minute. If you're coming from the angle of the OP... If the church has the right to excommunicate gays, why doesn't the NBA have the right to penalize homophobia? I mean, everyone (including private organizations) should be allowed to have their positions, right?

On what grounds can someone who supports church and boy scout exclusionary policies complain about NBA policy? Especially on the base of ~"everyone should have the right to their opinion".
 
Excommunicate me, it was worth it.........................
 
Bonzai said:
Excommunicate me, it was worth it.........................
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Do you grasp my point regarding the hypocrisy of the OP logic? Organizations should be allowed to have their positions (this is drawn from ~"everyone should have the right to their opinion"), but not the NBA because they're on the other side.

Nonsense.

One must either demand churches marry gays or accept that the NBA can have its policy. Of course, one could do both, but one cannot accept church (and, until recently?) boy scout policy and at the same time give the NBA crap - especially on the grounds of ~"right to opinion".
 
Henrin said:
No one in their right mind would fire Hibbert for anything he said.
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Be that as that may,you didn't argue that the NBA had no right to fine (i.e "punish") Hibbert either.
 
rocket88 said:
Because insulting someone is not OK. For example - Do you think it's OK to say the n-word? Most people don't, and that's not even a liberal/conservative thing. Plus, he wasn't giving his opinion of Jason Collins as a person or as a ball player. He wasn't giving his opinion about homosexuality in general. He used the term "homo" as an insult toward LeBron James. Can you tell the difference?
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What quote are you reading? Because I'm OBVIOUSLY reading something different as I don't see anywhere that he used the term "homo" as an "insult toward" James.

“There was Game 3 here that I felt I let Paul (George) down in terms of having his back when LeBron was scoring in the post or getting into the paint because they stretched me out so much — no homo (laughs) — but I want to be there for him. I think he has a chance to be MVP of this league next year.”
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This wasn't calling anyone gay, or insulting anyone for being gay, it was him making a statement that unintentionally could have some innuendo attached to it and qualified that the innuendo wasn't serious or intended.

Was it juvenile? Absolutely. Was it a "Slur", especially something you wantonly compare to Nigger? Absolutely not. Was it an "insult towards" Lebron James? Not at all. At best, it was a comment about the Heat as a team...and it was a COMPLIMENT, that they managed to cause Hibbard to get out of position.

Seriously, if someone was saying he said a juvenile, insensitive thing, that's one thing....but a "Slur?" Comparable to nigger? Insulting towards Lebron James? I think that's just a wonderful example of people immediately grabbing an issue and staking out an ideological position on it because that's the only way they see the world, regardless of facts or reality.
 
ecofarm said:
Wait a minute. If you're coming from the angle of the OP...

If the church has the right to excommunicate gays, why doesn't the NBA have the right to penalize homophobia?

I mean, everyone (including private organizations) should be allowed to have their positions, right?
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I said nothing about not punishing him. He is not your twelfth man on the bench that must watch his mouth or risk losing his job and never find his way on a roster again. He is an NBA star and one of the best centers in the league that has the possibility of never finding himself out of the starting role in his entire career. Also, with his skill set and his height there is no one out there that can possibility bring to the floor what he does, so a trade is also off the table. The only thing they can really do is fine him, but that will do nothing from stopping him from saying whatever he wants in the future.
 
MaggieD said:
You're representing your law firm at a conference and giving the keynote address. How do you think it'd go over if you said, "I enjoy my professional association with Dewey, Cheatem & Howe, but that Howe guy? He's a reeeeal homo."

Faux outrage?
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That's not really comparable.

Am I missing something? WHO in the world did he call a HOMO? He suggested something he meant wasn't meant in a homosexual fashion. Juvenile? Sure. But completely different than the repeated attempts of people in this thread to compare it to calling someone a homo/nigger/etc.
 
TurtleDude said:
What if he was a flamer?

the fact is we are creating a nation of wimps with all this idiocy of people engaging in faux indignation.
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So if one of my waiters calls one of my customers "a homo" regardless if he's a flamer or not, that customer has no right to be offended,complain to me (the guy who owns the restaurant) they are eating in,and I have no right to take disciplinary action on that waiter?
 
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