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Former IRS chief Shulman reportedly visited White House at least 157 times [W:243]

Re: Former IRS chief Shulman reportedly visited White House at least 157 times

This whole thing is really just monumentally stupid. Anyone who really, seriously thinks that this is some kind of scandal needs to get their head checked.
 
Re: Former IRS chief Shulman reportedly visited White House at least 157 times

This whole thing is really just monumentally stupid. Anyone who really, seriously thinks that this is some kind of scandal needs to get their head checked.

Thanks for the nothing burger opinion. Every time we hear its not a scandal it moves higher up the chain of command. It was just one unit in Cincinnati right?
 
Re: Former IRS chief Shulman reportedly visited White House at least 157 times

This whole thing is really just monumentally stupid. Anyone who really, seriously thinks that this is some kind of scandal needs to get their head checked.

I agree. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.
 
Re: Former IRS chief Shulman reportedly visited White House at least 157 times

I want to Know who was Harry Reid's source was on Romney's tax returns?
connect the dots
 
Re: Former IRS chief Shulman reportedly visited White House at least 157 times

Woah, 157 times.... It's tough to argue with those numbers. What I want to know is how Obama managed to blackmail Bush into appointing one of his evil henchmen.

I knew Obama was smart, but this is Dr Evil brilliant. To think that he tricked Bush into appointing Schulman so that Schulman could secretly target small tea party groups (which didn't exist yet). And then he won an election because he asked those groups a few annoying questions when they applied for a status they weren't qualified for even though they didn't actually have to apply.
he also worked for Clinton and donated to Obamas campain
 
Re: Former IRS chief Shulman reportedly visited White House at least 157 times

:lol:The OP is pathetic.
Really? That's your response?

That's really pathetic.
 
Re: Former IRS chief Shulman reportedly visited White House at least 157 times

I love how Obama worshipers are beclowning themselves by claiming Obama is the most clueless moron ever to occupy the WH in order to defend him from all these scandals

I mean the POTUS only learned about this from the nightly news and not from the IRS chief who visited the WH 157 times? Really libs?
 
Re: Former IRS chief Shulman reportedly visited White House at least 157 times

That is exactly what I have been trying to tell them. :doh
This whole thing is really just monumentally stupid. Anyone who really, seriously thinks that this is some kind of scandal needs to get their head checked.
 
Re: Former IRS chief Shulman reportedly visited White House at least 157 times

:lol:The OP is pathetic.

So is your president criminal? Or just stupid?
 
Re: Former IRS chief Shulman reportedly visited White House at least 157 times

He is your president too. And neither. His opponents are so hard up they keep making up outrages with no evidence, get all outraged over it, and the presidents popularity continues to grow. Hummmm, wonder who's stupid.
So is your president criminal? Or just stupid?
 
Re: Former IRS chief Shulman reportedly visited White House at least 157 times

He is your president too. And neither. His opponents are so hard up they keep making up outrages with no evidence, get all outraged over it, and the presidents popularity continues to grow. Hummmm, wonder who's stupid.

You're delusional.

Obama's whole operation is just dripping in filth. It makes Watergate look like forgetting to tip your waitress.
 
Re: Former IRS chief Shulman reportedly visited White House at least 157 times

Ok thanks for the info.
You're delusional.

Obama's whole operation is just dripping in filth. It makes Watergate look like forgetting to tip your waitress.
 
Re: Former IRS chief Shulman reportedly visited White House at least 157 times

Just chatting about the NCAA tournament, eh Mr. President?

I don't think this is necessarily sinister in that Obama has been trying to fiddle around with tax issues on the margins since he took office and as has been noted there are ACA implications for the IRS. It's also not known, at least I haven't heard, how many times Obama or anyone senior in the White House actually met with him. It's quite possible that the White House was simply the venue for a meeting.

It is odd though, in comparison, to visits by the head of the IRS to the Bush White House which I believe I saw was in the neighborhood of the mid-teens, 16 or 17, if I'm not mistaken.

This is why White House transparency should be normal practice and why Obama has utterly failed in his so called "most transparent administration in history".
 
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That seems pretty damning.
 
Re: Former IRS chief Shulman reportedly visited White House at least 157 times

Pssst...he likes the food in the cafeteria. There is at least as much evidence of that as there is this silly dammin stuff.
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That seems pretty damning.
 
Re: Former IRS chief Shulman reportedly visited White House at least 157 times

Just chatting about the NCAA tournament, eh Mr. President?

It like he was there to talk about health care:

I shared the same concern regarding the disclosure of IRS Commissioner Shulman’s visits to the White House. But they were quickly assuaged when I looked at the actual data, which can be downloaded here. The correspondence from your reader on your updated post seems absolutely correct – looks like many (if not most) were about health care. I engaged in a cursory review of the first 20 or so Shulman entiries, and virtually all were with individuals involved with the health care reform proposal. In particular, the contact for most of the initial meetings was Nancy-Ann Deparle, the Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy, who was at the center of shaping health care reform. One entry specifically notes that it was for the “bi-weekly health reform deputies meeting.”

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Explain This, Mr Carlson « The Dish
 
Re: Former IRS chief Shulman reportedly visited White House at least 157 times

It like he was there to talk about health care:

I shared the same concern regarding the disclosure of IRS Commissioner Shulman’s visits to the White House. But they were quickly assuaged when I looked at the actual data, which can be downloaded here. The correspondence from your reader on your updated post seems absolutely correct – looks like many (if not most) were about health care. I engaged in a cursory review of the first 20 or so Shulman entiries, and virtually all were with individuals involved with the health care reform proposal. In particular, the contact for most of the initial meetings was Nancy-Ann Deparle, the Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy, who was at the center of shaping health care reform. One entry specifically notes that it was for the “bi-weekly health reform deputies meeting.”

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Explain This, Mr Carlson « The Dish

then explain why he was there 3 times more then Kathleen Sebelus Health and Human Services Secretary who is in charge of implimenting Obama care?

he was there more then any other cabinet member by a long shot
 
Re: Former IRS chief Shulman reportedly visited White House at least 157 times

then explain why he was there 3 times more then Kathleen Sebelus Health and Human Services Secretary who is in charge of implimenting Obama care?

he was there more then any other cabinet member by a long shot
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Re: Former IRS chief Shulman reportedly visited White House at least 157 times


also the Daily Caller didn't try to mislead any one they made it clear that a WH visits doesn't always mean to the actual WH or that all visits are logged like the article you linked suggested they tried to do

The visitor logs do not give a complete picture of White House access. Some high-level officials get cleared for access and do not have to sign in during visits. A Washington Post database of visitor log records cautions, “The log may include some scheduled visits that did not take place and exclude visits by members of Congress, top officials and others who are not required to sign in at security gates.”

Read more: Shulman had more White House visits than any Cabinet member | The Daily Caller

also the Daily Caller article gave this link that also explains not all visits are to the actual WH

The Obama administration each month releases a log of people who pass through the White House security system, which also includes visits to the vice president's residence and two executive office buildings.
White House Visitor Log - The Washington Post

the article you linked is the misleading one not the Daily Caller
 
Re: Former IRS chief Shulman reportedly visited White House at least 157 times

also the Daily Caller didn't try to mislead any one they made it clear that a WH visits doesn't always mean to the actual WH or that all visits are logged like the article you linked suggested they tried to do



Read more: Shulman had more White House visits than any Cabinet member | The Daily Caller

also the Daily Caller article gave this link that also explains not all visits are to the actual WH


White House Visitor Log - The Washington Post

the article you linked is the misleading one not the Daily Caller
The Daily Caller didn't want to mislead anyone??? Are you ****ing kidding me? Is that why they put the video of him testifying? Is that why Grim17 said it looks pretty damning? Is that why every right leaning blog in the world is referencing the story. HaHaHAHA
 
Re: Former IRS chief Shulman reportedly visited White House at least 157 times

The Daily Caller didn't want to mislead anyone??? Are you ****ing kidding me? Is that why they put the video of him testifying? Is that why Grim17 said it looks pretty damning? Is that why every right leaning blog in the world is referencing the story. HaHaHAHA
that is the readers fault the information is in the article. even with the information being provided it is still damming

still waiting for your explanation if he was there for Obama care reasons then why he was there 3 times more then Kathleen Sebelus Health and Human Services Secretary who is in charge of implementing Obama care?
 
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Re: Former IRS chief Shulman reportedly visited White House at least 157 times

that is the readers fault the information is in the article. even with the information being provided it is still damming
What do you mean when you say its damning? Do you honestly believe President Obama was responsible the IRS scandal?
 
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