• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

Jredbaron96 said:
Really? What basis do you have for this claim? Sure, I think we might have a case or two, bust just how often do you think this is going to happen?



It's cute when conservatives pretend to know what I believe.



There are a few things premature at this point.
Click to expand...

Progressives are all the same.... I do know what you believe. Do you think I was born conservative?

When I was in my late teens and early 20's I was a progressivebot - we all agreed on everything... The whole "we all agree in cohesion" nonsense started to set bells off in my head.. It doesn't for you?

When it comes to politics, party policies and law you are all the same...
 
Mr.Nick said:
Progressives are all the same....
Click to expand...

That's kind of sterotpyical, and somewhat irrelevant considering my lean says "Liberal", not "Progressive"

I do know what you believe.
Click to expand...

Go ahead and tell me everything you think I believe. Go on. I'll wait.

Do you think I was born conservative?
Click to expand...

Perhaps. People are born mentally handicapped all the time.

When I was in my late teens and early 20's I was a progressivebot - we all agreed on everything... The whole "we all agree in cohesion" nonsense started to set bells off in my head.. It doesn't for you?
Click to expand...

I bet more than bells went off in your head. Again, why are you telling me this?

When it comes to politics, party policies and law you are all the same...
Click to expand...

Again, that's pretty stereotypical. You really should rethink the topic of this thread.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
That's kind of sterotpyical, and somewhat irrelevant considering my lean says "Liberal", not "Progressive"



Go ahead and tell me everything you think I believe. Go on. I'll wait.



Perhaps. People are born mentally handicapped all the time.



I bet more than bells went off in your head. Again, why are you telling me this?



Again, that's pretty stereotypical. You really should rethink the topic of this thread.
Click to expand...

I don't need to tell you about you because I was you, and even if I psychoanalyzed you perfectly you would deny it because even YOU don't know who you are. Most progressives are nothing but personas IMO. You're collectivist thinkers not individual thinkers. In short - you want "kick it" with your gangs ideas and are willing to abandon your own to "fit in."

Typical teenage stuff.
 
Mr.Nick said:
I don't need to tell you about you because I was you,
Click to expand...

Wow, really? That's so cool! Quick, what was the name of my first date?


and even if I psychoanalyzed you perfectly you would deny it because even YOU don't know who you are.
Click to expand...

Huh. That seems a bit unusual. I think I would know myself better than some random jackoff on the internet.

Most progressives are nothing but personas IMO.
Click to expand...

Huh. What an interesting claim. Your source?

You're collectivist thinkers not individual thinkers.
Click to expand...

We are the Borg. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile!

In short - you want "kick it" with your gangs ideas and are willing to abandon your own to "fit in."
Click to expand...

I hang with the cool kids.

Typical teenage stuff.
Click to expand...

I can't hear you over the sound of my punk rock.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
Wow, really? That's so cool! Quick, what was the name of my first date?




Huh. That seems a bit unusual. I think I would know myself better than some random jackoff on the internet.



Huh. What an interesting claim. Your source?



We are the Borg. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile!



I hang with the cool kids.



I can't hear you over the sound of my punk rock.
Click to expand...

Hahahahaha...

"I hang with the cool kids"

Thanks for proving my point.....
 
Last edited:
Really? 56 pages of this gay=good, gay=bad? With so much going on in the country, and world, THIS is what leads the forum discussion?

Hey I enjoy a good gay=good/bad banter every once in a while, but I can't help but feel sad about 56 pages of pure nonsense.

My take is that parents will weigh the risks (if any) of enrolling their children into the Scouts, read the guidelines carefully, and then do what they must do. For me, I can't help but think to myself that young gay kids deserve to participate in whatever they would like without the adult world interfering in the process, insofar as the adult intervention is ideological, or politically motivated. If there are serious, materially harmful reasons to keep the gay=away, then put up or shut up. I've seen the arguments from both sides, and I acknowledge them as valid from both points of view, albeit somewhat complex, and difficult to assign to any one individual. For me, kids below the age of sexual awareness should be allowed to participate, but kids 12, 13, 14 should not be allowed to "bunk" with each other, JUST LIKE most parents wouldn't allow or even think to allow them to bunk with kids of the same age and opposite sex. Folks that say gay boys aren't interested in straight boys are full of ****, and serve to marginalize their contribution to the argument. Of course they are, why wouldn't they be?

I also agree that keeping gay scout masters out is also a wise cautionary move.


Tim-
 
Jredbaron96 said:
Really? What basis do you have for this claim? Sure, I think we might have a case or two, bust just how often do you think this is going to happen?
Click to expand...
The same basis you have, but at a much more honest & realistic level. I think it's going to happen a lot. It has to. Hormones are raging at that age, and now gay boys have access.

Jredbaron96 said:
It's cute when conservatives pretend to know what I believe.
Click to expand...
It's even cuter when liberals sugar coat their mendacities. ;)

Jredbaron96 said:
There are a few things premature at this point.
Click to expand...
When there shouldn't be any to begin with. What does being openly gay have to do with the Boy Scouts, anyways?
 
Dooble said:
The same basis you have,
Click to expand...

Oh?

but at a much more honest & realistic level.
Click to expand...

Yeah, not so much.

I think it's going to happen a lot. It has to.
Click to expand...

Because you want it to happen so you can prove some kind of a point, right?

Hormones are raging at that age, and now gay boys have access.
Click to expand...

Gay boys already have access. This has nothing to do with making a move, it's about not having to hide who you are.

It's even cuter when liberals sugar coat their mendacities. ;)
Click to expand...

I prefer Icing.

When there shouldn't be any to begin with. What does being openly gay have to do with the Boy Scouts, anyways?
Click to expand...

Not a lot, but I was told as a Scout to be tolerant of other people's differences. There was no basis for this ban.
 
Mr.Nick said:
I believe I previously stated this but I will say it again:

The BSA are just alienating troops/packs with their position here considering 70% of their packs are organized through the church.

We're now fractured in politics and that isn't enough for progressives - now we must be fractured in independent programs for children via political correctness.

Also, in what universe does sexuality have ABSOLUTELY anything to do with being a boyscout?

It has nothing to do with sexuality - yet this is an issue?

It seems the PC "gay rights" crowed is obsessed ****ING REALLY OBSESSED with sexualizing everything and everything.

Fine BSA will lose 70% of its troop membership..

Thanks for alienating yourselves gays - yet again.
Click to expand...

you have it backwards, it will be the people that refuse to participate because of this that will be alienating themselves

and yes you nailed it since sexuality has nothgin to do with the boy scouts it was the perfect move to let them in because its not an issue.

It will only be an issue to those now that make it one.
 
Jetboogieman said:
[/FONT][/COLOR]BBC News - Boy Scouts of America votes to ease ban on gay members

Good for the Scouts.

And I eagerly await the freakishly hateful statements that will inevitably come from people like the Family Research Council.[/FONT][/COLOR]
Click to expand...

Good.

But upon reading the title of the article I had the thought in my head that they let the MEMBERS vote . . . that's not what happened - but honestly - why didn't they ever bother and just leave it up to the long-term participants: the parents and scouts themselves?

It doesn't matter - but it made me wonder.
 
Mr.Nick said:
Hahahahaha...

"I hang with the cool kids"

Thanks for proving my point.....
Click to expand...

This is what a defeated man limping away from an argument with his tail between his legs looks like. You got called out for misrepresenting his argument and instead chose to take one line of his post out of context and scoff derisively at him.

You know, it's funny, I've noticed that people who use "......" every other sentence tend to be pseudo-intellectual and shallow. "Oh, yeah, kid...... I've been around the block....... You know how cool I am because I take long pauses between sentences........" It's called an "ellipsis", buddy, and you use three periods... how do you get through high school without learning that?

It's really cute how you paint yourself as this 'learned intellectual' when you admit yourself that you've submitted to being a political sheep at points in your adult life, and your thought proccess is totally illogical and self-serving. You mark any progress for LGBT youth as "sexualizing" when it's not about that-- The only ones unnecessarily harassing children about their sexuality are the people who want to exclude LGBT youth. And you honestly believe that 70% of the boy scouts will leave the organization over this, because you project your views on to the views of all Christians, which is hilarious because you seem to think all Christians are as intolerant and petty as you are.

There is no way 70% of the organization will leave. It's still a Mormon-owned organization anyway and individual scout troops have been accepting gay members for years now. You are delusional if you think this old, hardy organization will crumble just because they don't discriminate any more.
 
Last edited:
Jredbaron96 said:
Oh?



Yeah, not so much.



Because you want it to happen so you can prove some kind of a point, right?



Gay boys already have access. This has nothing to do with making a move, it's about not having to hide who you are.



I prefer Icing.



Not a lot, but I was told as a Scout to be tolerant of other people's differences. There was no basis for this ban.
Click to expand...
1. yeah 2. uh-uh 3. sounds more like the pettiness of liberalism, to me. 4. openly gay boys didn't have access at campsites ..... until now. 5. you prefer any coating, actually.
 
Dooble said:
3. sounds more like the pettiness of liberalism, to me.
Click to expand...

I bet it does.


4. openly gay boys didn't have access at campsites ..... until now
Click to expand...

What? There were gay boys in the BSA before, just in the closet. If they were that desperate, you think the policy would've stopped them?
 
But 'getting access to each other' is exactly what is going to happen, as anyone with a brain should understand.
Click to expand...
JUST LIKE most parents wouldn't allow or even think to allow them to bunk with kids of the same age and opposite sex.
Click to expand...

How about to sleep over with friends?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom