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Boy Scouts vote to welcome gay members

Why is this so damned hard to understand? Pretty much everybody would agree that you don't put prepubescent boys and girls together in the same tent and you damned sure don't do it when they're teens. You also don't send some adult male off into the wilderness all alone with a group of girls. That's pretty easy to understand but for some weird reason that same common sense shouldn't apply to homosexuals? Why the hell not!!??

The girl scouts allow men to be scout leaders and girl scouts do go camping. Although I highly doubt they are the only adult out there. If they were that would be stupid for a multitude of reasons.
 
It is your right to decide to not "mix" with whoever you want. :mrgreen:

True in some senses.....however, your individual right to choose not to mix does not extend to businesses, private or public. See....if you want to live in America, you have to abide by the Constitution. What you do as an individual with yourself is your business.
 
True in some senses.....however, your individual right to choose not to mix does not extend to businesses, private or public. See....if you want to live in America, you have to abide by the Constitution. What you do as an individual with yourself is your business.

businesses have "the right" to refuse service to anyone they wish... "no shirt, no shoes, no service" etc. however, the public also has "the right" not to spend money in those businesses.

If some dumbass is willing to alienate a sizable % of the consuming public...then they have "the right" to do so and face the consequences
 
The girl scouts allow men to be scout leaders and girl scouts do go camping. Although I highly doubt they are the only adult out there. If they were that would be stupid for a multitude of reasons.

Sure. And the Cub Scouts have Den Mothers (though I don't know so much about taking them camping). Of course at Cub Scout age there really shouldn't be anything substantial as far as sexual activity coming up.
 
businesses have "the right" to refuse service to anyone they wish... "no shirt, no shoes, no service" etc. however, the public also has "the right" not to spend money in those businesses.

If some dumbass is willing to alienate a sizable % of the consuming public...then they have "the right" to do so and face the consequences

LOL.....Wrongo......just because you post a sign doesn't mean that you can disregard the Constitution. I love it when people try to make that ridiculous claim.
 
True in some senses.....however, your individual right to choose not to mix does not extend to businesses, private or public. See....if you want to live in America, you have to abide by the Constitution. What you do as an individual with yourself is your business.

I'm not ignoring the Constitution with my argument.
 
I don't understand your point?

I think You will see it, if...

Do you get turned on when you shower with someone of the other sex?
If You say "Yes" I think You should have some problems with sex at all...
 
I'm not ignoring the Constitution with my argument.

Depends on what you are saying. If you are saying that an individual person can choose who they want to associate aka "mix" with, you are correct. However, that does not apply to businesses or associations whether public or private.
 
Like I said, my complaint is that this creates a "special" bloc in the unit.

It's a shortcut to "respect" that the other kids don't get and instead of instilling the principles by which one earns respect it shows the kids that there is always a way to cop out and get something for free that others have to earn.
Not necessarily, no.

According to whom exactly? Could you provide us with anything that would hint at gays being given preferential treatment or being spared from the criteria that the remainder of the troop is held to?
 
excuse me for being a poor country boy from Alabama. I have probably met less than 3000 people in my entire life (and a big chunk of them were in the military so the % of gays there was much lower than average). plus the % of gays in Alabama is less than half the national average (AL has the 9th lowest gay pop in the country)

taking all that into consideration, I ve most likely only met 30-40 gay people in my entire life. 30-40 over a span of 50 years is not "many, many".

so while I may not "be the norm"...that is not what was claimed. the claim was that "You have met many, many gay people, men and women, without having the faintest clue about their orientation.
EVERYONE has, WITHOUT EXCEPTION".

I don't believe a word of that

You've been in the military and you've worked as a teacher, right? That alone would bring you into contact with more than 3000 people.
 
Depends on what you are saying. If you are saying that an individual person can choose who they want to associate aka "mix" with, you are correct. However, that does not apply to businesses or associations whether public or private.

Yes, it does.
 
I saw a sign on the news - this woman was holding it, and it said "Save our boys from the homosexuals." I **** you not.
 
It doesn't apply to business

Where is that written in the amendment? Care to tell me? I seem to recall it making no such distinction.
 
It is the law.

What you recall is wrong

Nope, the Constitution makes no such distinction. I just checked and it turns out I remembered correctly.
 
You are making an argument by authority.

You lose

Lol! You're the guy that brought it up, so where is this distinction in the amendment in question? Did you find it yet?
 
Lol! You're the guy that brought it up, so where is this distinction in the amendment in question? Did you find it yet?

And you're the one who claimed it was an argument by authority

You're still losing
 
And you're the one who claimed it was an argument by authority

You're still losing

Really now. You said it doesn't apply to business and so I asked you where is this exception to the rule in the amendment and you still have not offered up where it is.
 
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