Yes, Oklahoma Truthers Think Obama Used His Anti-Scandal Weather Magic

Bronson said:

This is exactly what I'm talking about.

Global Warming has been exposed as a massive fraud and there are still insane people shrieking all over the internet that those who don't buy into the propaganda "don't know basic science"

Belief in Global Warming is a religion. It's not science.

[Global warming stopped 16 years ago, reveals Met Office report quietly released... and here is the chart to prove it | Mail Online

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You get your science from the Daily Mail? I will pray for you.

Global warmers are so cute.

We're in the same weather pattern as the 50s, with cold Pacific water and warm Atlantic waters. There were a TON of tornadoes and vicious storms in the U.S. during the 50s, and there will be until the waters shift again.

It's all cyclical, as much as you want it to be about cars you can't afford.

katsung47 said:

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I don't think Obama knows this. Presidents and politicians are puppets of the insider group. But I do believe there is weather weapon that can create hurriane and tornado by altering the humidity and temperature of the air - just create a physical weather condition for it.

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Oh, well if a shock jock said it on the radio then clearly anyone who didn't vote Democrat believes it.

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Bronson said:

This is exactly what I'm talking about.

Global Warming has been exposed as a massive fraud and there are still insane people shrieking all over the internet that those who don't buy into the propaganda "don't know basic science"

Belief in Global Warming is a religion. It's not science.

Global warming stopped 16 years ago, reveals Met Office report quietly released... and here is the chart to prove it | Mail Online

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Some people will never grasp statistics, and are therefore easily misled by them.

Deuce said:

Some people will never grasp statistics, and are therefore easily misled by them.

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Yea like blaming tornadoes on "Global Warming" that hasn't occurred in 16 years

If a stupid or crazy person disagrees with one of my political opinions, that proves that all of my political opinions are correct.

Bronson said:

Liberal Truthers thought it was Global Warming

They also blamed Hurricane Katrina on B000000000SH!'s weather machine

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I believe so. So many people saw chemtrail in sky but know nothing what it is. I allege it was spreading chemical to change the temperature of the air. That's why we saw Hurrican Katrina, Tornado in Toplin, Hurricane Sandy in New York..... Here is what I wrote after Hurricane Katrina in 2005:

355. Hurricane (4): Chemical and climate war(11/2/05)

The chemical used to create a hurricane is possibly a kind of refrigerant. When the compressed refrigerant is released in air, it gasifies quickly and sucks a lot of heat. That's how a refrigerant works. When it is used in a closed cabinet, that plane becomes a cooler of the refrigerator. This was what happened in Greece air plane.

Freon was a popular refrigerant. Several years ago, scientists said it destroyed the ozonosphere and banned it. It means Freon reacts with part element of air.

To destroy the ozonosphere takes a large quantity of Freon. I think it was the result when it was used in experiment of a covert climate war. I also believe this is why Bush rejected the Tokyo treaty. The government knew they are altering the weather deliberately.

Since climate war depends on chemical spreading, how can Feds apply it on other countries? Read the news here.

Quote, "Treat of shoulder fired missiles prompts action

By steve Johnson
Mercury News, 4/8/2004

Some federal officials hope to modify US commercial planes to fire lasers, launch flares ...... fly at night with lights dimmed to foil terrorists armed with portable missiles.

While no planes in this country have come under missile attack so far, the government wants to be prepared."

A device which launches flares also can spread chemical. And how can it avoid being spotted with a chemtrail? Fly at night. All this was in the name of anti-terrorist.

Anyhow, the proposal was denied by the House due to the high cost. Then I have heard two news.

One was in newspaper. (I didn't keep that newspaper because at first I didn't realize the real meaning behind it) It said because the fuel cost was too high, commercial airline decided to reduce the flight weight. One way was to reduce the water reserve which used to flush the toilet by half.

The other one was from a TV news. It said a family was stunned when their roof of the house was broken through by a chunk of ice. Later it was proved the ice was the toilet water of a commercial plane. It said the toilet water released by air plane encountered with a cool air and froze to an ice.

My allegation is this was an experiment when a commercial plane was reformed to spread chemical. It may also prove my allegation that the chemical was a kind of refrigerant which can freeze certain amount of water instantly.

obvious Child said:

Your post would carry more weight if you had a basic grasp of science.

You are saying that introducing more energy and heat into an environment doesn't change the environment. Effectively, you just argued that ingredients for a pie don't cook in an oven where heat is applied.

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I agree. Perhaps you should follow your own advice and actually look at the data.

iguanaman said:

You get your science from the Daily Mail? I will pray for you.

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You get your science from "planetsave.com"? I'll pray for YOU.

This is not "mainstream news".

it's a piece of **** editorial from some site I've never heard of, from some idiotic left winger, with nary a hint of logic to be found in it. i guess he's a sad panda the only news right now is horrible for leftwingers. he just doesn't want to write about Lord Obama and his nasty fascist government. sacrilege.

I'm wondering how do Alex Jones and these people who don't believe all human activity added together can't effect average climate over many years, believe that Obama can change the weather?
Just having a little self consistency once in a while would have been nice.

obvious Child said:

Your post would carry more weight if you had a basic grasp of science.

You are saying that introducing more energy and heat into an environment doesn't change the environment. Effectively, you just argued that ingredients for a pie don't cook in an oven where heat is applied.

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We're adding heat into the environment? That's a new one. Where's it going???
Scientists Baffled as Report Proves Global Warming Has Stopped | Collective-Evolution

Ain't into the climate. Facts, they trump ideology 100% of the time. AGW is politics, not science.

MrVicchio said:

We're adding heat into the environment? That's a new one. Where's it going???
Scientists Baffled as Report Proves Global Warming Has Stopped | Collective-Evolution

Ain't into the climate. Facts, they trump ideology 100% of the time. AGW is politics, not science.

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So said the nonscientist.
I'll take peer review and scientific consensus over these kind of nonsense any day. And them you guys moan and whine about how it is unfair that conservatives are called antiscience.

It's not just "Oklahoma Truthers" and not just the Alex Jones crowd, nor is it confined to any particular political persuasion - it's an old Art Bell thing. He was/is the poster boy for way out there, on the edge, conspiracy nuts. HARP has been one of his boogeymen over the last decade.

I just wish everyone would quit calling these folks Oklahoma Truthers and go with Tornado Truthers. These numbnuts don't live here. :roll:

Bad enough we have Inhofe and Coburn.... :3oops:

katsung47 said:

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I don't think Obama knows this. Presidents and politicians are puppets of the insider group. But I do believe there is weather weapon that can create hurriane and tornado by altering the humidity and temperature of the air - just create a physical weather condition for it.

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You are wrong.

President Obama (Who is not a Muslim and was not born in Kenya.) is totally aware of the fact that there are a lot of wacky people in the USA.

On both sides of the aisle.

And it looks like you just might be one of those people.

rocket88 said:

He did it with Hurricane Sandy too. Conveniently right before the election.

I think his reptilian Secret Service agent carries the weather codes.

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The GOP will never win another election as long as the Democrats control the weather.

MrVicchio said:

We're adding heat into the environment? That's a new one. Where's it going???
Scientists Baffled as Report Proves Global Warming Has Stopped | Collective-Evolution

Ain't into the climate. Facts, they trump ideology 100% of the time. AGW is politics, not science.

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Actually the problem is like any forecast it gives trends not hard data. No computer model can tell you what the high will be for April 13, 2016. One fact about 'global warning' is it sets a see saw pattern in motion.

The best example is a pot of water on the stove. As it gets hot and just starts to simmer if you add some cold water, to mimic the ice packs melting, the simmer is stopped. but the stove is still on and soon the simmer starts again and again you add cold water to mimic more of the ice pack melting. Now once you run out of ice pack there is nothing to stop the simmer and then it is up and popping!

So on the planet the hot zone that spawns hurricanes is being hit periodically with an increase of much colder Artic waters. The observable result to the casual observer is 'Where's the global warning?' but to scientists they see that once the ice pack is whittled down to a sliver of it's former size the regulator of the ocean temps will be gone.

So instead of calling it Global Warming the better tag is Climate Change.

katsung47 said:

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I don't think Obama knows this. Presidents and politicians are puppets of the insider group. But I do believe there is weather weapon that can create hurriane and tornado by altering the humidity and temperature of the air - just create a physical weather condition for it.

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I've been keeping a close watch on these wackos. Though, I'm sure the storm did distract the news media from covering the scandals. I bet they've moved on to "more important things."

rocket88 said:

He did it with Hurricane Sandy too. Conveniently right before the election.

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It was all an effort to shield Ron Paul's nomination, the elites wanted to form the Romney/Biden ticket, but backed out last minute when they figured out Obama would win /sarcasm!

notquiteright said:

Actually the problem is like any forecast it gives trends not hard data. No computer model can tell you what the high will be for April 13, 2016. One fact about 'global warning' is it sets a see saw pattern in motion.

The best example is a pot of water on the stove. As it gets hot and just starts to simmer if you add some cold water, to mimic the ice packs melting, the simmer is stopped. but the stove is still on and soon the simmer starts again and again you add cold water to mimic more of the ice pack melting. Now once you run out of ice pack there is nothing to stop the simmer and then it is up and popping!

So on the planet the hot zone that spawns hurricanes is being hit periodically with an increase of much colder Artic waters. The observable result to the casual observer is 'Where's the global warning?' but to scientists they see that once the ice pack is whittled down to a sliver of it's former size the regulator of the ocean temps will be gone.

So instead of calling it Global Warming the better tag is Climate Change.

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But that's not how it really happened, is it? It is called Climate Change because like the word "liberal", the word "Global Warming" was successfully smeared by right wing groups and as usual leftists acquiesced.

Once you average over short term temperature trends (over one or a number of years) you'll get an upward temperature trend, hence the name global warming.
Climate Change, while being a correct term to describe this phenomena, carries less information than the more scientifically precise term "global warming".

Erod said:

Global warmers are so cute.

We're in the same weather pattern as the 50s, with cold Pacific water and warm Atlantic waters. There were a TON of tornadoes and vicious storms in the U.S. during the 50s, and there will be until the waters shift again.

It's all cyclical, as much as you want it to be about cars you can't afford.

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The likeness of temperature might be similar, but are they identical? Likewise, what did the ozone layer look like in the 50's as compared to today; similarly, the ice caps and algae.

I just don't understand how people can't understand that when heat, energy and things like man-made pollution are introduced into the environment, there are changes to the environment as a result of the pressures put upon it.

Bush hates black people and New Orleans is a chocolate city according to Mayor Ray Nagin that's why Bush caused Katrina. So i heard comming from the left after Katrina. Turnabout is fare play don't you think?

SgtRock said:

Bush hates black people and New Orleans is a chocolate city according to Mayor Ray Nagin that's why Bush caused Katrina. So i heard comming from the left after Katrina. Turnabout is fare play don't you think?

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At the very least 1 person hating black people is within some degree of possibility. Ray Naggin never said Bush caused Katrina. So... what exactly are you trying to say? Weather weapons are real and Obama's the one behind them? I mean, quite a jump there champ.

SgtRock said:

Bush hates black people and New Orleans is a chocolate city according to Mayor Ray Nagin that's why Bush caused Katrina. So i heard comming from the left after Katrina. Turnabout is fare play don't you think?

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Idiots on one side excuse idiots on the other. Got it.

If Obama can control the weather, he is worse at that than he is at being President.