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French activist kills himself in Notre Dame Cathedral in gay marriage protest

The "redefining" of marriage argument is so silly on its face that it almost isn't worth pointing out that people living 150 years ago wouldn't recognize marriage 30 years ago anymore than people living in the 5th century wouldn't recognize marriages in the 19th century. To make it simpler. "Marriage" has been redefined over, and over, and over again due to societal constructs. A good book to read on how marriage has been redefined over and over would be a "A History of the Wife".

Interracial couples are demanding a special right to redefine marriage that has stood since the beginning of mankind! Such unions are unnatural! If God intended races to mix, he wouldn't have put them on separate continents! Race mixing is a socialist agenda!*

*actual arguments against interracial marriage
 
If your opinion on the subject is strong enough to kill yourself, you probably are a bigot.

Opposing gay marriage doesn't make you a bigot

]our marriage is pointless therefore it should be annulled. It's pointless because I say it is. My opinion of your marriage is very important, right?

Marriage has always meant man + woman. Not man + ? or woman + ?. Gays are not entitled to the special right of redefinng marriage to fit their specific selfish needs, especially over other interest groups who want to change the definition as it's been known since the beginning of mankind.

Gay marriage is pretend marriage. Pointless pretend marriage. It's no more valid than that girl marrying a roller coaster. Opposing it doesn't make you a bigot. Just like opposing that girl marrying a roller coaster doesn't make you a bigot. I understand emotionally you want to lash out at anyone who disagrees with your political opinions as "bigots", but that's not my problem. That's your problem.

Interracial couples are demanding a special right to redefine marriage that has stood since the beginning of mankind! Such unions are unnatural! If God intended races to mix, he wouldn't have put them on separate continents! Race mixing is a socialist agenda!*

*actual arguments against interracial marriage

Interracial couples weren't trying to redefine marriage from man + woman to man + ? or woman + ?. Are you claiming blacks are ? now? That would make you a bigot.

Comparing gay marriage to black civil rights issues is racist and offensive.
 
Marriage has always meant man + woman.

Did I miss the meeting where everybody agreed to stop recording history at the year 2000?
 
Did history stop in 2010?

Just because The Left wants to pretend marriage means something else doesn't make it so

The definitions of words matter.
 
Just because The Left wants to pretend marriage means something else doesn't make it so

That doesn't answer my question. You said "marriage has always meant man + woman." So what happened to the years 2000-2013? Did they fall into The Great Void or something? Did we all agree to stop recording history at the year 2000?
 
That doesn't answer my question. You said "marriage has always meant man + woman." So what happened to the years 2000-2013? Did they fall into The Great Void or something? Did we all agree to stop recording history at the year 2000?

What point are you trying to make here

Spit it out

you forgot the second part "....anymore than opposing civil rights for minorities makes you a bigot".

Gay Marriage is not a civil right
 
1.)Gays are not demanding "equal rights"

2.)They are demanding the special right to redefine marriage as it has been known since the beginning of mankind
3.). They are demanding that special right over any other interest group that wants to redefine marriage based upon their sexual behavior.
4.)They are demanding the special right to completely change the oldest tradition and institution in human history.
5.)Opposing that doesn't make someone a bigot.

The fact that you're laughing at this troubled soul who took his own life because he opposed your political opinion on gay marriage speaks volumes. Shame on you.

1.) false, they are going for equal rights
2.) also false and this has been proven lol
3.) marriage wont be getting redefine as SSM as exist way before we were even born lol what will happen is it will now be LEGALLY protected
4.) another lie that has been proven false, SOrry, you can acknowledge this fact or deny it but the fact remains your statement is 100% false
5.) good thing i didnt say it did, I asked you do define opposing which you totally dodged lol
6.) wrong again i think he is a loon and i still do. I havent stated my political views on SSM, i have stated what it actually is, I do laugh at your lies and ignorance posted here LOL

this time try answering the question and not making stuff up because facts are laugh at you
 
There is nothing about gay marriage that improves upon marriage

It's pointless and pretend marriage

opinion supported by zero facts
 
I hate to say it, but . . . I wish more rightwing homophobes would kill themselves in Catholic churches
 
What point are you trying to make here

What is unclear about it? You said "marriage has always been man + woman." Since marriage has been more than that at least since the year 2000, I'm wondering why you decided to eliminate the years 2000-2013 in order to make your statement.
 
You know that gray is spelled with an "a," don't you?

You've even got it wrong in your sig line. Just a friendly heads-up. :)

actually you can spell it either way and its an acceptable variant/substitute lol

so you are the only one that got anything "wrong" LMAO

would you like me to use dictionary links to prove this? no biggie though its just another thing you dont know, Just a friendly heads-up ;)
 
1.) false, they are going for equal rights
2.) also false and this has been proven lol
3.) marriage wont be getting redefine as SSM as exist way before we were even born lol what will happen is it will now be LEGALLY protected
4.) another lie that has been proven false, SOrry, you can acknowledge this fact or deny it but the fact remains your statement is 100% false
5.) good thing i didnt say it did, I asked you do define opposing which you totally dodged lol
6.) wrong again i think he is a loon and i still do. I havent stated my political views on SSM, i have stated what it actually is, I do laugh at your lies and ignorance posted here LOL

this time try answering the question and not making stuff up because facts are laugh at you

1) False. They are demanding the special right to redefine marriage over any other interest group that wants to change the definition based upon sexual behavior

2) Saying something false and following it with LOL might work in your tiny little world but it doesn't work in real life

3) Yes it will. Has never meant man + ? or woman + ?

4) Not a lie /shrug

5) You don't know what the definition of "opposition" is? LOL

Anyways it's good to see you're no longer laughing and clowning on some guy who killed himself. For any future replies to the same tired cliche strawmen feel free to reference this post. That goes for everyone. Gay Marriage isn't anymore relevant to society than a woman marrying a roller coaster.
 
Just because The Left wants to pretend marriage means something else doesn't make it so

The definitions of words matter.

Pssst: marriage is a legal institution and is whatever the law says it is. Upon until 1975 married women in most states didn't have any rights to manage marital property. Funny that.

If you want to go all mystical on us, be my guest and pary in church. The issue here is LEGAL marriage, which is something societies have to decide themselves, not religious zealots.
 
What is unclear about it? You said "marriage has always been man + woman." Since marriage has been more than that at least since the year 2000, I'm wondering why you decided to eliminate the years 2000-2013 in order to make your statement.

or world history or history or modern age of other countries also etc etc
saying marriage as always been man+woman since the beginning of mind kind is a bold face lie and will always be a failed argument.



its always fun watching somebody argue against facts, its the best entertainment around here
 
Opposing gay marriage doesn't make you a bigot



Marriage has always meant man + woman. Not man + ? or woman + ?. Gays are not entitled to the special right of redefinng marriage to fit their specific selfish needs, especially over other interest groups who want to change the definition as it's been known since the beginning of mankind.

Gay marriage is pretend marriage. Pointless pretend marriage. It's no more valid than that girl marrying a roller coaster. Opposing it doesn't make you a bigot. Just like opposing that girl marrying a roller coaster doesn't make you a bigot. I understand emotionally you want to lash out at anyone who disagrees with your political opinions as "bigots", but that's not my problem. That's your problem.



Interracial couples weren't trying to redefine marriage from man + woman to man + ? or woman + ?. Are you claiming blacks are ? now? That would make you a bigot.

Comparing gay marriage to black civil rights issues is racist and offensive.

You can keep spitting out the same rants all you like, it doesn't make them more valid. The idea that gay marriage doesn't count is your opinion, not fact. Comparing race rights to gay rights sure seems valid, because you guys are using the exact same arguments. EXACTLY THE SAME. but feel free to throw out the race card some more if it makes you feel better.

Marriage hasn't always been man + woman. Sometimes it was man + many women or man + slave or man + rape victim and then it was man + woman of the same race. Lots of things have been traditional. That doesn't make them right.

If you can't identify any measurable harm caused by legalizing same-sex marriage, on what grounds should the government of the United States ban it?
 
1) False. They are demanding the special right to redefine marriage over any other interest group that wants to change the definition based upon sexual behavior

2) Saying something false and following it with LOL might work in your tiny little world but it doesn't work in real life

3) Yes it will. Has never meant man + ? or woman + ?

4) Not a lie /shrug

5) You don't know what the definition of "opposition" is? LOL

6.)Anyways it's good to see you're no longer laughing and clowning on some guy who killed himself.
7.) For any future replies to the same tired cliche strawmen feel free to reference this post. That goes for everyone. Gay Marriage isn't anymore relevant to society than a woman marrying a roller coaster.

1.) your opinion doesnt change facts, States supreme courts disagree with your OPINION lol
2.) i agree that why i have facts on my side and you have nothing but your opinion that is false :shrug:
3.)this is another lie, history and facts prove you wrong again :laughat:
4.) yes it is a lie if you disagree by all means prove it not to be a lie lol
5.) yes i do but it could be many things

bombing a church that preforms gay marriage is opposing but so is just telling people you are against it

however i wouldnt judge them the same lol

thanks for further showing how void or logical reality you are

now if you would, answer the question. How do you define opposing, Just having the feeling you are against SSM or are you trying to fight against it and stop it?

6.) like i said in the OP, if he was mentally ill its said, if not its HILARIOUS :D
7.) yes i agree your straw men have always failed and been proven wrong by many posters with facts while you have NOTHING lol

you lose again :D
 
If only Islamic terrorists would take a lesson and not take out innocent people.
 
They have guns in France?
 
So a guy offs himself because some gays can get married.

What.
The.
****?
 
You can keep spitting out the same rants all you like, it doesn't make them more valid. The idea that gay marriage doesn't count is your opinion, not fact. Comparing race rights to gay rights sure seems valid, because you guys are using the exact same arguments. EXACTLY THE SAME. but feel free to throw out the race card some more if it makes you feel better.

Who is ranting. I'm not the one laughing and cheering some guy's suicide because he opposed a gay marriage. I'm calmly stating facts you cannot dispute. Comparing gays demanding the special right to change the definition of marriage from man + woman to man + ? or woman + ? is not even remotely comparable to the real struggle blacks have gone through in this country. Being gay is not a race. There is no scientific evidence there is a gay gene. Gay Marriage is not a civil right.

Marriage hasn't always been man + woman. Sometimes it was man + many women or man + slave or man + rape victim and then it was man + woman of the same race. Lots of things have been traditional. That doesn't make them right.

The notion that marriage = man + woman is the oldest notion of an institution in human history. Even the Spartans (who engaged in rampant homosexuality) never tried to change the definition of marriage. They revered and respected the tradition and institution because they realized it has a specific purpose for the Human Race. If gays had the same respect they would create a new institution to fit their selfish needs but we both know this has nothing to do with gays or civil rights or even marriage. The real target is the family unit.

If you can't identify any measurable harm caused by legalizing same-sex marriage, on what grounds should the government of the United States ban it?

If gays want to have a ceremony and call it marriage and have their pretend marriages like roller coaster girl more power to them. Doesn't make it real marriage however. It never will be.

We don't really know what the long term consequences are going to be to society. What we do know is that children do best when raised by their biological parents in a low conflict household. Depriving them that right to push a political agenda is wrong. Kids deserve their mom and dad.
 
So a guy offs himself because some gays can get married.

What.
The.
****?

And the far right nativist organization in France (similar to our Tea party) praises him. I hope this becomes a trend in the US.
 
I think it's a great way to make a statement and I would like to see SSM opponents commit suicide publicly. If enough of them volunteer, it will definitely have a societal impact. One or two, not so much but if thousands would do it, I bet the race toward SSM would be substantially delayed.

Vive Le France!
 
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