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Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House


so you have three :lamo

three out of more then two dozen come on you can do better then that. Your desperation is showing

how about the follow up letters? how about the letters that asked those liberal groups for their donor list, or what books they read, or what prayers they conducted. we never claimed no liberal group was investigated the problem that YOU IGNORE is the blatant targeting using conservative buzz words and then asking outrageous questions fishing for information that was illegal to ask for, Why was it that no groups with conservative leanings was aproved in the last 27 months but liberal groups where fast tracked
 
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Its called speculation it is how infractions are investigated and solved. You look for means motive and opportunity. Evidence just doesn't fall onto your lap you go out and search for it and you use means motive and opportunity to help steer you in the in the right direction, and if it steers it to Obama and his WH which motive does that is where you go with it

We shall see how they play it. Time will tell.
 
usa today:

In the 27 months that the Internal Revenue Service put a hold on all Tea Party applications for non-profit status, it approved applications from similar liberal groups, a USA TODAY review of IRS data shows.

As applications from conservative groups sat in limbo, groups with obviously liberal names were approved in as little as nine months. With names including words like "Progress" or "Progressive," these groups applied for the same tax status and were engaged in the same kinds of activities as the conservative groups.

IRS gave liberals a pass; Tea Party groups put on hold
 
so you have three :lamo

three out of more then two dozen come on you can do better then that. Your desperation is showing

how about the follow up letters? how about the letters that asked those liberal groups for their donor list, or what books they read, or what prayers they conducted. we never claimed no liberal group was investigated the problem that YOU IGNORE is the blatant targeting using conservative buzz words and then asking outrageous questions fishing for information that was illegal to ask for, Why was it that no groups with conservative leanings was aproved in the last 27 months but liberal groups where fast tracked
I am not attempting to exonerate the IRS, I am simply saying the Democrats got letters as well. As for the numbers, maybe the Right abused the 501 c(4) tax code the most. Somebody either Congress or the IRS needs to take the ambiguity out of the code so it's fair for everyone.
 

Thanks The Prof, USA Today focuses on what the problem is:

The IRS inspector general, in an audit issued Tuesday, said the agency used "inappropriate criteria that identified Tea Party and other organizations applying for tax-exempt status based upon their names or policy positions" instead of evidence of political activity. The tax exemption requires that organizations have "social welfare" as their primary purpose, but IRS officials said the rules are unclear how much political activity they can engage in.
 
LOL!

tell it obango roy malik
 
y'know, whoever dug that little kernel outta usatoday is really not much interested in the truth

i, on the other hand, am not interested in debate

save it for the personality whores

“I’m mad. It is un-American, it is wrong, and we have to make sure that this gets fixed,” Missouri’s senior senator said. “There’s a reason Lady Justice wears a blindfold in America. That is because in America, we don’t apply the law based on who you are, who you know, or what you believe. We apply the law equally.”

“We should not only fire the head of the IRS, which has occurred, but we’ve got to go down the line and find every single person who had anything to do with this and make sure that they are removed from the IRS and the word goes out that this is unacceptable,” she said. “It is un-American, it is wrong, and it cannot occur again.”

McCaskill concluded by saying many groups claim to be charities while doing political work and that it is a problem which needs to be fixed “but not in a way that highlights one belief over another.”

McCaskill Calls For Firing Of All Involved In IRS Targeting Scandal « CBS St. Louis

grow up
 
IRS Sent Same Letter to Democrats That Fed Tea Party Row - Bloomberg

Are you one of those people that goes to a Car dealership, and believes everything your told ? Including thinking youv'e all of the sudden made a AWESOME new friend who just so happens to sell cars for a living ?

Again, the IRS Illegally leaked donor list NOT from Liberal PACs, but from Conservative PACs.

So whats the ratio of Conservative to Liberal orginizations targeted by the IRS friend of Car Salesmen ?

Because ANY attempt at targeting left wing groups was done for one reason, so people like you could dishonestly claim that these PACs were targeted equally.

It's just BS low life dishonesty and mitigation, everyone of your post is defensive because the most Corrupt administration in History has devolved down into a group of disgusting scum bag politicians trying to cover their asses.

Well at least they had time to destroy the economy while targeting Conservatives and lying about Benghazi.
 
That has nothing to do with people with differing political views, it about "Tax Code Abuse By Political Groups Masquerading As ‘Social Welfare Organizations’" 501 c(4)

Ok, so who do you think specifically Schumer was referring to?
 
Are you one of those people that goes to a Car dealership, and believes everything your told ? Including thinking youv'e all of the sudden made a AWESOME new friend who just so happens to sell cars for a living ?

Again, the IRS Illegally leaked donor list NOT from Liberal PACs, but from Conservative PACs.

So whats the ratio of Conservative to Liberal orginizations targeted by the IRS friend of Car Salesmen ?

Because ANY attempt at targeting left wing groups was done for one reason, so people like you could dishonestly claim that these PACs were targeted equally.


It's just BS low life dishonesty and mitigation, everyone of your post is defensive because the most Corrupt administration in History has devolved down into a group of disgusting scum bag politicians trying to cover their asses.

Well at least they had time to destroy the economy while targeting Conservatives and lying about Benghazi.
I can speculate as well, it could mean conservative groups abuse the 501c(4) tax code more than liberal groups.do. :cool:
 
I can speculate as well, it could mean conservative groups abuse the 501c(4) tax code more than liberal groups.do. :cool:

Where is the evidence of such abuse? Do you have any?

We have truckloads of evidence that the IRS broke the law. Wanna get into a dick measuring contest??
 
I can speculate as well, it could mean conservative groups abuse the 501c(4) tax code more than liberal groups.do. :cool:

But wouldn't they have to HAVE the 501c4 status (which is the basis of this brouhaha) before they could abuse it?
 
Where is the evidence of such abuse? Do you have any?

We have truckloads of evidence that the IRS broke the law. Wanna get into a dick measuring contest??
Crossroads GPS. They spent 70-90% of their budget on electioneering. Do you really want to argue that Crossroads GPS is primarily a social welfare organization?

Also, there is no evidence that the IRS broke the law. There is evidence that a BOLO inappropriately singled out conservative groups, but there is no evidence that conservative groups were targeted. It took much more than a name to be forwarded to the special committee for further investigation.

In fact, the audit found that 4% of all applications were not given enough scrutiny, compared to 2% that were given too much. Since conservative groups made up the majority of the increase, it's fair to say that many conservative groups were incorrectly given 501(c)(4) status.
 
Ok, so who do you think specifically Schumer was referring to?

Anyone who is abusing the tax code:

Federal law defines 501(c)4 groups as groups engaged exclusively in “social welfare” activities. The IRS, however, has allowed these 501(c)4 groups to venture into political activities as long as civic and charitable work remains their “primary purpose.” This loophole has caused a number of organizations heavily engaged in political work to organize themselves as 501(c)4 groups in order to gain tax-exempt status and shield their donors from the disclosure requirements that apply to more traditional political organizations.


The senators said the IRS should close this loophole by imposing a strict, percentage-based cap on the amount of a nonprofit group’s spending that can go towards political activities. Legal experts have proposed a cutoff of 49 percent to ensure that political activities never command more than half of a group’s total spending. But the senators said even this threshold would be too high and would permit more political work than any nonprofit group should be able to perform.​
 
But wouldn't they have to HAVE the 501c4 status (which is the basis of this brouhaha) before they could abuse it?
Actually no, since you're allowed to operate as a 501(c)(4) without applying.
 
Crossroads GPS. They spent 70-90% of their budget on electioneering. Do you really want to argue that Crossroads GPS is primarily a social welfare organization?

Also, there is no evidence that the IRS broke the law. There is evidence that a BOLO inappropriately singled out conservative groups, but there is no evidence that conservative groups were targeted. It took much more than a name to be forwarded to the special committee for further investigation.

In fact, the audit found that 4% of all applications were not given enough scrutiny, compared to 2% that were given too much. Since conservative groups made up the majority of the increase, it's fair to say that many conservative groups were incorrectly given 501(c)(4) status.

Ok. You only have about 400 more to go. We'll be waiting.
 
Actually no, since you're allowed to operate as a 501(c)(4) without applying.

But, your donors can't make tax deductable donations, without you being a credentialed NFP, which will hurt your donations big time. Hence, part of the reason that Conservative NFP's were given the run-around.

It was a partisan plot to defund Conservative politicing.
 
I am not attempting to exonerate the IRS, I am simply saying the Democrats got letters as well. As for the numbers, maybe the Right abused the 501 c(4) tax code the most. Somebody either Congress or the IRS needs to take the ambiguity out of the code so it's fair for everyone.

The Right "ABUSED" the tax code, the claim here is the "IRS ABUSED" the Right. Geeeeeee how you can twist it all around. Nice try but it don't work. Yeah the IRS took full advantage of the ambiguity in the code for their own political means to crush the Right from having a voice. And to make it more political this was in run up to the election, no different than the cover up of the fully armed terrorist attack, and the capture of phone records. And the Obama administration is standing in the way of a special committee with all the powers to get to the truth. Obama and clan don't want the truth to come out because it leads directly to Obama's door.
 
Because of Repubs playing dodge-ball with our laws, we must end all tax-exempt status. Too bad what they're doing to the Country.
 
It's all the Republicans's fault...right! :roll:
 
Because of Repubs playing dodge-ball with our laws, we must end all tax-exempt status. Too bad what they're doing to the Country.

This is a GREAT idea. Didn't the President attempt to run without 'help' from these type organizations?...how'd that work out? Point being this isn't a one sided issue.
 
LOL!

very few watch msnbc

TV Ratings: Cable News Rankings Shuffle in April as MSNBC Loses Demo to HLN

you're really on your own here

but you're harmless

the obama administration knew about the illegal activity at the irs 5 months before the november election, laments the gray lady herself

seeya in committee

shulman, lerner, wolpin, all of whom tigta told

under oath

forward!

It may have been fortuitous that Rahm Emanuel moved on before the ship hit the sand. Perhaps he was smart enough to realize that you can't play Chicago politics on a national level.
 
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