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Again, not the question I asked....
Yes it is
Again, not the question I asked....
"edificational" is not a word
Yes it is
j-mac said:Just a question for sangha....Are you in favor of late term abortion? Or even "post birth"?
His question was a genuine one. After all, the fact that many women have abortions should have clued you in to the fact that their having sex was not an agreement to not have an abortion.
Way behind the cutting edge of the idiolectic coinage frontier as well, huh? Such is life.
That's a lie, and an easily provable one to boot....
I asked....
Now notice that I highlighted the pertinent part of the question for you, so that you can follow along...No where did I ask if you would have and abortion of any kind, as I believe you to be a male, and know that would be impossible. I instead asked a totally different question based on your own wording in a response to another, which was whether or not you are in favor, or support late term, and using your own words printed here for everyone to see, "post birth"....Now, I have my own guess, but rather than play your games, I will continue to ask you to answer the question asked, and not the one you want to play games with...
I know just exactly what you mean by that, its just like saying:
After all, the fact that many bank robbers rob banks should have clued you in to the fact that their having robbed banks was not at all an agreement for them to ever actually have to go to jail.
Jeesh… I mean, just how is it that one cannot see the logic/truth of that? Now common sense wise, prudent/practical wise...? Not so much...
Lefties, or useful idiots, i don't care which. I'd like to see your proof they weren't lefties. Being appointed by someone means nothing. Your ill-informed opinion is what it is.
OK, please show me where the constitution says that a ZEF is a person.
How many times do we have to go over this? You can question me, sure, but if I have already given the answer in several different ways, and you just cannot understand the answer for whatever reason, I would recommend getting someone to explain it to you. Simply put, our Constitution is silent, is mute, takes no position on a child in utero unless it is residing in one of the American parents outside the borders of the US of A.
Dunno if this will help, but I can try...
Maybe if I said it in Spanish, would that help? Nuestra Constitución no dice nada, es muda, no se pronuncia sobre un niño en el útero.
¿Entiendes?
Now, show me where our Constitution specifically excludes a child in utero from having rights... or, how about just showing me where it explicitly states that only the born have rights? Your choice. You have made both assertions previously... so take your time, but guess what? It will be forever as the Constitution does not address either...
Maybe that explains why criminals don't lock themselves up
Now...finally... there is some logic for you...good job. Same basic reasoning behind why people who create babies they don't want don't want laws against abortion, either. Those committing the crimes never really want their just punishments, never really want to take responsibility for what they have done. They all want their own form of "get out of jail free card".
Sorry, that dog don't hunt no more.
So, let me see, if a person gets into the driver's seat of a car, and knows by driving that there is a possibility of a wreck, but this same person who is driving doesn't explicitly and previously agree to this specific wreck that does, indeed, happen, then he or she is not responsible?
Where does the constitution say anything about a child in utero in one of it's American parents outside the borders of the US of A
And I have already proven that the constitution excludes the unborn from "persons".
That would make sense if abortion were a crime
But it's not, so it doesn't
Illogical and irrelevant. The situations are not comparable, because when you get into a car accident, you are responsible for the physical and financial harm that you have caused to others as a result of your negligence. You are not responsible for the care and well-being of the hypothetical beings that may or may not come into existence as a result of your decision to drive the car.
I have grown weary of all this unremitting dissembling, am no longer playing your silly game...
Partial birth abortion is not a CRIME, huh? ...bet that will come as news to many...
We have taken the first baby steps towards doing away with Roe [ even Roe is against Roe]...now we are growing stronger and certainly bolder all the time, knowing we have right on our side...makes it so easy.
Then there is the ease with which we can destroy all your old politically correct arguments, along with it discarding the unjust weight that the feminist movement wielded in our society has come to an abrupt end...so it is only a matter of time, as you can tell by your worn out and tattered old abortion anthems, a sing song mush of illogic that people are finally seeing for what it truly is... junk.
So you are saying we cannot hold the ones who created the baby responsible for that baby's care and well being, so instead we should do like those who get into an accident, hold the creators of the baby responsible for the physical and financial harm done? The premeditated murder aspect, put them on trial, hold them in prison for life or maybe even have them incur a death sentence?
Wow, how thoughtfully progressive, you are way ahead of your fellows...
I accept your surrender
There is no medical procedure called "partial birth abortion"
And abortion is legal. 100% legal.
Even if the aborted baby wanted to sue, it couldn't because it doesn't have standing.
And the state can't prosecute because abortion is legal
There is no medical procedure called "partial birth abortion"
And abortion is legal. 100% legal.
So I guess Kermit Gosnell was convicted, and will spend life in prison for something he did that was legal?
Your argument fails when you realize except in very rare cases the woman wasn't forced to get pregnant. There are consequences to personal actions/choices.