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Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

only an honest assessment of the situation

Why are you so intent on "making honest assesments of the situation " all of the sudden ?

It's not really your forte as you clearly lack even the modest amount of knowledge needed to make a accurate assesment of America's military capabillity.

The extent of your military knowledge stops right where it benefits your narrative.

You DO realize we don't use muskets and 8 pound cannon's any more don't you ?
 
The British had pulled out of the area because of the attacks on their facilities, as did the Red Cross. And despite the warnings that an attack was imminent, there was no intelligence on the area? Nothing? No advance planning? The American military were completely blindsided by a bunch of ragtag terrorists and you use that as an excuse for the loss of lives. You apparently want a military where no one gets hurt but, if they do, it's every man and woman for themselves. This high level ignorance of the situation should not be an excuse. Instead it should be the cause of more firings.

Diplomat: U.S. Special Forces told "you can't go" to Benghazi during attacks - CBS News

Yes sometimes intelligence fails, and sometimes the American military despite its best efforts is blindsided. Like 9/11/2001, no one saw that coming, not to mention the Iraq War where the US blindsided itself. To call them a bunch of "ragtag terrorists" is to grossly underestimate their intelligence and capability.

But again, for the second time I have to say this, I'm not talking about decision making going back to June or whenever there were previous warnings, I'm talking about decision making on the night of the attack alone.
 
Why are you so intent on "making honest assesments of the situation " all of the sudden ?

It's not really your forte as you clearly lack even the modest amount of knowledge needed to make a accurate assesment of America's military capabillity.

The extent of your military knowledge stops right where it benefits your narrative.

You DO realize we don't use muskets and 8 pound cannon's any more don't you ?

here you go
find out how long into the surprise assault on benghazi that the Americans were killed
now compare those few minutes with the amount of time required to mobilize an assault/extraction team and place them on site
share with us how you could have done that in the few minutes prior to the Americans being killed
impress us with your 'military knowledge'
my prediction is you will absolutely run from this challenge
 
here you go
find out how long into the surprise assault on benghazi that the Americans were killed
now compare those few minutes with the amount of time required to mobilize an assault/extraction team and place them on site
share with us how you could have done that in the few minutes prior to the Americans being killed
impress us with your 'military knowledge'
my prediction is you will absolutely run from this challenge

The two ex-SEALS were killed after seven hours of fighting. One came from Tripoli to get into the fight. I'm sure they fought on in the expectation that their brothers were coming. There's a Roland-at-the-bridge quality to this story.:cool:
 
The two ex-SEALS were killed after seven hours of fighting. One came from Tripoli to get into the fight. I'm sure they fought on in the expectation that their brothers were coming. There's a Roland-at-the-bridge quality to this story.:cool:

you are referring to the contractors
are you confused into believing they are members of the state department?
 
you are referring to the contractors
are you confused into believing they are members of the state department?

They were Americans fighting on behalf of the US government. Moreover, like all USG-affiliated personnel in Libya, they were under the authority of the US Acting Chief of Mission.:cool:
 
They were Americans fighting on behalf of the US government. Moreover, like all USG-affiliated personnel in Libya, they were under the authority of the US Acting Chief of Mission.:cool:

but they were not members of the state department
 
The two ex-SEALS were killed after seven hours of fighting. One came from Tripoli to get into the fight. I'm sure they fought on in the expectation that their brothers were coming. There's a Roland-at-the-bridge quality to this story.:cool:
I hope you are not conflating the attack on Stevens compound with the attack on the CIA compound which happened @ 2 hours later....and is located @ 1.2 miles away.

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Benghazi: The CIA “Annex” and the Main Compound | In-Extremis
 
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I hope you are not conflating the attack on Stevens compound with the attack on the CIA compound which happened @ 2 hours later....and is located @ 1.2 miles away.

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of course he is
when the facts are examined, the death of the American ambassador occurred within minutes of the surprise assault
appears they have finally recognized there was no reasonable military action which could have prevented his death
 
of course he is
when the facts are examined, the death of the American ambassador occurred within minutes of the surprise assault
appears they have finally recognized there was no reasonable military action which could have prevented his death
Agree, but just to note, Stevens received his terminal injuries within minutes, he remained "alive" for a few hours after.
 
here you go
find out how long into the surprise assault on benghazi that the Americans were killed
now compare those few minutes with the amount of time required to mobilize an assault/extraction team and place them on site
share with us how you could have done that in the few minutes prior to the Americans being killed
impress us with your 'military knowledge'
my prediction is you will absolutely run from this challenge


You can drop the pretense over the loss of American life as you mitigate the failure of Hilary Clinton's State Department that cost 4 Americans their lives.

Your'e motivation is covering up for Obama and Hillary, and since our motivation doesn't involve protecting corrupt politicians, we're able to offer up a much more legitmate, honest and likely scenario.

So as you arm chair quarter back military tactics and capabillities that you clearly know nothing about, so you can defend a person who is so corrupt and lacking basic human compassion that she would lie to the Father of the Seal who gave his life trying to do what Hillary should have done a long time ago, you also show your personal lack of integrity.

For one you fail to mention that the Consulate was attacked in JUNE, and that the Terrorist blew a 12 foot hole in the Compounds Wall. You failed to mention the numerous request for extra security that were ignored right up to 9/11.

And no, funding had nothing to do with it. Hillary left those people to die, denied any extra security, and ALLEDGEDLY had no plan in place for a rescue if the Consulate was attacked.

She had plenty of time and WARNING.

We had to listen to the pin-head Liberals drone on about Abu-Ghraib and how GW Bush was responsible because he was the Commander in Chief just to listen to them offer up one excuse after another over the loss of 4 Americans and the Cover-Up that followed it.

You hitched your wagon to a diseased horse, as did so many low information voters, and now your'e paying for it as one scandal after another defines the Democrat party.

Personally, I'm loving it and can hardly wait for the new whistle blowers who are on their way to testify about the IRS abuse and show America and the World just how truely f***d up this administration is.
 
You can drop the pretense over the loss of American life as you mitigate the failure of Hilary Clinton's State Department that cost 4 Americans their lives.
See now, I thought it was President Obama that was supposed to be Superman, but now I see it was Hillary that was supposed to be Wonder Woman.

Thanks for clearing that up.
 
See now, I thought it was President Obama that was supposed to be Superman, but now I see it was Hillary that was supposed to be Wonder Woman.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Where was Obama and what was he doing during the 7+ hour attack at the embassy and annex buildings as Americans fought and died and pleaded for back up that was never sent

They weren't asking for Superman. They were asking for a Commander in Chief
 
See now, I thought it was President Obama that was supposed to be Superman, but now I see it was Hillary that was supposed to be Wonder Woman.

Thanks for clearing that up.

We keep hearing from you people how great he is. His performance has been anything but...
 
Where was Obama and what was he doing during the 7+ hour attack at the embassy and annex buildings as Americans fought and died and pleaded for back up that was never sent

They weren't asking for Superman. They were asking for a Commander in Chief

Obama was AWOL.
 
Where was Obama and what was he doing during the 7+ hour attack at the embassy and annex buildings as Americans fought and died and pleaded for back up that was never sent

They weren't asking for Superman. They were asking for a Commander in Chief

Good evening, Bronson. :2wave:

Sadly, they got help from neither! :thumbdown:
 
Where was Obama and what was he doing during the 7+ hour attack at the embassy and annex buildings as Americans fought and died and pleaded for back up that was never sent

They weren't asking for Superman. They were asking for a Commander in Chief
He was reading "My Pet Goat" and flying around the US looking for a place to hide.
 
Where was Obama and what was he doing during the 7+ hour attack at the embassy and annex buildings as Americans fought and died and pleaded for back up that was never sent

They weren't asking for Superman. They were asking for a Commander in Chief

LMMFAO The Commander-in-Chief is NOT a battle field commander, he's a civilian who knows little about warfare. I sure don't know about low information people. :roll:
 
LMMFAO The Commander-in-Chief is NOT a battle field commander, he's a civilian who knows little about warfare. I sure don't know about low information people. :roll:

great job promoting Obama's uselessness as a CIC. You confirm that he's the chump in charge...LOL!!!

He's surrounded by hundred years of military experience. You would think he would have the intelligence to pick up that damn phone.
 
LMMFAO The Commander-in-Chief is NOT a battle field commander, he's a civilian who knows little about warfare. I sure don't know about low information people. :roll:

And the Secretary of Stare was only a former first lady, with no accomplishments apart from that.

The question then must be, why are these people holding public office? What sort of nitwits vote for them?
 
And the Secretary of Stare was only a former first lady, with no accomplishments apart from that.

The question then must be, why are these people holding public office? What sort of nitwits vote for them?

The Libbos have recieved their instructions from Chris Matthews to go full tilt with the incompetence defense.
 
The Libbos have recieved their instructions from Chris Matthews to go full tilt with the incompetence defense.

First they blamed George Bush for four years and now they finally and openly admit to their own incompetence, though we knew that all along.

Is there any way this guy can last to the end of his term?
 
LMMFAO The Commander-in-Chief is NOT a battle field commander, he's a civilian who knows little about warfare. I sure don't know about low information people. :roll:

Only the President (Commander in Chief) has cross-border authority
 
great job promoting Obama's uselessness as a CIC. You confirm that he's the chump in charge...LOL!!!

He's surrounded by hundred years of military experience. You would think he would have the intelligence to pick up that damn phone.

And the Secretary of Stare was only a former first lady, with no accomplishments apart from that.

The question then must be, why are these people holding public office? What sort of nitwits vote for them?

11 p.m. (5 p.m. ET): Just ahead of the weekly meeting with Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Chairman of Joint Chiefs Martin Dempsey, White House National Security Advisor Tom Donilon tells President Obama of the attack and the fire at the main villa. The president and those officials discuss possible responses to the situation. link
 
Is a Libbo like a ditto-head?
Matthews is a chameleon.
Clinton was elected how many times to the Senate?
Repubs have hated Hillary since she adopted the Heritage Health Plan.
We already have anti-Hillary ads.
Even Americans aren't that stupid?
 
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