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DC Turns On Obama

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The town is turning on President Obama – and this is very bad news for this White House.

Republicans have waited five years for the moment to put the screws to Obama – and they have one-third of all congressional committees on the case now. Establishment Democrats, never big fans of this president to begin with, are starting to speak out. And reporters are tripping over themselves to condemn lies, bullying and shadiness in the Obama administration.

Buy-in from all three D.C. stakeholders is an essential ingredient for a good old fashioned Washington pile-on — so get ready for bad stories and public scolding to pile-up.

Obama’s aloof mien and holier-than-thou rhetoric have left him with little reservoir of good will, even among Democrats. And the press, after years of being accused of being soft on Obama while being berated by West Wing aides on matters big and small, now has every incentive to be as ruthless as can be.

This White House’s instinctive petulance, arrogance and defensiveness have all worked together to isolate Obama at a time when he most needs a support system. “It feel like they don’t know what they’re here to do,” a former senior Obama administration official said. “When there’s no narrative, stuff like this consumes you.”

Republican outrage is predictable, maybe even manageable. Democratic outrage is not.

The dam of solid Democratic solidarity has collapsed, starting with New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd’s weekend scolding of the White House over Benghazi, then gushing with the news the Justice Department had sucked-up an absurdly broad swath of Associated Press phone records.

Democrats are privately befuddled by the White House’s flat-footed handling of this P.R. and legal mess, blaming a combination of bad timing, hubris and communications ineptitude. The most charitable defense offered up on background is that Obama staffers are scandal virgins, unaccustomed to dealing with a rabid press.

None of this is going away. Top Republicans tell us the Benghazi investigations will last at least months, and probably until the midterms of 2014 and beyond. Same for the IRS scandal - and new scrutiny of how the Obama White House clamps down on its critics. Republicans are also working up plans to use the backdrop of government incompetence and over-reach to try to further undermine implementation of the new health care law.

The long-term danger is that the political system and the public start to view the president, his motives and ideas through a more skeptical lens. The short-term danger is the press races for new details, new scandals, new expressions of indignity with each passing day. Read Tuesday morning editorial pages of every paper for a taste of things to come. Or watch a re-run of Tuesday’s “Morning Joe,” where reporters made it sound like Obama is a modern day Nixon.

““And it goes beyond even the story,” National Journal’s Ron Fournier, who covered the Clinton and Bush scandals and was once the AP Washington bureau chief, said on the show. “One common thing with Benghazi and the IRS scandal, is we’re being misled every day. We were lied to on Benghazi, on the talking points behind Benghazi, for months. We were lied to by the IRS for months and now they’re sending a clear message to our sources: Don’t embarrass the administration or we’re coming after you.”
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Behind the Curtain: D.C. turns on Obama - POLITICO.com

i haven't said a word

joust with the journolisters
 
The IRS scandal was released Friday, and it's a scandal that can easily be isolated, as any direct connection to Obama or Hillary would be hard to prove.

Right in the middle of Benghazi, it would seem it was intentional, as Obama just chose a different scandal for the media to capitalize on.

Notice their immediate attention to the IRS scandal as they continue to ignore Benghazi, a scandal that is directly attributed to Obama and Hillary. And Obama's false outrage.
 
At least they found a new scandal to latch onto. This one is much better anyway, because no one likes the IRS so associating obama with that ends up being much better for them. Still nothing on the illegal front for obama, but this will certainly make sure he doesn't get elected next time. you guys have totally stopped his chances in 2016. Congratulations you have done well, and all of that effort has been well worth this hard won victory for you.
 
Fenton said:
The IRS scandal was released Friday, and it's a scandal that can easily be isolated, as any direct connection to Obama or Hillary would be hard to prove.

Right in the middle of Benghazi, it would seem it was intentional, as Obama just chose a different scandal for the media to capitalize on.

Notice their immediate attention to the IRS scandal as they continue to ignore Benghazi, a scandal that is directly attributed to Obama and Hillary. And Obama's false outrage.
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The Nixon IRS scandal was part of his articles of impeachment even though they didn't directly tie it to him
It wasn't just Watergate that Congress was going to impeach Nixon with there was many charges some not directly tied to him. so the same can happen to Obama
 
trfjr said:
The Nixon IRS scandal was part of his articles of impeachment even though they didn't directly tie it to him
It wasn't just Watergate that Congress was going to impeach Nixon with there was many charges some not directly tied to him. so the same can happen to Obama
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Nixon was never impeached, and he was 100 times the leader Obama is. He got a raw deal IMO.

Nixon of course, had a media that wanted him gone, and that turned Republican support away from him.

Obama has a complicit media, I still think they will back him.
 
tererun said:
At least they found a new scandal to latch onto. This one is much better anyway, because no one likes the IRS so associating obama with that ends up being much better for them. Still nothing on the illegal front for obama, but this will certainly make sure he doesn't get elected next time. you guys have totally stopped his chances in 2016. Congratulations you have done well, and all of that effort has been well worth this hard won victory for you.
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We didn't find anything. Obama handed it to us on a silver platter.

How about you stop electing low lifes ? It's a thought.

If you do, at least be prepared for the inevitable, that they will eventually be outed.
 
Fenton said:
We didn't find anything. Obama handed it to us on a silver platter.

How about you stop electing low lifes ? It's a thought.

If you do, at least be prepared for the inevitable, that they will eventually be outed.
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Iran-Contra, Valerie Plame, etc...

Even if the absolute worst was true of Obama, I would say the right's performance has been underwhelming enough that nobody has to impress them.
 
Fenton said:
We didn't find anything. Obama handed it to us on a silver platter.
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Yes, Obama magically controlled the IRS to do this without any correspondence at all. I am sure that will pass for evidence. You can get up there and testify you know all about obama's psychic powers he got from the same guy who sold him the time machine he went back and forged his birth certificate and birth notifications with. About the only thing you found is that PACs should not be able to hide their donors, and they probably should also be taxed as they seem to generate a lot of money and serve no other purpose than to hide money.
Fenton said:
How about you stop electing low lifes ? It's a thought.
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How about the republican party stop running people who are much much worse.
Fenton said:
If you do, at least be prepared for the inevitable, that they will eventually be outed.
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They are called politicians for a reason. the silly part here is you think yours are honest little angels who would never do anything wrong.
 
Fenton said:
Nixon was never impeached, and he was 100 times the leader Obama is. He got a raw deal IMO.

Nixon of course, had a media that wanted him gone, and that turned Republican support away from him.

Obama has a complicit media, I still think they will back him.
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I understand he left office before the impeachment hearings, but the articles were drawn up and the IRS scandal was part of it even though they never directly tied that to him
so the same can be done to Obama
 
What's the connection between the IRS scandal and Obama? :confused:
 
Morality Games said:
Iran-Contra,
Valerie Plame, etc...

Even if the absolute worst was true of Obama, I would say the right's performance has been underwhelming enough that nobody has to impress them.
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Bwahahahahah !!!!

Valerie Plames.....oh Bull Sh**.

Your President has to focus on Benghazie, as his Sec of State lied directly to the Father of the Seal, IRS targeting Conservatives after their "apology" Friday was found to be a full on lie, and illegal wire tapping.

Hey, 4 people died and your President lied about it.

Do you care ?
 
Cardinal said:
What's the connection between the IRS scandal and Obama? :confused:[/
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First, mitigating the scandal by lying about the IRS scandal, about who was actually at fault implies that the change was made at a much higher level.

Max Baucus wrote the IRS a letter in 2010, stating they should look after these Conservative groups.

Chuck Shcumer wrote a letter in 2012, with 6 signatures from Democrats, one being Al Frankin.

This was a policy adjustment.
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Fenton said:
Cardinal said:
What's the connection between the IRS scandal and Obama? :confused:[/
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First, mitigating the scandal by lying about the IRS scandal, about who was actually at fault implies that the change was made at a much higher level.

Max Baucus wrote the IRS a letter in 2010, stating they should look after these Conservative groups.

Chuck Shcumer wrote a letter in 2012, with 6 signatures from Democrats, one being Al Frankin.

This was a policy adjustment.
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Links?
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today:

Very rarely do you hear Harry Reid call out the Obama administration, but the Democratic Senate majority leader had tough words for both the scandal-plagued Department of Justice and the Internal Revenue Service on Tuesday.

“I have trouble defending what the Justice Department did,” Reid told reporters during his weekly press availability off the Senate floor, referencing the revelation that the DOJ had secretly obtained two months worth of telephone records of Associated Press employees in 2012.

“I really believe in the First Amendment,” Reid continued. “I think it’s one of the great things we have as a country. And I don’t know who did it or why it was done. But it’s inexcusable. And there’s no way to justify it.”

The Nevada Democrat also took aim at the IRS for its acknowledgment last week that it had specifically targeted tea party and conservative groups.

“What the IRS did, of course, was inexcusable,” Reid said.

He went on to make the point that this isn’t “the first time we’ve seen this” from the IRS, specifically mentioning how liberal organizations like the NAACP and Greenpeace have been “inappropriately targeted” in the past. He criticized Republicans for not being upset at those examples.

“Where was their outrage when groups from the other side of the political spectrum were under attack?” Reid said.
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Reid slams Obama admin: I have trouble defending what the DOJ did
 
tererun said:
At least they found a new scandal to latch onto. This one is much better anyway, because no one likes the IRS so associating obama with that ends up being much better for them. Still nothing on the illegal front for obama, but this will certainly make sure he doesn't get elected next time. you guys have totally stopped his chances in 2016. Congratulations you have done well, and all of that effort has been well worth this hard won victory for you.
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Remember Tererun, it's the IRS who will be regulating Obama Care.

Why is that ?

>" Get ready for the Internal Revenue Service to play a dominant role in health care. When Obamacare takes full effect next year, the agency will enforce most of the laws involved in the reform—even deciding who gets included in the health-care mandate.

"The impact of the IRS on health-care reform is huge," said Paul Hamburger, a partner and employee benefits lawyer at Proskauer.

"Other agencies like Social Security will be checking for mistakes, but the IRS is the key enforcer," Hamburger said. "It's also going to help manage who might get health care." In its 5-4 ruling last year, the Supreme Court upheld the law's mandate that Americans have health insurance, saying that Congress can enforce the mandate under its taxing authority and through the IRS.

As a result, the agency has to administer 47 tax provisions under Obamacare. They include the right to levy a penalty against businesses and individuals who don't provide or acquire insurance. Noting that the IRS will collect the penalties, the decision labeled them a tax. "< When It Comes to Health-Care Reform, the IRS Rules

This makes this IRS targeting conservatives even scarier.

I've heard the term IRS Agents used. Even cops fear these gun packing IRS Agents.
 
tererun said:
At least they found a new scandal to latch onto. This one is much better anyway, because no one likes the IRS so associating obama with that ends up being much better for them. Still nothing on the illegal front for obama, but this will certainly make sure he doesn't get elected next time. you guys have totally stopped his chances in 2016. Congratulations you have done well, and all of that effort has been well worth this hard won victory for you.
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The Real Scandal of the IRS probe is that PACs have been abusing the **** out of the tax code and Congress won't do squat about it.
 
APACHERAT said:
Remember Tererun, it's the IRS who will be regulating Obama Care.
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i am pretty sure you just broke space time with that distortion of reality to try and turn this universe into republican fantasy land. You are not even interested in actually stopping abuses by the IRS, or by any future presidents. this is all about Obama complaints. You are completely fine with the IRS proceeding as normal with no stop to any of these policies just as long as it is not Obama doing them. You don't follow the line to legislation reigning in the IRS, you want to use this to go after obamacare.

It is just more faux outrage. This is why no one relies on the right to fix any problems. They like the problems because they helped make them. Pretending it is the other guy doesn't actually make the problems go away, but you are too busy being a right wing fanboy you do not see your heroes for what they are. You and lindsey lohan fans have something in common.
 
Fenton said:
Bwahahahahah !!!!

Valerie Plames.....oh Bull Sh**.

Your President has to focus on Benghazie, as his Sec of State lied directly to the Father of the Seal, IRS targeting Conservatives after their "apology" Friday was found to be a full on lie, and illegal wire tapping.

Hey, 4 people died and your President lied about it.

Do you care ?
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Not sure why betraying an American spy to silence their spouse's opposition to your government is a light matter when a rank-and-file member of the Administration (Scooter Libby) had to be offered up as a sacrifice to prevent the higher-ups (Bush and Cheney) from taking the fall. At least in that case something that was actually illegal happened.

My attitude toward C-Level political corruption is one of neutral acceptance. At worst there were some sleazy abuses of procedure. And the right-wing has responded with some sleazy abuses of procedure of their own.

No, as I have said before, I find it difficult to care about a political dog fight between two sides that are morally equal.
 
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obvious Child said:
The Real Scandal of the IRS probe is that PACs have been abusing the **** out of the tax code and Congress won't do squat about it.
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Congress doesn't have to when one side thinks they are doing something by attacking obama and not putting forth any legislation to stop their PAC scams, and the other side fights with them top pretend they are doing something while not putting forth any legislation to end the PAC scams. Still, until the point where popular vote is no longer the way congress is elected we cannot truly blame PACs and corporations for this happening. We have to blame a gullible populace who is buying into the fake fighting.
 
I hope no one I know ever becomes a blind cheerleader like the poster above me.

As for Nixon, there were plenty of Watergate hearings culminating in the Judicial Committee passing the Articles of Impeachment: Watergate Articles Of Impeachment

This is why Nixon resigned--because it was inevitable.
 
tererun said:
i am pretty sure you just broke space time with that distortion of reality to try and turn this universe into republican fantasy land. You are not even interested in actually stopping abuses by the IRS, or by any future presidents. this is all about Obama complaints. You are completely fine with the IRS proceeding as normal with no stop to any of these policies just as long as it is not Obama doing them. You don't follow the line to legislation reigning in the IRS, you want to use this to go after obamacare.

It is just more faux outrage. This is why no one relies on the right to fix any problems. They like the problems because they helped make them. Pretending it is the other guy doesn't actually make the problems go away, but you are too busy being a right wing fanboy you do not see your heroes for what they are. You and lindsey lohan fans have something in common.
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Good morning Tererun.

Sounds like you have never had any experience dealing with the IRS. And I seriously doubt with an IRS Agent. Those IRS Agents being the gestapo type law enforcement agents who pack a pistol and who think Miranda is a Mexican salsa.

There's more than a few good stories out there dealing with IRS Agents.

The one I like is the restaurant owner who was behind in is taxes. The IRS agents storm in the restaurant, guns drawn and ordered all of the customers to stop eating their breakfast, that those scrambled eggs they are eating now belong to the U.S. Government and to exit the building. The poor waitress watching all of this picks up a donut and takes a bite out of the donut. One of the IRS Agents confronts the waitress and threatens her with arrest because she's eating government property.

I wonder what a family of four who don't want to sign up for Obama Care because at $20,000 per year it would mean that little Mary Ann can no longer attend ballet dance school, little Billy can't participate in Pop Warner football and dad has to give up going out on the sport fishing party boats on Saturdays.

I guess if mom and dad are Democrats, the IRS will just garnish their wages. If they are Republicans IRS Agents will kick in their front door at 5:00 A.M. in the morning and confiscate the HD flat screen TV, the family's car, dads fishing rods and the coffee pot.

Does anyone know if you refuse to sign up for Obama Care, are you a felon ? If you get convicted of tax invasion your a felon and you can't exercise your Second Amendment Rights and possess any guns.
 
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