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White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

You said that you voted for bush not once but twice didn't you?Want me to dig the thread up?

Of course I did, it was Bush vs Gore and Bush vs. Kerry. Who should a conservative have voted for?
 
Benghazi is a FauxNews created "scandal" that the American people are seeing right through. The IRS scandal.....I suppose you were just as outraged when the same was being done to left-wing groups under Bush....nope? really? I'm sooooo surprised. The reality is, it isn't much of a scandal. The only one that is seriously raising concern is the AP story. I am extremely disappointed that Obama has taken the same route GWB and has decided that its ok to engage in government over-reach without probable cause and a warrant. I expected that from Bush, not from Obama....but again....where was your outrage when Bush was ordered the wiretaps of innocent US citizens without a warrant, even after the fact? Oh....there wasn't an outrage from you? Wow.....why am I not surprised?

Really? Better tell that to ABC and CBS who seem to disagree with you. I suggest you get better news on the Left Coast
 
LOL......you've said so a million times here....and that Man is your AVATAR.....LOL....you make it so easy sometimes.

Did you notice the group behind Bush in that Avatar? Have you bothered to see who our military supports. It really is hard dealing with people like you who always never let facts get in the way of what they have been told. Obama has been the exact failure we told you he would be but apparently your man crush on him has blinded your ability to do any research at all.
 
Of course I did, it was Bush vs Gore and Bush vs. Kerry. Who should a conservative have voted for?

Then using your logic you musta "idolized Bush"because you voted for him twice.Just as i idolized Obama by voting for him twice. Hhmm... maverick or the weather-vane. decisions,decisions. :roll:
 
Then using your logic you musta "idolized Bush"because you voted for him twice.Just as i idolized Obama by voting for him twice. Hhmm... maverick or the weather-vane. decisions,decisions. :roll:

Wrong, no conservative would ever vote for Obama nor would any clear thinking American which is why we got Obama.
 
Second official out at IRS as Obama appoints acting chief - Jennifer Epstein and Lauren French - POLITICO.com

As the president announced his pick to replace the Internal Revenue Service’s acting commissioner for the remainder of the fiscal year, the embattled agency announced in a Thursday statement that a second senior official would be leaving the IRS.

Joseph Grant, the commissioner of the agency’s tax exempt and government entities division, will retire on June 3. Grant oversees the division that gave extra scrutiny to conservative groups seeking nonprofit status. His resignation follows that of acting commissioner Steven Miller, who is stepping down at the request of the Obama administration.

Grant was only elevated to the division commissioner position on May 8, according to a separate agency press release. He was previously a deputy director.

As division commissioner, he outranked Lois Lerner, the IRS official who sparked the scandal last week by acknowledging that the agency wrongly targeted conservative groups applying for nonprofit status. He wrote the agency’s official response to an inspector general report released earlier this week which broadly condemned the agency’s management.

He acknowledged that the program was a mistake but insisted it wasn’t the result of political bias among agency employees.

“We believe the front-line career employees that made the decisions acted out of a desire for efficiency and not out of any political or partisan viewpoint,” he wrote in the agency’s response to the inspector general’s report.

promoted 8 days ago, fired today?

and you're STILL not embarrassed?

that's ok, we've got plenty of time...
 
Wrong, no conservative would ever vote for Obama nor would any clear thinking American which is why we got Obama.


51.1% of the population weren't "clear thinking Americans "eh? You're a real hoot con.:mrgreen:
 
51.1% of the population weren't "clear thinking Americans "eh? You're a real hoot con.:mrgreen:

How's that choice working out for the country? Oh, I forgot, results don't matter to an Obama supporter
 
Nope.....wrong again.

George W. Bush

After 7 years his approval rating has finally climbed up to the 47% that you think is so poor for Obama. And that coincided with the opening of his library when he was getting a lot of favorable press.

Lets see.....now I expect to see a reply from you saying how great the 47% is for GWB and how horrible a 47% is for Obama....because we all know that that's how you roll.....ROTFLMAO.....

Your'e easily entertained and any criticism thrown at Bush during his tenure was based on empty left wing narratives and BS talking points.

You guys cried and bitched about his lies and then you elected a LIAR.

You guys cried and whined about his incompetence, and then elected a INCOMPETENT.

So spare us your'e irrational assertions and your Obama mitigation. For all of the Bush blame and tired talking points you guys bring up your'e in the same breadth hypocritically defending a guy who is 10 times worse.
 
51.1% of the population weren't "clear thinking Americans "eh? You're a real hoot con.:mrgreen:

No, no they were NOT "clear thinking" voters, who after 4 years of economic destruction, massive structural debt and a Central Bank stuck on QE just to keep BO's new debt cheap first believed the left wing " Bane " talking points and second weren't intelligent enough to objectively research their Candidate.

Hell yes they were full on morons, as we are currently paying for their intellectual limitations and laziness.
 
No, no they were NOT "clear thinking" voters, who after 4 years of economic destruction, massive structural debt and a Central Bank stuck on QE just to keep BO's new debt cheap first believed the left wing " Bane " talking points and second weren't intelligent enough to objectively research their Candidate.

Hell yes they were full on morons, as we are currently paying for their intellectual limitations and laziness.


Or maybe the Right just fails to appreciate what a smashing success it has been in the South because to acknowledge that success would be to also acknowledge that it has become, essentially, a regional party.......................
 
51.1% of the population weren't "clear thinking Americans "eh? You're a real hoot con.:mrgreen:

No only 4% were not clear thinking the other 47% were just looking out for their selfish personal interest
 
My stocks have done pretty well lately.Hows yours doing?

Seriously ?

Your'e attributing the stock markets rise due to record low interest rates that are being kept low with perpetual Central Bank QE to Obama's "success " ?

Do you even know what your'e talking about ? As Wall Street get's rich and the middle class shrinks to record lows as more and more people are becoming dependent on the Government.

The FED is PAYING BANKS INTEREST ON THEIR RECORD RESERVES to influence short term interest rates. To keep interest rates next to nothing as now banks get to keep our money for free and get paid to hold massive amounts of liquidity that they ARE REQUIRED BY LAW TO HOLD.

Barrack Obama, paying banks.....to be a bank since 2008.

Your post are typical of the left wing around here. Short on substance and understanding as only the perpetually uninformed could now be bragging about the Stock Markets rise.

Hey, if Bernanke stops QE tomorrow , Monday would be one of the largest sell off's of bonds and assets we've ever experienced in this country. That would be followed by a acute rise in interest rates as our bonds would be all but worthless.

Obama's Central Bank appointee is in the middle of one of the most destructive monetary policies in History. You have no idea how sick our economy has to be to justify perpetual bottom of the barrel interest rates.

Oh, but your'e bragging ? LOL !
 
No, no they were NOT "clear thinking" voters, who after 4 years of economic destruction

Hhmmm...went from loosing 750 k per month to gaining jobs.And you think that they weren't clear thinking?Says something about your thought process IMO.:2wave:
 
Hhmmm...went from loosing 750 k per month to gaining jobs.And you think that they weren't clear thinking?Says something about your thought process IMO.:2wave:

If we had as many in the work force as we did when Obama took office unemployment would be over 9%
the 150k or less jobs created each month doesn't even cover population growth. we almost have as much go on disability each month
 
Yes the founding fathers warned you about corrupt and tyrannical governments.

People who set up a government that didn't allow blacks, women and the poor to vote.

Yes, but the Republican Party fought for the right's of Blacks, literally, with the Democrats (who continue their racism to this day) fighting every inch of the way. And of course it was a Republican governor who first gave women the right to vote.
 
Maybe I was wrong. With Benghazi going the way it is and this AP scandal, not to mention Holder is still left as Atty General after all his fark-ups - maybe we will see impeachment hearings.

All of these scandals have put Fast and Furious on the back-burner as well.
 
Hhmmm...went from loosing 750 k per month to gaining jobs.And you think that they weren't clear thinking?Says something about your thought process IMO.:2wave:

Wow, your'e thoroughly corrupted with left wing talking points and their BS narratives.

It's been 4.5 years, with an extra 7 TRILLION in structural debt and as you Obama supporters claim " job increases" you conveniently ignore the nearly 10 million jobs that have disappeared out of the work force all together.

Obama adding jobs ? Only if you purposely ignore the millions who have been chronically unemployed because the stupidest of our electorate have chosen our path.

Poverty is up to 1 in 6 after 4 and a half years. Child poverty is 1 in 5 now. 20 million more people are on food stamp assistance and disability roles have doubled under Obama.

But that's the best you've got huh ? Your'e selective application of job numbers ? Your cherry picking of the facts as more and more businesses are doing more with less because a gaggle of corrupt Congressmen passed a law that mandates arbitrary rising increases in cost.

There was nothing for any objective voter with more than 9 brain cells to point to when he walked into that voting booth ( 7 times if your'e a democrat ) and pulled the lever in favor of re-electing Obama. Just the lame desperate motto of his 2012 re-election campaign " Osama's dead, GM lives. " ( BO got to Obama because of Bush's enhanced interrogation techniques and GM still owes the American tax payer billions.

I mean your'e a great example of your typical Obama voter. Short on substance and factual data and long on rhetoric and empty talking points.
 
QUOTE Fenton;

Seriously ?

Yes

Your'e attributing the stock markets rise due to record low interest rates that are being kept low with perpetual Central Bank QE to Obama's "success " ?

Where did you get this from my two sentence post?

Do you even know what your'e talking about ?

Yes. I bought low and had the good fortune to beat the S&P by about 39%.



As Wall Street get's rich and the middle class shrinks to record lows as more and more people are becoming dependent on the Government.

Ya got all of that from me two sentence post eh?Whatca smoking?

The FED is PAYING BANKS INTEREST ON THEIR RECORD RESERVES to influence short term interest rates. To keep interest rates next to nothing as now banks get to keep our money for free and get paid to hold massive amounts of liquidity that they ARE REQUIRED BY LAW TO HOLD.

Man yer onna a ****ing roll arnt ya?

Barrack Obama, paying banks.....to be a bank since 2008.

Yep...started by dubya


Oh, but your'e bragging ? LOL

stating facts isn't bragging. sayen that i bought a brand new auto with the last dividend check...that would be braggin.So i wont be sayen that.:thumbs:

Now take a few more hits on yer bong and get back to me.
 
Or maybe the Right just fails to appreciate what a smashing success it has been in the South because to acknowledge that success would be to also acknowledge that it has become, essentially, a regional party.......................

"The South " which I consider to be States like Florida and Texas and Louisiana are a "smashing success" now because they applied Conservative economic principles when the North was pushing failed Liberal policies that have bankrupted States and cities.

Texas has a Republican House, it incentive's the free market, private enterprise and private sector growth. We have no state income tax, and do our best to make sure companies that are based here or want to move here are not covered up with bureaucratic red tape and draconian regulations.

Texas is proof that Obama's ideology and his corrupt world view are a contradiction to economic growth. We're a thorn in his side as our economy grows and our Government is kept small.

We incentivize private investment, entrepreneurship and that has a direct effect on employment and on peoples sense of security as more and more people from Michigan and California and other Blue Liberal Plague States move here for a new beginning as all of the fainting and hero worship during Obama's run up to the Presidency didn't equate to a better life for those people.

It's because Obama was a empty suite, a media creation who had no business taking that oath of office because he wasn't qualified. We warned you folks and now his lack of qualifications is more than apparent as millions suufer under a extended recession that has NOTHING to do with GW Bush.
 

It was rhetorical. Your'e a Obama supporter, of-course your'e going to celebrate the DOWs rise without any idea of the consequence of Bernake's actions. Short term, or long term



Where did you get this from my two sentence post?

You need to be educated apparently. Say thank you.



Yes. I bought low and had the good fortune to beat the S&P by about 39%.

Good for you,....Actually, enjoy it while you can as the banks are holding trillions in reserves. One day, when we get a real President we will be forced to reconcile with the 8 years of incompetence people like you have subjected this country to. The fundamentals of FIAT currency will return as all of the liquidity will need to come back.

That's usually accomplished with rising interest rates, which is a "recovery killer" and a market killer. I realize the left claims there is no inflation, but you realize the CPI doesn't give any weight to food and fuel which are continuing to rise.

As long as you get yours f*** all of the American Families that are struggling to make ends meet because a bunch of Democrats voted in the most destructive law in US history.


I don't remember Obama stating that was one of his goals in 2008. To falsely inflate asset and bond and equity values with massive amounts of printed currency and let his Central Bank appointee monetize nearly 70% of our debt so he could continue to borrow cheap, to support a growing dependent class. And to give a boost to Wall Street while the middle class shrunk down to nothing.





Ya got all of that from me two sentence post eh?Whatca smoking?

I'm " high " but your'e the one bragging about a market being held up with printed money ? Nice. So your'e natural lucid state is three sheets to the wind, good.



Man yer onna a ****ing roll arnt ya?

Someone has to educate the masses of intellectually lazy Americans who American Idol-ed a President into power because the media " told them to".



Yep...started by dubya

Lol...it was put into place in October 2008, a month before you folks got all caught up in platitudes and bumper stickers and elected the most dishonest President to ever set foot into the oval office. It was NEVER supposed to last 5 years, 7 years, 8 years.

Kinda like you guys claiming Obama's "lowering the deficit" when all he did was add another 400 billion plus to GW Bush's 2009 budget through Omnibus, passed a stimulus bill that stimulated nothing but Govt debt as Obama set off on his " BRILLIANT " economic platform of green jobs......honesty it was like a bad 6th grade science project.

He would build the manufacturing base...stupidly because no oversight was given to the Chinese inevitably under cutting prices on photo voltaic panels...FIRST, before there was the demand to support it. He spewed typical left wing rhetoric about Bane sending jobs overseas and then turned around and gave a Dutch car company 500 million in loan guarantee to build a car no one wanted in....Finland. ( Oh they actually received 192 million of the 500 million )

After adding " one time, emergency spending " to the 2009 budget and then blaming the entire budget on Bush Obama just continued to spend that " one time . emergency spending " amount and added a cool trillion to Bush's annual budget average of 2.5 trillion for 4 consecutive years.

So he raised the bar, and then claimed " deficit reduction " Lol



stating facts isn't bragging. sayen that i bought a brand new auto with the last dividend check...that would be braggin.So i wont be sayen that.:thumbs:

Now take a few more hits on yer bong and get back to me.

Your'e using the stock markets rise to justify Obama's presidency when all he's doing entering in the self destruct code on the Star-ship Enterprise and I have yet to see anything factual from you. No, a marginal understanding of how our monetary system applies to our Financial markets does not equate to a factual statement.

Until you understand what's actually behind the DOWs rocketing numbers your public celebrations will continue to be looked on with amusement and pity.

Tax's on Dividends are going up, It's in Obama Care, plus a almost 10% rise on Capital Gains taxes. Hell, even Clinton had the common sense to lower Capital Gains taxes.
 
QUOTE Fenton

Your'e a Obama supporter, of-course your'e going to celebrate the DOWs rise without any idea of the consequence of Bernake's actions. Short term, or long term

So only Obama supporters are celebrating the DOWS rise to record breaking heights?OK. :roll:



You need to be educated apparently. Say thank you.

Whens the education going to start?



Good for you,....Actually, enjoy it while you can as the banks are holding trillions in reserves.

Will do.:2wave:

That's usually accomplished with rising interest rates, which is a "recovery killer" and a market killer. I realize the left claims there is no inflation, but you realize the CPI doesn't give any weight to food and fuel which are continuing to rise.

Hhmm...what was the interest rates during the Clinton ara?You know.The time when we had a balanced budget and a 39% tax rate.


As long as you get yours f*** all of the American Families that are struggling to make ends meet because a bunch of Democrats voted in the most destructive law in US history.

You must be looking in a mirror when you state this bull****.


I don't remember Obama stating that was one of his goals in 2008. To falsely inflate asset and bond and equity values with massive amounts of printed currency and let his Central Bank appointee monetize nearly 70% of our debt so he could continue to borrow cheap, to support a growing dependent class. And to give a boost to Wall Street while the middle class shrunk down to nothing.


You got it backwards. BO is attempting to help the middle-class but obstructionist in the house is preventing him from implementing anything, as per the 37th attempt at overthrowing the law of the land(BO care) yesterday.



I'm " high " but your'e the one bragging about a market being held up with printed money ? Nice.

Company's having record profits is hardly being held up with...printed money???Bragging?where did i brag?


Someone has to educate the masses of intellectually lazy Americans who American Idol-ed a President into power because the media " told them to".

SSsssooo...tell me how the media managed to throw an election BO,s way.



Kinda like you guys claiming Obama's "lowering the deficit" when all he did was add another 400 billion plus to GW Bush's 2009 budget through Omnibus, passed a stimulus bill that stimulated nothing but Govt debt as Obama set off on his " BRILLIANT " economic platform of green jobs......honesty it was like a bad 6th grade science project.

According to the CBO, the deficit in 2013 is lower than in 09, when BO took office. The deficit will be 5.3 percent of GDP this year,almost half the 10.1 percent of GDP in 09.:2wave:
 
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