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Who started the so-called "personal cell phone"(also known as the lifeline program) policy?


I've got a feeling we're about to blame Bush for this.

Is that where you're headed with this?
 
Who started the so-called "personal cell phone"(also known as the lifeline program) policy?

I know during the Reagan administration there were no cell phones. They had these big mobile radio phones that millionaires could only afford.

The original life line phones were land line phones and were required to be rotary dial phones so they couldn't be used to contact your local drug dealer's pager. Oh yeah, no toll calls were allowed.
 
I know during the Reagan administration there were no cell phones. They had these big mobile radio phones that millionaires could only afford.

The original life line phones were land line phones and were required to be rotary dial phones so they couldn't be used to contact your local drug dealer's pager. Oh yeah, no toll calls were allowed.

Yet the Obamaphone germ was planted during the gippers REIGN.Shocking.:shock:
 
I asked you a question about what you would have supported and didn't get an answer. Bush took office on January 21, 2001 and 9/11 happened how many months later. Need help with math? I suggest that you stop buying the liberal talking points and answer direct questions as well as read the 9/11 report. Like all liberals you prefer believing what you are told vs. doing any research.

LOL....once again...typical conservative hypocrisy. Point the finger of blame all the while rationalizing your hero's failures and failure to take responsibility for anything. You are sooooo predictable that it is kind of funny.
 
Yet the Obamaphone germ was planted during the gippers REIGN.Shocking.:shock:

We've had this argument 500 times. You'll never get a Republican to admit that.
 
We've had this argument 500 times. You'll never get a Republican to admit that.

SADLY the truth rolls off the backs of most of whom call themselves republicans these days.
 
Yet the Obamaphone germ was planted during the gippers REIGN.Shocking.:shock:

Not really shocking. At the time there were millions of retired elderly who were living on fixed incomes who were being taxed (property taxes) and couldn't make ends meet. They couldn't afford even paying for a phone in their homes so they could have access to make an emergency phone call for paramedics, fire or police.

The original intentions were morally right. It was during the Clinton administration when the abuse began and was expanded so those druggies in the inner cities could have a free phone so they would have more money to spend on crack and that 40 ouncer.

Before Obama is forced to resign or is impeached and convicted, I wonder if we'll see free Obama broadband internet service. And I'm sure we'll soon see Obama lap tops and Obama smart phones.
 
Yet the Obamaphone germ was planted during the gippers REIGN.Shocking.:shock:

Using your logic, any murder committed using a gun isn't the murderer's fault, it's the guy who invented the gun in China centuries ago because that's where it started.

Is there any reason why a liberal wants a Democrat President in the Oval Office when he/she apparently hasn't any direct impact on what goes on there and is at the mercy of whatever Republican President was in the office previously? Why not just leave it to those who accept responsibility and know how to use it?
 
LOL....once again...typical conservative hypocrisy. Point the finger of blame all the while rationalizing your hero's failures and failure to take responsibility for anything. You are sooooo predictable that it is kind of funny.

And just like an Obama supporter always placing blame on someone else for his failures. Again, keep ignoring the facts while buying the lies. Where are the impeachment charges against Bush? Why aren't there any? When faced with the Obama failures you divert. Typical liberalism
 
LOL....once again...typical conservative hypocrisy. Point the finger of blame all the while rationalizing your hero's failures and failure to take responsibility for anything. You are sooooo predictable that it is kind of funny.

Disneydude, have you ever read the 9/11 Commission Report ? You are aware of Attorney General Janet Reno's "Wall" where it was illegal for the CIA, NSA and military intelligence to share information with the FBI, USMS, U.S. Customs and INS and other state, county and local law enforcement which resulted in not being able to connect the dots ?

The 9/11 Commission also found that it was political correctness that allowed the Al Qaeda terrorist to board those planes on that morning on 9-11-01.

You are aware that it was the Clinton administration who said Al Qaeda was not a national security issue but a law enforcement issue ?

Going back to the Carter administration, but actually the Democrats in Congress who castrated the CIA so they couldn't do their job and protect America.

You do know why President Clinton refused to allow the CIA and U.S. military to take out Bin Laden when they had him in their sights ?

And if you ever read Osama bin Laden's declaration of war on America, Bin Laden's first Fatwa (1996) you would see where OBL looked upon Clinton as a pantywaist and believed America was a paper tiger and could get away with attacking America on it's own soil. Unfortunately for Bin Laden, Bush was POTUS on 9-11-01 and Bush was no pantywaist.

BTW: Did you see Panetta over the weekend on CNN's "Fareed Zakaria 360" where he said he believes that it was the information that was gathered by using enhance interrogation during the Bush administration that led to finding Osama bin Laden and taking Bin Laden out ?
 
Yet the Obamaphone germ was planted during the gippers REIGN.Shocking.:shock:

It was actually a working system that benefited the elderly and other very poor people, many of them even disabled. Sensible.

It went from that to THIS under your God King Oblamo

Millions Improperly Claimed U.S. Phone Subsidies - WSJ.com

The U.S. government spent about $2.2 billion last year to provide phones to low-income Americans, but a Wall Street Journal review of the program shows that a large number of those who received the phones haven't proved they are eligible to receive them.

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Some of these Obamaphones were even being used by drug dealers because they couldn't be traced. We've went over this before last month. The Reagan whining is a pathetic and laughable false premise. It's not Reagan's fault Obama expanded the program so ridiculously without any proper oversight, but then again it's just par for the course. To emotional libs, every Obama failure is someone else's fault.
 
You can't possibly believe that Romney would be less effective in the Presidency than Obama has proven to be? Clearly, Romney's track record of working with Democrats in Massachussetts belies that. And you can't possibly believe that Romney would be less effective in improving the economic environment in the US - that's just not credible. Even if I assume you're correct when you equate Romney and Obama as being two sides of the same coin, just the two areas mentioned above would be strong determinates in a Romney Presidency over a reelection of Obama.

CJ, it depends on which Romney you are talking about. The one who came up with Romney care, pretty socially liberal and worked with Democrats to get things done or the one after he did his 180 degree turn in order to run for president on the Republican ticket. The thing with Romney, even among his own party members, they weren't sure which one they would get. So working with Democrats is pretty irrelevant after Romney did his 180.

On the economy, who knows. He never really laid anything out as to a plan. In fact he never laid out a vision for the next 4 years to give the voters a reason to vote for him. You the economy is in such and such a state under Obama, it would have been better under Romney. But Romney never said what he would to to compare the two with. I pointed a lot of this out when we were on politico.
 
bret baier just interviewed james rosen, special report...

we're all waiting for obama's announcement 6 pm eastern, he's 19 minutes late right now

did you know the white house surrendered the talking points email chain today, 94 pages of correspondence...

rosen just read to us (i'm paraphrasing):

at 7:16 and 7:23 pm on the friday nite before susan-rice-sunday, victoria nuland emailed the need to "soften" language about "perpetrators"

such language "could come back to us at the podium"

that's very bad---changing the truth for political reasons

after a conversation with [name redacted], i have serious concerns

at 11:17 the next morning, ben rhodes and tommy vietor were more active

the language, "islamic extremists with ties to al qaeda" was still part of the talking points at that time

that afternoon, an email from cia: "state dept had major reservations and we revised with their concerns in mind"

the white house has adamantly insisted the opposite

***
obama just fired miller
 
bret baier just interviewed james rosen, special report...

we're all waiting for obama's announcement 6 pm eastern, he's 19 minutes late right now

did you know the white house surrendered the talking points email chain today, 94 pages of correspondence...

rosen just read to us (i'm paraphrasing):

at 7:16 and 7:23 pm on the friday nite before susan-rice-sunday, victoria nuland emailed the need to "soften" language about "perpetrators"

such language "could come back to us at the podium"

that's very bad---changing the truth for political reasons

after a conversation with [name redacted], i have serious concerns

at 11:17 the next morning, ben rhodes and tommy vietor were more active

the language, "islamic extremists with ties to al qaeda" was still part of the talking points at that time

that afternoon, an email from cia: "state dept had major reservations and we revised with their concerns in mind"

the white house has adamantly insisted the opposite

***
obama just fired miller



Is that Breaking Now, Prof?
 
Not really shocking. At the time there were millions of retired elderly who were living on fixed incomes who were being taxed (property taxes) and couldn't make ends meet. They couldn't afford even paying for a phone in their homes so they could have access to make an emergency phone call for paramedics, fire or police.

The original intentions were morally right. It was during the Clinton administration when the abuse began and was expanded so those druggies in the inner cities could have a free phone so they would have more money to spend on crack and that 40 ouncer.

Before Obama is forced to resign or is impeached and convicted, I wonder if we'll see free Obama broadband internet service. And I'm sure we'll soon see Obama lap tops and Obama smart phones.

Then you’re admitting that my scenario was right when I stated that the germ for the Obamaphone was planted by the gipper in 1984? Thanks.:thumbs:
 
It was actually a working system that benefited the elderly and other very poor people, many of them even disabled. Sensible.

It went from that to THIS under your God King Oblamo

Millions Improperly Claimed U.S. Phone Subsidies - WSJ.com



obama-phone.jpg


Some of these Obamaphones were even being used by drug dealers because they couldn't be traced. We've went over this before last month. The Reagan whining is a pathetic and laughable false premise. It's not Reagan's fault Obama expanded the program so ridiculously without any proper oversight, but then again it's just par for the course. To emotional libs, every Obama failure is someone else's fault.

Yep...the gipper got something right when he planted the seed for the free ObamaPhone.:2wave:
 
Is that breaking

yes, it broke, the only source (that's why it took me 15:00 to post, i tried to find a usable link) is...

breitbart

LOL!

i could try again

Obama: Acting IRS chief Steven Miller resigns - Jennifer Epstein - POLITICO.com

thanks

politico, in addition, has unearthed a kernel:

The IRS has begun defending some of its senior leadership, releasing a statement Wednesday saying that its chief counsel, William Wilkins, was not among those who participated in a meeting of agency employees to discuss the targeting of conservative groups. The inspector general’s report suggested that a “chief counsel” had been at an Aug. 4, 2011, meeting on the issue, but the IRS said that the lawyers who attended were actually “several layers below Wilkins.”

and the journolisters, in addition, aren't giving this most corrupt president since nixon much of a break

Though a draft of the report had been floating around Washington for days, Obama waited until the official release on Tuesday night to offer an unqualified condemnation, calling the agency’s behavior “intolerable and inexcusable.” In remarks at a press conference on Monday, Obama had qualified his assessment with the conditional “if” news reports on the findings were true. White House press secretary Jay Carney offered the same skepticism in his comments earlier this week.

he looked awful---furious, petulant, at times on the verge of tears

but he's mad at the wrong people and for all the wrong reasons

and it shows

it really does look like he's lost the beltway, lost the press

usatoday: irs gives libs a pass

IRS gave liberals a pass; Tea Party groups put on hold

the most populist paper on the planet scoops: ALL tea party apps were PUT ON HOLD---not delayed, but PUT ON HOLD---for 27 months by this CRIMINAL irs

the talking points, tho, those 94 pages of emails---i think i can tell you, there's an awful lot of smoke coming out of em

stay tuned
 
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yes, it broke, the only source (that's why it took me 15:00 to post, i tried to find a usable link) is...

breitbart

LOL!

i could try again

Obama: Acting IRS chief Steven Miller resigns - Jennifer Epstein - POLITICO.com

thanks

politico, in addition, has unearthed a kernel:



and the journolisters, in addition, aren't giving this most corrupt president since nixon much of a break



Obama: Acting IRS chief Steven Miller resigns - Jennifer Epstein - POLITICO.com

he looked awful---furious, petulant, at times on the verge of tears

but he's mad at the wrong people and for the wrong reasons

and it shows

it really does look like he's lost the beltway, lost the press

usatoday: irs gives libs a pass

IRS gave liberals a pass; Tea Party groups put on hold

the most populist paper on the planet scoops: ALL tea party apps were PUT ON HOLD---not delayed, but PUT ON HOLD---for 27 months by this CRIMINAL irs

the talking points, tho, those 94 pages of emails---i think i can tell you, there's an awful lot of smoke coming out of em

stay tuned

Yeah, I just saw the ones on Nuland and Benghazi and what she said. Especially some comment about going to the podium. I figured she is going to take the Hit on the Emails.
 
Then you’re admitting that my scenario was right when I stated that the germ for the Obamaphone was planted by the gipper in 1984? Thanks.:thumbs:

Nope, it wasn't Reagan's idea. Reagan was known for compromising with the opposition, that's sign of good leadership. Unless it had any thing to do with national defense and winning the Cold War then there was no compromising. America first.
 
Yep...the gipper got something right when he planted the seed for the free ObamaPhone.:2wave:

Dodge noted

Not only are you failing desperately to make the connection, you're also laughably defending an out of control Government Program that has grown in size by 1500 times since Obama took office. This is why people like you have no credibility. You always make the case that Government Programs such as these are needed to help the poor and disabled, yet never criticize or want to reign in these programs when they go laughably over budget, have no oversight, and get out of control.

Your Obama worship is overriding your ability to use logic and reason. Par for the course.

Director of IRS Tax-Exempt Determinations Office is Obama Donor | National Review Online
 
LOL....you are missing the point. Why are you dodging and so afraid to talk
about your hypocrisy? Is it because your "feigned outrage" is being exposed?

As for your questions: I am as outraged at the Obama administration surveilling citizens and the AP just as I was with the Bush administration.
I am as outraged that Obama has not closed Gitmo and is continuing in the same vein as Bush in that arena.

I am not as outraged at Obama as I am at Bush for his handling of Iraq/Afghanistan. Obama didn't manipulate the public fear and start a war with a country that didn't attack us. Obama finished the job that your hero couldn't.

The better question is: Why do you continue to give GWB a pass while you feign outrage at Obama?


If you understood the run up to the Iraq war instead of repeating left wing talking points, if you realized that numerous Democrats in 1998 admitted to Saddam Hussein's chemical and biological weapon stock piles maybe you would understand the Conservative position.

Instead of calling us Hypocrites and using left wing debunked talking points to do it, realize we warned you guys about Obama's true character.

Maybe if you guys hadn't bought in to the media's Production of " Barrack Obama, Americas first black super president ", and had actually vetted him, we wouldn't be here listening to you mitigate his coruption by repeating tired rehashed talking points.

Funny your'e ok with Benghazi, still the worst of these three scandals by far.
 
Nope, it wasn't Reagan's idea. Reagan was known for compromising with the opposition, that's sign of good leadership. Unless it had any thing to do with national defense and winning the Cold War then there was no compromising. America first.

BBbuttt…:shock:you said in post#207the following” The original intentions were morally right. “That begs the question. Whose “original intentions were morally right “?:2wave:
 
BBbuttt…:shock:you said in post#207the following” The original intentions were morally right. “That begs the question. Whose “original intentions were morally right “?:2wave:

I think we have crossed the line of thread drifting.

Start a new thread where the topic is Obama Phones and I may just participate.
 
I think we have crossed the line of thread drifting.

Start a new thread where the topic is Obama Phones and I may just participate.

WHY?Fenton's three post:funny thata way fightin the Iraq war.:mrgreen:
 
Obama really should just tell the IRS and the media "thank you for my re-election" and leave it at that. But I suppose he did so privately. Across the street from the White House so it not logged in.
 
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