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White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

Buck Ewer said:
How anonymous do you think you really are here...
Just think back to some of the information you gave when you signed up for this forum...
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You think I give a damn? Report me to the IRS, go for it.
 
calamity said:
Nonsense. Conservatives give their money to churches, who then "take administrative fees and then send you only part of what you want or need."

There's no difference between a tax and a tithe except taxes go to secular versus religious institutions. In fact, tax is better because at least the secular institution is for a broader scope of people and the leadership is elected and held accountable. The religious one...not so much.
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Exactly right, a bureaucrat in Washington D.C. is much better at solving a local social problem than a local charity. That is why we have such tremendous success on federal social programs that cost more than intended, does less than intended, and never solves a problem. Seems the only choice you care about is the one that murders the unborn because choice about spending your own money isn't important to you.
 
Conservative said:
Was Watergate a scandal?
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Are...are you asking me like you don't know? Do you know?

If you don't, there's a wiki page on it. You can have yourself a cursory glance, skim some of the article to get an idea of just what Watergate was.

Do you understand the definition of a scandal?
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More than you, apparently.

Lying is a scandal and what Susan Rice did was lie to the American people based upon talking points that came from this Administration.
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Or not.

I mean, unless you have evidence that the administration set out to fool the American people, and a motive for this behavior as well.

*snip irrelevant bull*****
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You conservatives are so cute, you just can't help spewing all that stupid vitriol at the President, I wonder why that is?
 
Conservative said:
So the actions in Benghazi were indeed the reaction to a YouTube video? Interesting
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*groans* I'm just going to keep posting this.

suppose you have some sort of evidence to support this oft repeated (and totally ridiculous) lie?
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Evidence. Please.
 
Conservative said:
Did you tell Jay Carney that Benghazi wasn't an embassy?
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It was not an "embassy".
The 2012 Benghazi attack refers to an attack on the American diplomatic mission at Benghazi, in Libya on September 11, 2012 by a heavily armed group. The attack began during the night at a compound that is meant to protect the consulate building.
2012 Benghazi attack - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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The US embassy is in Tripoli.


Facts. They can be pesky things.
 
calamity said:
Among conservatives, facts are known to have a liberal bias. ;)
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"Oh".....seems such is hardly the case. Yeah Obama called it an act of terror. He did not state terrorism. He also stated why On 60 Minutes he did not use the word terrorism. So Lets not lets those Liberal biases get in the way of the REAL FACTS. Did you think the reason he was explaining away why He didn't use the Word Terroism. Might be a clue?

Sept.12: Obama Labels Attack ‘Act of Terror,’ Not ‘Terrorism’
Sept. 12: Clinton issues a statement confirming that four U.S. officials, not one, had been killed. She called it a “violent attack.”
Sept. 12: Clinton delivers a speech at the State Department to condemn the attack in Benghazi and to praise the victims as “heroes.” She again makes reference to the anti-Muslim video in similar language.

Sept. 12: Obama delivers a morning speech in the Rose Garden to address the deaths of U.S. diplomats in Libya. He said, “No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for.” He also makes reference to the anti-Muslim video when he says: “Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence. None.” He uses the term “act of terror” later that night when talking about the attack at a campaign event in Las Vegas.

Sept. 12: After his Rose Garden speech, Obama tapes an interview for “60 Minutes.” Obama says he didn’t use the word “terrorism” in his Rose Garden speech because “it’s too early to know exactly how this came about.” Steve Kroft, the show’s host, wonders how the attack could be described as a “mob action” since the attackers were “very heavily armed.” Obama says “we’re still investigating,” but he suspects “folks involved in this . . . were looking to target Americans from the start.”

Sept. 14: White House Says No Evidence of Planned Attack
Sept. 17: State Defends Rice and ‘Initial Assessment’
Sept. 18: Obama Says ‘Extremists’ Used Video As ‘Excuse’

Sept. 19: Olsen Calls It a ‘Terrorist Attack’
Sept. 20: W.H. Spokesman Calls It a ‘Terrorist Attack’ — Not Obama
Sept. 21: Clinton Calls It a ‘Terrorist Attack’

Sept. 24-25: Obama Refuses to Call It a Terrorist Attack

Sept. 26: ‘Let’s Be Clear, It Was a Terrorist Attack’

Carney is asked at a press briefing aboard Air Force One en route to Ohio why the president has not called the Benghazi incident a “terrorist attack.” He said, “The president — our position is, as reflected by the NCTC director, that it was a terrorist attack. It is, I think by definition, a terrorist attack when there is a prolonged assault on an embassy with weapons. … So, let’s be clear, it was a terrorist attack and it was an inexcusable attack.”.....snip~


Yeah Fact Check.Org, Politifact, CNN, BBC, UK Daily Mail, and even that Yahoo Timeline does have the real facts down. They all the say the same thing as Fact-Check Right here. :roll:
 
calamity said:
It was not an "embassy".


The US embassy is in Tripoli.


Facts. They can be pesky things.
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Yeah.....they sure can. You weren't calling it a Consulate now.....were you?
 
Conservative said:
Looks like another kid who wants attention, not going to get any more from me. Keep trying to provoke
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...Were you going to post more, or did you decide to cut it off there on purpose? "Keep trying to provoke" Doesn't really make to much sense standing alone there, but whatever...

I'm just going to take this as you not having any evidence to actually back up your assertions, and as part of a wider dearth of knowledge you have about the Benghazi Incident.

You concede the point then? Good.

Ciao.
 
calamity said:
Diplomatic mission.
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Yeah.....so now that we know Obama said why he didn't use the Word, terrorism. While at the same time not mentioning we knew 2hrs after the attack began.

Note the Factcheckers show Obama denied such until the Sept 26th. That it was even a Pre planned attack. Team Obama on that Date was saying it wasn't. But knew all along it was.

Do you think he OutRight lied on the 12th after knowing 2hrs in that it was a planned attack? Do you think that Team Obama can get around What Rice, and they stated about this Video talked about In the Fact Checkers Timelines.

See while Obama can detract with the US media.....just where do you think that puts his azz with News Sources Outside the US, that are running Factcheckers too?

So here is his dilemma.....either he knew after the first two hrs. Which then he would be lying that he didn't know. When he did. Or.....he was never told and he was completely absent on the Anniversary of 911. All due to going out West Coast to throw down and have that Party-time. Have some Drinks, Laugh a Lil, and Raise Money from all of the Hollywood Elite.

Things that Make go you Hmmmm.
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calamity said:
It was not an "embassy".


The US embassy is in Tripoli.


Facts. They can be pesky things.
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Yes, I understand that, I made a mistake as did Carney when he called it an Embassy. Those pesky little facts that say a conservative can admit when wrong, when will you learn that trait?
 
MMC said:
Yeah.....so now that we know Obama said why he didn't use the Word, terrorism. While at the same time not mentioning we knew 2hrs after the attack began.

Note the Factcheckers show Obama denied such until the Sept 26th. That it was even a Pre planned attack. Team Obama on that Date was saying it wasn't. But knew all along it was.

Do you think he OutRight lied on the 12th after knowing 2hrs in that it was a planned attack? Do you think that Team Obama can get around What Rice, and they stated about this Video talked about In the Fact Checkers Timelines.

See while Obama can detract with the US media.....just where do you think that puts his azz with News Sources Outside the US, that are running Factcheckers too?

So here is his dilemma.....either he knew after the first two hrs. Which then he would be lying that he didn't know. When he did. Or.....he was never told and he was completely absent on the Anniversary of 911. All due to going out West Coast to throw down and have that Party-time. Have some Drinks, Laugh a Lil, and Raise Money from all of the Hollywood Elite.

Things that Make go you Hmmmm.
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Obama is a spinmeister like all the other presidents. No question about that. The problem I have with the Right is that they cried "Wolf!" from the minute he took office, and they've been wrong about 99% of the time.

You reap what you sew.
 
calamity said:
Obama is a spinmeister like all the other presidents. No question about that. The problem I have with the Right is that they cried "Wolf!" from the minute he took office, and they've been wrong about 99% of the time.

You reap what you sew.
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Hmmmm, 99% of the time? Your opinion noted. Tell me how many times Obama has been right on his economic predictions?
 
calamity said:
Obama is a spinmeister like all the other presidents. No question about that. The problem I have with the Right is that they cried "Wolf!" from the minute he took office, and they've been wrong about 99% of the time.

You reap what you sew.
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Good analogy....which is probably in large part why none of this is resonating with the American public.
 
disneydude said:
Good analogy....which is probably in large part why none of this is resonating with the American public.
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I understand that the non partisan news rarely reaches the left coast but the Obama poll numbers are tanking especially when you balance the sample with equal numbers of Democrats, Republicans, and Independents.

Also, I know this is going to drive people with BDS crazy

George W Bush Hosts Wounded Warrior Weekend at His Texas Ranch | Is it 2012 in Nevada County Yet?
 
Conservative said:
Hmmmm, 99% of the time? Your opinion noted. Tell me how many times Obama has been right on his economic predictions?
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Nonsense. The Right was screaming "Porkulus" and that Tarp would not work and that deficit would make the economy collapse back in 2009. But, the economy turned around just like everyone not crying that the sky was falling predicted.
You guys have no credibility. That's why no one outside your bubble takes you serious anymore.

You reap what you sew.
 
Conservative said:
I understand that the non partisan news rarely reaches the left coast but the Obama poll numbers are tanking especially when you balance the sample with equal numbers of Democrats, Republicans, and Independents.

Also, I know this is going to drive people with BDS crazy

George W Bush Hosts Wounded Warrior Weekend at His Texas Ranch | Is it 2012 in Nevada County Yet?
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Obama poll numbers?

:lol:

Newsflash, genius. Obama isn't running for reelection. And, right now, the GOP Congress has lower poll numbers than a smelly sock. So, don't hold your breath for 2014 being a repeat of 2010.
 
calamity said:
Nonsense. The Right was screaming "Porkulus" and that Tarp would not work and that deficit would make the economy collapse back in 2009. But, the economy turned around just like everyone not crying that the sky was falling predicted.
You guys have no credibility. That's why no one outside your bubble takes you serious anymore.

You reap what you sew.
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TARP was a Bush initiated program passed by a bipartisan majority and was a loan most of which has been paid back. TARP is what economist credit for saving the economy and bringing us out of recession in June 2009, long before those shovels for shovel ready jobs arrived at their destination. Only a true believer in Obama can say the economy has turned around but those people have no concept of actual data or facts. I suggest you do some research for a change.
 
Conservative said:
I understand that the non partisan news rarely reaches the left coast but the Obama poll numbers are tanking especially when you balance the sample with equal numbers of Democrats, Republicans, and Independents.

Also, I know this is going to drive people with BDS crazy

George W Bush Hosts Wounded Warrior Weekend at His Texas Ranch | Is it 2012 in Nevada County Yet?
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LOL...THAT is supposed to drive us crazy? A better question is what is Bush doing for the families of the over 3000 dead soldiers that died as a result of his lies and manipulation?

This "weekend" is a mere pittance to a man who has zero respect for our military and who believes that our soldiers are pawns to use in his little neocon games. You should never ask a soldier to die for a lie.
 
calamity said:
Obama poll numbers?

:lol:

Newsflash, genius. Obama isn't running for reelection. And, right now, the GOP Congress has lower poll numbers than a smelly sock. So, don't hold your breath for 2014 being a repeat of 2010.
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Tell me exactly what a national poll on local Congressional representatives means? You want badly to believe what Obama tells you even though you called him a spinmeister. Didn't realize that the House made up the Congress but again that doesn't surprise me that you have no understanding of basic civics
 
calamity said:
Obama is a spinmeister like all the other presidents. No question about that. The problem I have with the Right is that they cried "Wolf!" from the minute he took office, and they've been wrong about 99% of the time.

You reap what you sew.
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Yeah some Cried Wolf for the wrong reasons.....but then Back then Obama was running around talking about how All those Obama-icans were joining in with him. Then those on the left were out heralding the News. Weren't they? Until his own remarks and statements gave him away as to where he really stood.

Although some of us knew Right from the start. Moreover I doubt we wrong about him. From the Get go.....a Community Agitator. None of the Democrats can say he didn't tear them up when running for anything in Chicago. He didn't pull them together. There was no reason to believe he would pull a Nation together.

At the very least people could believe him before, especially with all that talk on coming together. Now they know he was always full of s**t and that he was Never a Leader in the First Place.

Course Right now.....he is the one out sewing that wool, that he always had.
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