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Conservative said:
Based upon your screen name that is where you live, Disneyland where fantasy is reality and reality doesn't actually exist
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Nope....unlike you I recognize the difference between fantasy and reality.
 
MYTH: California has the highest taxes in the nation

FACT : California is a high-income state with a wide range of revenue sources. Besides local and state taxes, California collects fees, assessments and other taxes. Taking into account all of those sources of revenue, California has a very moderate tax rate. The percentage of average income Californians pay in all taxes, which is a measure of tax burden, is reasonable compared to other states. Using that measure of tax burden, California ranks number 17 behind states like Alaska, Wyoming and North Dakota that have a higher tax burden per capita.

MYTH: California's high-taxes and cost of doing business is driving businesses and jobs to states with fewer regulations

FACT: California loses very few jobs from businesses leaving the state. In fact, only 11,000 jobs leave the state annually out of a total of 18 million jobs. That's only 0.06% of California's total jobs that are lost by businesses moving out of state. The biggest job creation and loss engine are businesses opening, expanding, shrinking and closing within the state due to normal business cycles-very few businesses leave the state to our neighbors.

California has lost fewer jobs than our ostensibly "business-friendly" neighboring states. California does not rank in the Top 10 of states suffering job loss from 2008-09 and three of our five neighboring states lost more jobs than California. Our low-tax neighbors of Arizona, Nevada and Oregon had over 6.5% job loss, while California only had 4%. Even notoriously low-tax, little regulation states like Florida and the Carolinas have suffered more job losses than California.

MYTH: Businesses will not come to California because of our high-taxes and high-wages

FACT: Businesses chose their locations for many different reasons including the tax burden, but also based on other criteria such as infrastructure, education and skill level of the workforce, access to intellectual and natural resources and many others. In that regard, California has an advantage because of our natural and human resources and the high concentration of research and technology centers. In addition, California workers are among the most productive with an annual average output that is 13% higher than in other states.

However, we are in danger of losing our competitive edge. Budget cuts result in crumbling roads, under-funded education systems that fail to educate the workforce, traffic-clogged highways that slow delivery and inadequate housing stock. California businesses can't be globally competitive when they don't have the infrastructure to perform. That is what will drive business from the state.

MYTH: California already taxes everything

FACT: Actually, California has many untapped sources of revenue that other states regularly tax. We could raise billions from the following immediate changes, with little impact on small businesses:


$855 million: Oil Severance Tax of 9.9% on any oil pumping from California soil or water (California is the only oil-producing state without one.)

$2 billion: Close the corporate loophole on Proposition 13 and raise the rates on assessments of corporate property.

$1.1 billion: Impose a tax on services, similar to the sales tax. California only taxes 21 of a possible 168 services that many states tax. In contrast, Washington and New Mexico tax 158 different services.

$470 million: Raise the corporate income tax by only 0.46% which barely keeps pace with the 557% net profit corporations saw from 2001-05 in California.
TOTAL: $5.725 Billion

If there's one thing we've learned from our nation's deep financial crisis it's that when a group of Republicans come together and start scheming about de-regulation, everyone, including small business, should be concerned. Very concerned.

CA Labor :: California's Business Climate -- Myths & Facts
 
disneydude said:
You obviously have zero understanding of California. What "entitements" do we have in California that are unique to California. And you are aware, are you not that massive cuts have been made to programs in California. But....you probably aren't educated on those things or would simply choose to ignore it.
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Obviously, apparently the debt isn't real, the high taxes aren't real, the high unemployment isn't real, the massive numbers on California minimum wage aren't real, the companies fleeing the state isn't real. Do you ever get out of Disneyland? You really need to get off the computer and actually get out into the community and see what is going on.
 
Conservative said:
Obviously, apparently the debt isn't real, the high taxes aren't real, the high unemployment isn't real, the massive numbers on California minimum wage aren't real, the companies fleeing the state isn't real. Do you ever get out of Disneyland? You really need to get off the computer and actually get out into the community and see what is going on.
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Those pesky facts again:

Texas: The minimum-wage state - San Antonio Express-News

From a TEXAS source even. Texas is tied with Mississippi as the state with the highest number of minimum wage workers.

Why do you think they call Texas "The minimum wage state"?
 
disneydude said:
MYTH: California has the highest taxes in the nation

FACT : California is a high-income state with a wide range of revenue sources. Besides local and state taxes, California collects fees, assessments and other taxes. Taking into account all of those sources of revenue, California has a very moderate tax rate. The percentage of average income Californians pay in all taxes, which is a measure of tax burden, is reasonable compared to other states. Using that measure of tax burden, California ranks number 17 behind states like Alaska, Wyoming and North Dakota that have a higher tax burden per capita.

MYTH: California's high-taxes and cost of doing business is driving businesses and jobs to states with fewer regulations

FACT: California loses very few jobs from businesses leaving the state. In fact, only 11,000 jobs leave the state annually out of a total of 18 million jobs. That's only 0.06% of California's total jobs that are lost by businesses moving out of state. The biggest job creation and loss engine are businesses opening, expanding, shrinking and closing within the state due to normal business cycles-very few businesses leave the state to our neighbors.

California has lost fewer jobs than our ostensibly "business-friendly" neighboring states. California does not rank in the Top 10 of states suffering job loss from 2008-09 and three of our five neighboring states lost more jobs than California. Our low-tax neighbors of Arizona, Nevada and Oregon had over 6.5% job loss, while California only had 4%. Even notoriously low-tax, little regulation states like Florida and the Carolinas have suffered more job losses than California.

MYTH: Businesses will not come to California because of our high-taxes and high-wages

FACT: Businesses chose their locations for many different reasons including the tax burden, but also based on other criteria such as infrastructure, education and skill level of the workforce, access to intellectual and natural resources and many others. In that regard, California has an advantage because of our natural and human resources and the high concentration of research and technology centers. In addition, California workers are among the most productive with an annual average output that is 13% higher than in other states.

However, we are in danger of losing our competitive edge. Budget cuts result in crumbling roads, under-funded education systems that fail to educate the workforce, traffic-clogged highways that slow delivery and inadequate housing stock. California businesses can't be globally competitive when they don't have the infrastructure to perform. That is what will drive business from the state.

MYTH: California already taxes everything

FACT: Actually, California has many untapped sources of revenue that other states regularly tax. We could raise billions from the following immediate changes, with little impact on small businesses:


$855 million: Oil Severance Tax of 9.9% on any oil pumping from California soil or water (California is the only oil-producing state without one.)

$2 billion: Close the corporate loophole on Proposition 13 and raise the rates on assessments of corporate property.

$1.1 billion: Impose a tax on services, similar to the sales tax. California only taxes 21 of a possible 168 services that many states tax. In contrast, Washington and New Mexico tax 158 different services.

$470 million: Raise the corporate income tax by only 0.46% which barely keeps pace with the 557% net profit corporations saw from 2001-05 in California.
TOTAL: $5.725 Billion

If there's one thing we've learned from our nation's deep financial crisis it's that when a group of Republicans come together and start scheming about de-regulation, everyone, including small business, should be concerned. Very concerned.

CA Labor :: California's Business Climate -- Myths & Facts
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Let me know with such a wonderful business climate and incredibly friendly tax structure why California has such high debt and such an entitlement mentality?

States with the highest and lowest tax burdens
 
disneydude said:
Those pesky facts again:

Texas: The minimum-wage state - San Antonio Express-News

From a TEXAS source even. Texas is tied with Mississippi as the state with the highest number of minimum wage workers.

Why do you think they call Texas "The minimum wage state"?
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The facts as you want to claim ignore that the study is only for states paying the Federal Minimum wage not their own state minimum wage which in California is $8 an hour. I would have thought you would know what the minimum wage was in California and the fact is there are 3 times the number of people making California minimum wage vs Texans making the Federal minimum wage
 
disneydude said:
Those pesky facts again:

Texas: The minimum-wage state - San Antonio Express-News

From a TEXAS source even. Texas is tied with Mississippi as the state with the highest number of minimum wage workers.

Why do you think they call Texas "The minimum wage state"?
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Such delusion.

I travel the country far and wide constantly. I'm in LA all the damn time. Good gosh, what a decrepid, all-or-nothing bastion of me-me-me nothingness that craphole is. Nice weather though.

Meanwhile, people in Texas - LOTS of people in Texas - thrive. There is opportunity dripping from the sky, and money goes a long, long way thanks to the policies and practices of the state as a whole.

You found a story from a little pocket of Democrats who are wanting desperately to get those "minimum wage" folks qualified as U.S. Citizens. Nothing more.

Detroit, Chicago, New York, Boston, DC, LA.....been to them all a ton, and the whining, bitching, and complaining is so pervasive, it's no wonder there's such a vacuum of spirit and neighborly decency in any of them.
 
Erod said:
New York, Boston it's no wonder there's such a vacuum of spirit and neighborly decency in any of them.
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9/11 and the Boston bombing proved otherwise.

I really don`t understand what it must be like.

To have a brain that looks at the world through such black and white terms.

"These states have slightly different viewpoints than I do... THEY ARE WORTHLESS SWINE".
 
Erod said:
Such delusion.

I travel the country far and wide constantly. I'm in LA all the damn time. Good gosh, what a decrepid, all-or-nothing bastion of me-me-me nothingness that craphole is. Nice weather though.

Meanwhile, people in Texas - LOTS of people in Texas - thrive. There is opportunity dripping from the sky, and money goes a long, long way thanks to the policies and practices of the state as a whole.

You found a story from a little pocket of Democrats who are wanting desperately to get those "minimum wage" folks qualified as U.S. Citizens. Nothing more.

Detroit, Chicago, New York, Boston, DC, LA.....been to them all a ton, and the whining, bitching, and complaining is so pervasive, it's no wonder there's such a vacuum of spirit and neighborly decency in any of them.
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funny....all the whining and bitching and complaining that is so pervasive in LA...is not coming from LA. The whining and bitching is generally coming from the people who are not lucky enough to live here.
 
Conservative said:
The facts as you want to claim ignore that the study is only for states paying the Federal Minimum wage not their own state minimum wage which in California is $8 an hour. I would have thought you would know what the minimum wage was in California and the fact is there are 3 times the number of people making California minimum wage vs Texans making the Federal minimum wage
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funny how those BLM numbers that you love so much aren't so loveable when the facts destroy your myths.
 
disneydude said:
funny how those BLM numbers that you love so much aren't so loveable when the facts destroy your myths.
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And what would those facts be? You believe California was counted in the minimum wage numbers you posted? Prove it
 
Conservative said:
So selfishness is indeed a liberal trait?
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Hows it "liberal trait" to state that my stocks have done pretty well lately after taking a nosedive during the great bush recession?:2wave:
 
Donc said:
Hows it "liberal trait" to state that my stocks have done pretty well lately after taking a nosedive during the great bush recession?:2wave:
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Congratulations, mine have done well during every President's term, wonder if it has anything to do with my investment strategy and not who the President is? What economic policy has Obama implemented that has benefited the stock market which in tern benefits the average American?
 
Conservative said:
Congratulations, mine have done well during every President's term, wonder if it has anything to do with my investment strategy and not who the President is? What economic policy has Obama implemented that has benefited the stock market which in tern benefits the average American?
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More bad facts for you Con.....Mississippi has now past Texas. Texas is now #1 in the Country for having the most people working for minimum wage. Bet that makes ya proud now doesn't it.

Texas has most minimum-wage workers in nation - KFDA - NewsChannel 10 / Amarillo News, Weather, Sports
 
Donc said:
Hows it "liberal trait" to state that my stocks have done pretty well lately after taking a nosedive during the great bush recession?:2wave:
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Bush Recession? Conservative will tell you that GWB led this great country to the economic utopia.
 
disneydude said:
Bush Recession? Conservative will tell you that GWB led this great country to the economic utopia.
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You are so right, Obama's economic numbers are so much better

Bush-4.9 trillion added to the debt in 8 years, Obama 6 trillion in 4+
Bush left office with 143 million people employed, Obama has 143 million employed
Bush left office with a labor force of 154 million and there are 155 million now
Bush generated 4.5 trillion in GDP Growth in 8 years Obama has created 1.5 trillion in 4 + years
Bush never had 50 million people on food stamps
Bush never had a trillion dollar deficit
Bush never had over 100 million Americans on some form of taxpayer assistance

So yes, Obama has been much better than Bush, Congratulations
 
disneydude said:
Here ya go Con:
Tables 1 - 10; Characteristics of Minimum Wage Workers: 2011


What is your excuse for the FACTS going to be this time. Its fun watching you shuffle around trying to cover up your missteps. You should just quit....
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Stop making an ass out of yourself, if the state doesn't pay federal minimum wage they aren't counted and that is the case with California. Maybe this will explain it to you but doubt it.

California has a ton of workers making California minimum wage - it's just that all of those workers don't get folded into the BLS statistics because they're not making the Federal minimum wage.

MICHAEL KINSMAN
State's minimum wage should be tied to inflation index

No one knows for sure how many Californians earn minimum wage. The best estimates claim that about 2 million jobs pay the minimum or slightly above that – about 13.5 percent of all jobs in the state
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sorry to nag, but the last dozen posts have zero to do with this topic.

any chance you guys can take this elsewhere?
 
ARealConservative said:
sorry to nag, but the last dozen posts have zero to do with this topic.

any chance you guys can take this elsewhere?
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You are absolutely correct, my apology but that is what Disney always does divert from the topic and unfortunately I fall right into line allowing him to do that. No more but that is all he can do is divert from the Obama record
 
Conservative said:
Stop making an ass out of yourself, if the state doesn't pay federal minimum wage they aren't counted and that is the case with California. Maybe this will explain it to you but doubt it.
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So....just as you imagine everything else....you are imagining that you don't see California on the listed alphabetically between Arkansas and Colorado? I suggest you look at little closer. Sorry Con...you cannot escape the fact that your suckhole of a state has the highest number of people on minimum wage in the country. That is just the facts.
 
Conservative said:
You are absolutely correct, my apology but that is what Disney always does divert from the topic and unfortunately I fall right into line allowing him to do that. No more but that is all he can do is divert from the Obama record
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Go back and take a look Con, you'll see who diverted this conversation....or are you going to imagine that as well.
 
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