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Automakers hawk electric 'compliance cars' to meet rules

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LOS ANGELES -- Automakers are in the uncomfortable position of building mostly at a loss a class of small electric cars that garner a lot of attention but few sales just to satisfy rules imposed by one state, California.

As a result, they've acquired the name "compliance cars."

Automakers hawk electric 'compliance cars' to meet rules
 
Rocketman said:
LOS ANGELES -- Automakers are in the uncomfortable position of building mostly at a loss a class of small electric cars that garner a lot of attention but few sales just to satisfy rules imposed by one state, California.

As a result, they've acquired the name "compliance cars."

Automakers hawk electric 'compliance cars' to meet rules
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Well, not only are they compliance cars, but every car purchaser in the nation will be paying for the actions brought about by a California regulatory agency, the California Air Resources Board, the EPA's evil cousin.

By 2025, nearly 20% of all new cars sold in California must be Zero Emissions Vehicles - ZEV's for short... (The current Chevy Volt does not qualify)

Zero Emission Vehicle (ZEV) Program
 
ocean515 said:
Well, not only are they compliance cars, but every car purchaser in the nation will be paying for the actions brought about by a California regulatory agency, the California Air Resources Board, the EPA's evil cousin.

By 2025, nearly 20% of all new cars sold in California must be Zero Emissions Vehicles - ZEV's for short... (The current Chevy Volt does not qualify)

Zero Emission Vehicle (ZEV) Program
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I wish the automakers would stick together and pull out of california
 
ocean515 said:
Well, not only are they compliance cars, but every car purchaser in the nation will be paying for the actions brought about by a California regulatory agency, the California Air Resources Board, the EPA's evil cousin.

By 2025, nearly 20% of all new cars sold in California must be Zero Emissions Vehicles - ZEV's for short... (The current Chevy Volt does not qualify)

Zero Emission Vehicle (ZEV) Program
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Where are the lawyers on this ?

Why is Cal so special as to be granted their own laws?

Rhetorical ? I know the answer.
 
Rocketman said:
I wish the automakers would stick together and pull out of california
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That's the thing. The Liberal/progressives running California know California is the largest auto market in the United States, so automakers have no choice but to bend over and take it.
 
ocean515 said:
That's the thing. The Liberal/progressives running California know California is the largest auto market in the United States, so automakers have no choice but to bend over and take it.
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They could limit the models they sell there and should
 
penn1954 said:
Where are the lawyers on this ?

Why is Cal so special as to be granted their own laws?

Rhetorical ? I know the answer.
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Why are companies continuing to do business there? Because they have money to spend.

My company is always doing something special just for Cali
 
ocean515 said:
That's the thing. The Liberal/progressives running California know California is the largest auto market in the United States, so automakers have no choice but to bend over and take it.
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No, they have a choice and I resent that don't make that choice. I'm tired of paying for California's incompetent legislature.
 
Rocketman said:
I am buying this tomorrow, thank god I am not from California

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GTX, sweet!

We've had to fight Sacramento to keep muscle cars alive in California. They've been working like hell to crush the hobby despite the thousands of people who make a living building a restoring the beauties...
 
Rocketman said:
They could limit the models they sell there and should
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Either way, 1 of every 5 cars sold has to be a ZEV. Of course, that's for the big auto makers. There are offsets, and penalties, and provisions for the Ferrari's etc., but it's all going to cost big bucks for the consumers, and the automakers.
 
fmw said:
No, they have a choice and I resent that don't make that choice. I'm tired of paying for California's incompetent legislature.
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Well, they wouldn't be there if it weren't for the incompetent voters who are paid to keep them there.

It's not hard to see what happens when over 30 percent of the nations welfare cases reside in a state with only 13 percent or so of the nations population.
 
penn1954 said:
If you drive it close to Ft Wayne let me know.

I want a ride!!!!

Thanks.
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We are about 7 hours from one another. I love the Auburn Museum up that way though!
 
ocean515 said:
GTX, sweet!

We've had to fight Sacramento to keep muscle cars alive in California. They've been working like hell to crush the hobby despite the thousands of people who make a living building a restoring the beauties...
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that is sad, I will be adding and INDY cylinder head package to it later so it will thump
 
ocean515 said:
Either way, 1 of every 5 cars sold has to be a ZEV. Of course, that's for the big auto makers. There are offsets, and penalties, and provisions for the Ferrari's etc., but it's all going to cost big bucks for the consumers, and the automakers.
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Unless they only sell 20 total cars in Cali. Probably would cut out a large portion of their potential sales, but if Cali is going to make the cost of entry into their market that ****ty, all car makers would pay the same price.

Might make sense to open a few dealerships in the Nevada desert.
 
Samhain said:
Unless they only sell 20 total cars in Cali. Probably would cut out a large portion of their potential sales, but if Cali is going to make the cost of entry into their market that ****ty, all car makers would pay the same price.

Might make sense to open a few dealerships in the Nevada desert.
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California carries some of the highest registration fees in the nation. It's actually been higher. The Highway Patrol is always on the lookout for "local" cars with Nevada, Arizona, or Oregon license plates. The difference can be thousands of dollars per year, depending on the vehicle. Registration fees are based on cost of the vehicle, not necessarily weight.
 
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