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IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups[W:484,732]

Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

rocket88 said:
IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 2012 election - The Washington Post

This actually bothers me more than Benghazi...
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This is banana-republic stuff. It's not the sort of stuff IRS workers should be fired for; it's the sort of stuff they should get prison time for.

ObamaCare will not be administered with any more fairness than the tax laws were.

Some conservative and libertarian groups have long suspected that the Internal Revenue Service has targeted right-leaning non-profits for extra scrutiny, but such allegations were always difficult to prove (and often sounded a bit conspiratorial). Now, however, the head of the IRS division that oversees tax-exempt organizations has admitted her division targeted “tea party” and “patriot” groups — and apologized for it. In addition, the IRS apparently asked some groups for donor lists, even though such requests are usually contrary to IRS policy. (Hat tip: Rick Hasen, whose first comment was ”Wow.”) As they say, just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean people aren’t out to get you.
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I want heads on pikes.

The Volokh Conspiracy » IRS Admits Targeting “Tea Party” Groups

Also this:

Tax Audits Are No Laughing Matter - WSJ.com
 
Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

justabubba said:
how is this different from profiling those looking middle eastern when boarding planes because of the greater likelihood of catching a bad guy?
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...Okay. We don't do that but I'll play along.

Has the majority of recent significant attempts at fraudulently establishing tax-exempt status been from "tea party" and "patriot" groups?
 
Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

I dunno, but not paying taxes is their mantra...
Zyphlin said:
...Okay. We don't do that but I'll play along.

Has the majority of recent significant attempts at fraudulently establishing tax-exempt status been from "tea party" and "patriot" groups?
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Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

trfjr said:
so the IRS used gestapo tactics in an attempt to silence groups that opposed Obama. this is the same department that will have access to our medical records thanks to Obama care. And we supposed to have faith in the government and not fear tyranny according to Obama
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Well...a few low level workers in a single field office is hardly "The IRS" as some kind of entity. And how would the IRS have access to our medical records?

trfjr said:
when has the Tea Party ever flown a plane into a building? when has the Tea Party ever done any acts of violence?
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This...doesn't make sense in relation to his question. He wasn't suggesting the Tea Party did those things.
 
Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

LowDown said:
This is banana-republic stuff. It's not the sort of stuff IRS workers should be fired for; it's the sort of stuff they should get prison time for.

ObamaCare will not be administered with any more fairness than the tax laws were.



I want heads on pikes.

The Volokh Conspiracy » IRS Admits Targeting “Tea Party” Groups

Also this:

Tax Audits Are No Laughing Matter - WSJ.com
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what scares the hell out of me. the same department the IRS will have access to our medical records thanks to Obama care
 
Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

mak2 said:
I dunno, but not paying taxes is their mantra...
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yes, why would it be smart to profile them? [/s]
 
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I dont think they should be targeted, but I dont think this is a story either.
justabubba said:
yes, why would it be smart to profile them? [/s]
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mak2 said:
I dunno, but not paying taxes is their mantra...
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TEA in the Tea Party stands for "Taxed Enough Already"

Not "No TAXES AT ALL".

The Tea Party mantra isn't "There should be no taxes of any kind at all".

I see your like Justabubba, but I'm still waiting for an answer. I'll be happy to address your hypothetical, but you at least have to present evidence that the situational circumstances are relatively similar. The Tea Party wanting lower taxes is not it.

In the analogy you used...there's actual tangible evidence of the significant instances of the particular action in recent history being caused primarily by people within the group of people being profiled.

Thus...for your analogy, you'd need to show tangible evidenec of the significant instances of fraudulent application for tax exempt status in recent history being caused primarily by Tea Party and Patriot groups.
 
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Zyphlin said:
. And how would the IRS have access to our medical records?
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the enforcement agency for Obama care will be the IRS. Obama care has given the IRS the right to access your medical records so to help with the enforcement
 
Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

Zyphlin said:
...Okay. We don't do that but I'll play along.

Has the majority of recent significant attempts at fraudulently establishing tax-exempt status been from "tea party" and "patriot" groups?
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good question
given its current data base the IRS should be able to answer your question
 
Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

MaggieD said:
I think you are astute in setting your priorities, Rocket88. I hope this story gets some legs.
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I think heads need to roll, but it won't happen. The IRS has already said that no disciplinary action will be taken.

This is bureaucratic tyranny, straight from the top of our government.
 
Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

Do you really think Obama told the workers to target RWers? Really?
apdst said:
I think heads need to roll, but it won't happen. The IRS has already said that no disciplinary action will be taken.

This is bureaucratic tyranny, straight from the top of our government.
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Deuce said:
Key:


Certainly inexcusable behavior, just trying to make sure nobody reads the headline and pictures some massive conspiracy.
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Why aren't those people getting their asses fired??
 
Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

mak2 said:
Do you really think Obama told the workers to target RWers? Really?
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When did I say Obama?
 
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trfjr said:
the enforcement agency for Obama care will be the IRS. Obama care has given the IRS the right to access your medical records so to help with the enforcement
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wut??
 
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See bold
apdst said:
I think heads need to roll, but it won't happen. The IRS has already said that no disciplinary action will be taken.

This is bureaucratic tyranny, straight from the top of our government.
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Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

mak2 said:
See bold
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You give Obama waaaaay too much credit.
 
Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

apdst said:
Why aren't those people getting their asses fired??
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because they thought they were doing the job they were assigned to perform
 
Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

About the IRS haveing your EMR.
apdst said:
About what?
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Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

justabubba said:
because they thought they were doing the job they were assigned to perform
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LOL...if that's the case, then they're way too stupid to hold those positions and need to be relieved of their posts, for incompetance.

On what level of idiocy does one have to be, to think this is ok?

The most amazing part, is how you people are swooping in to defend these asshats.
 
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Who defended them?
apdst said:
LOL...if that's the case, then they're way too stupid to hold those positions and need to be relieved of their posts, for incompetance.

On what level of idiocy does one have to be, to think this is ok?

The most amazing part, is how you people are swooping in to defend these asshats.
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