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Minnesota House Approves Gay Marriage, 75-59

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Minn. House Approves Gay Marriage, 75-59

ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) — A pivotal vote Thursday in the Minnesota House positioned that state to become the 12th in the country to allow gay marriages and the first in the Midwest to pass such a law out of its Legislature. The 75-59 vote was a critical step for the measure, which would allow same-sex weddings beginning this summer. It’s a startling shift in the state, where just six months earlier voters turned back an effort to ban them in the Minnesota Constitution.
The state Senate plans to consider the bill Monday and leaders expect it to pass there too. Gov. Mark Dayton has pledged to sign it into law.
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Minn. House Approves Gay Marriage, 75-59 « CBS Minnesota

Good news for SSM supporters.

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Ugh, I hate it when we progress as a species.
 
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obvious Child said:
Yawn. Still don't see a reason that is rational to be against gay marriage.
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I was pleased it wasn't something up for public vote.
 
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Good the time will come one day when all 50 states have equality.
 
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TheDemSocialist said:
Good the time will come one day when all 50 states have equality.
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When will I be able to marry my first cousin, she's hot, and when will I be able to marry more the one woman?
 
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You can marry her as soon as I'm done with her.

Cousin marriage legal
Alabama
Alaska
California
Colorado
Connecticut
District of Columbia
Florida
Georgia
Hawaii
Maryland
Massachusetts
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
North Carolina*
Rhode Island
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vermont
Virginia

You can marry as many women as you can afford but if I were you, I'd be very careful that they don't find out about each other. Safety first!
 
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specklebang said:
You can marry her as soon as I'm done with her.

Cousin marriage legal
Alabama
Alaska
California
Colorado
Connecticut
District of Columbia
Florida
Georgia
Hawaii
Maryland
Massachusetts
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
North Carolina*
Rhode Island
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vermont
Virginia

You can marry as many women as you can afford but if I were you, I'd be very careful that they don't find out about each other. Safety first!
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:mrgreen:
 
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Good, another one down. How long until this idiocy is done and it's legal everywhere?
 
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Good news.
 
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AlabamaPaul said:
When will I be able to marry my first cousin, she's hot, and when will I be able to marry more the one woman?
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In all likelihood that will be the next fight we see in marriage. That is one the few other marriage restrictions left that is very shaky on whether it is really furthering a state interest, particularly since it is legal in pretty much half the states (excluding same sex marriage restrictions of course).

I personally support making first cousin marriages legal. I would support your fight for it just as I do same sex couples.

Now, I will say that at least there is a small state interest in possibly keeping first cousins from marrying, in the genetic issues, but it is such a small increase, that I don't agree with it really being large enough to be a real state interest to restrict it.
 
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Cephus said:
Good, another one down. How long until this idiocy is done and it's legal everywhere?
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You have a ways to go yet if the process continues to be on a state-by-state basis without a national push, and an even worse situation if you have the public vote on it state by state.
 
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Fiddytree said:
You have a ways to go yet if the process continues to be on a state-by-state basis without a national push, and an even worse situation if you have the public vote on it state by state.
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All worthwhile things take time.
 
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Cephus said:
All worthwhile things take time.
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Yep. Which is why I think if it takes another decade or more, sometime just before half way mark we need a national push.
 
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It would seem more than anything else, this will be "Obama's Legacy". Long time passing - I remember when it was illegal to be a homosexual. I wish every state would do this instead of proving that the Feds must run everything in America to insure fairness.
 
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AlabamaPaul said:
When will I be able to marry my first cousin, she's hot, and when will I be able to marry more the one woman?
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You already can in more states than allow SSM. Your cousin at least. No one can marry more than one person. Maybe you should start a movement.
 
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AlabamaPaul said:
When will I be able to marry my first cousin, she's hot, and when will I be able to marry more the one woman?
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Go for it, AlabamaPaul. Your state is way ahead of you. Polygamy may happen. It's not easy to draw an important state interest in banning polygamy. However, I suspect the process would take some time, there are quite a few legal kinks (teehee) to work out regarding inheritance, child custody, divorce, etc. New laws would have to be written to handle those scenarios.

I personally think polygamy is... weird and a little unsettling. But I also recognize that this isn't grounds to ban the practice. Because I also think peanut butter and jelly sandwiches are weird (and gross). PBJ fans would say "Who the hell asked you?"

roguenuke said:
In all likelihood that will be the next fight we see in marriage. That is one the few other marriage restrictions left that is very shaky on whether it is really furthering a state interest, particularly since it is legal in pretty much half the states (excluding same sex marriage restrictions of course).

I personally support making first cousin marriages legal. I would support your fight for it just as I do same sex couples.

Now, I will say that at least there is a small state interest in possibly keeping first cousins from marrying, in the genetic issues, but it is such a small increase, that I don't agree with it really being large enough to be a real state interest to restrict it.
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First cousin marriage is already legal in quite a few states. Including Alabama, which surprises nobody. :D

However, I've yet to see any call for expanding such a thing. I don't think it's comparable and I really don't see it happening.

From what I understand, though, you're right about the genetic issues between first cousins being minimal. The problems only really occur in sibling or child/parent couplings, and even then I think it's only really problematic when done over several generations. (which those..types.. seem to be prone to) But hey, that's for them sciencey types to figure out.
 
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Fiddytree said:
I was pleased it wasn't something up for public vote.
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You don't think the same voters who turned down the ban would go for this? Not that i care what the public thinks, except i think there is no chance the legislator passes this if not for the 2012 result.
 
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chromium said:
You don't think the same voters who turned down the ban would go for this? Not that i care what the public thinks, except i think there is no chance the legislator passes this if not for the 2012 result.
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The track record of referendums for civil rights legislation have not been fantastic, once you consider the woman's suffrage movement onward. You try to escape them if you can. With minority rights issues, sometimes you have to consider if it would be more beneficial to have the public remain ignorant or not to the agenda.
 
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chromium said:
You don't think the same voters who turned down the ban would go for this? Not that i care what the public thinks, except i think there is no chance the legislator passes this if not for the 2012 result.
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I don't think people should get to vote on basic civil rights at all.
 
^Yeah i totally agree and Iowa and CA are great examples. I'm just saying the voters might not have stood in the way in this particular case.
 
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Fiddytree said:
Minn. House Approves Gay Marriage, 75-59 « CBS Minnesota

Good news for SSM supporters.

Edit: If need be, please edit title. I tried to put back the abbreviation in the tread title, but I seemed to have not had it go through.
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Is Minnesota considered midwest today? When I grew up the midwest ran from Penn to Ill and up to Wisconsin. Then the plain states followed by the mountain states and west coast.

Regardless, good for them.
 
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I believe that ordinarily states are required to recognize marriages in other states. The Defense of Marriage Act created a special anti-gay exception. If and when the Supremes strike down DOMA in June (pretty likely IMO) gay marriage will be a reality nationwide because gays will be able to travel to a gay marriage state to get married and then have the marriage recognized in the state where they live.
 
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Perotista said:
Is Minnesota considered midwest today? When I grew up the midwest ran from Penn to Ill and up to Wisconsin. Then the plain states followed by the mountain states and west coast.

Regardless, good for them.
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It's been that way for a while, actually.
 
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