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Reid: More Funding Needed To Prevent ObamaCare From Becoming 'Train Wreck'

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this afternoon, the hill, brian lamb's favorite source on cspan's old washington journal

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) says he shares colleagues’ concerns that the Affordable Care Act could become a “train wreck” if it’s not implemented properly. Reid warned that people will not be able to choose health insurance plans on government health exchanges if federal authorities lack the resources to set them up and educate the public.

“Max said unless we implement this properly it’s going to be a train wreck and I agree with him,” Reid said, echoing a warning delivered last month by Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.).

Reid warned the federal government is not spending enough money to implement the law because of Republican opposition to ObamaCare. “Here’s what we have now, we have the menu but we don’t have any way to get to the menu,” Reid said.

“The president is taking money, I wish we had the money just to do this on its own but he’s agreed, he’s determined he’s going to take money from some of the other things that he feels are less important in the healthcare bill and put it on letting you and others know what’s in the bill,” Reid told a caller to the show.

“I believe that a country of our size, the only superpower left in the world — it’s not right that we have 50-60 million people … with no health insurance,” he said. “We have to have a program where health insurance shouldn’t go to people who are rich, people who are upper-middle class. I believe the middle class and people below the middle class deserve to go to the hospital when they’re sick.”

“Of course I read it. I didn’t sit down on a Friday evening and read it. This legislation was drafted over a period of months and months,” he said. “I can pass a test on it, I knew the law pretty well.”

Baucus sounded an alarm about the implementation of the healthcare law last week. "I just see a huge train wreck coming down," he told Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius at a hearing. "You and I have discussed this many times, and I don't see any results yet."

[Reid] conceded Wednesday that the executive branch has grabbed too much power in Washington and suggested a requirement that all laws be allowed to expire after 10 years to give Congress an opportunity to reevaluate them. “One of the things I pushed for many years is laws should sunset after ten years, that the only way — that in fact I introduced legislation, after ten years you would have to reauthorize the legislation — we haven’t done that and think that’s something we should consider,” he said.

“The White House over the last 30 years, maybe more, has been taking away too much power from the legislative branch,” he said. “I’d be happy to talk about earmarks, which is one example — this is only a power-grab by the White House.”

Reid: More funding needed to prevent ObamaCare from becoming 'train wreck' - The Hill - covering Congress, Politics, Political Campaigns and Capitol Hill | TheHill.com

baucus, shaheen, cardin, harkin, rockefeller...

now harry reid

choo choo!
 
This is priceless. It's the Republican's fault? He got the law the way he wanted it. He gloated when SCOTUS upheld the "tax". Reid has got to go.
 
Train wreck?

I've been to train wrecks (literally, I've worked for railroads.) Want to know something about train wrecks? They get fixed. All the broken equipment and all the torn-up track gets fixed and put back together. Want to know something else? They happen because something was wrong in the first place. Want to know what it is? Free-market, profit-driven health care. It doesn't work. It serves too few, costs them too much and delivers poor outcomes. We're better-off without it but until that day comes, we can deal with a few train wrecks.

Free-market health care. That's no way to run a railroad.
 
This is priceless. It's the Republican's fault? He got the law the way he wanted it. He gloated when SCOTUS upheld the "tax". Reid has got to go.

He didn't get the law the way he wanted. Couldn't even get enough Democrats to vote for what he wanted.
 
He didn't get the law the way he wanted. Couldn't even get enough Democrats to vote for what he wanted.

Even more reason he has to go.
 
Train wreck?

I've been to train wrecks (literally, I've worked for railroads.) Want to know something about train wrecks? They get fixed. All the broken equipment and all the torn-up track gets fixed and put back together. Want to know something else? They happen because something was wrong in the first place. Want to know what it is? Free-market, profit-driven health care. It doesn't work. It serves too few, costs them too much and delivers poor outcomes. We're better-off without it but until that day comes, we can deal with a few train wrecks.

Free-market health care. That's no way to run a railroad.

Remind me again who owns the railroads...you know the ones who fixes 'all the broken equipment and all the torn-up track'. Nice analogy. ;)
 
Train wreck?

I've been to train wrecks (literally, I've worked for railroads.) Want to know something about train wrecks? They get fixed. All the broken equipment and all the torn-up track gets fixed and put back together. Want to know something else? They happen because something was wrong in the first place. Want to know what it is? Free-market, profit-driven health care. It doesn't work. It serves too few, costs them too much and delivers poor outcomes. We're better-off without it but until that day comes, we can deal with a few train wrecks.

Free-market health care. That's no way to run a railroad.

The funny thing about railroads is that they're always in the red no matter if its privately run or publicly run.
 
Even more reason he has to go.

Yeah I don't think Obama got what he wanted but I still agree that Reid has to go.
 
The funny thing about railroads is that they're always in the red no matter if its privately run or publicly run.

That's funny... after reading your claim it took me all of 10 seconds to google up this story:

Norfolk Southern railroad 1Q profit up 10 percent

The Norfolk, Va.,-based railroad said it generated $450 million net income, or $1.41 per share, on $2.74 billion revenue. That's up from $410 million, or $1.23 per share, a year ago.

The railroad beat Wall Street expectations, even without a one-time profit of $60 million on a sale of land in Michigan that added 19 cents per share to Norfolk Southern's earnings.

Analysts surveyed by FactSet expected earnings of $1.17 per share on $2.78 billion in revenue.

The railroad's revenue was relatively flat compared to last year's $2.79 billion, but that could be considered a victory given the 17 percent decline in coal revenue.​
 
this afternoon, the hill, brian lamb's favorite source on cspan's old washington journal



Reid: More funding needed to prevent ObamaCare from becoming 'train wreck' - The Hill - covering Congress, Politics, Political Campaigns and Capitol Hill | TheHill.com

baucus, shaheen, cardin, harkin, rockefeller...

now harry reid

choo choo!

Perhaps those in congress should have read the dog gone thing before they passed it. Max Baucus may have helped get this thing passed, but he does have a level head on his shoulders and should be listened to.

Now it seems like the ACA may not be all it was cracked up to be and Reid knows it. It seems he is starting early to blame the opposing party for a bill that may turn out to be a dud. The ACA has already become much more expensive than originally thought, but that is normal for bills like this. Reid also know unless he can shift the blame if the ACA becomes a train wreck before the 2014 elections, he may no longer remain majority leader. To retain his majority, he must somehow convince the American Public the problem with the ACA is not the law itself, it is the other party fault for not funding it properly. Reid still lives in an America where throwing money at a problem, any problem, that problem can be fixed. Time will tell on the ACA. The use of bribes, the whip, threats to collegues of his own party in order to get this thing passed, that has always made me leery of it. We shall see what happens.
 
The first clue that the bill was bad is when they saw that it was the size of the Montana phone book.
 
Train wreck?

I've been to train wrecks (literally, I've worked for railroads.) Want to know something about train wrecks? They get fixed. All the broken equipment and all the torn-up track gets fixed and put back together. Want to know something else? They happen because something was wrong in the first place. Want to know what it is? Free-market, profit-driven health care. It doesn't work. It serves too few, costs them too much and delivers poor outcomes. We're better-off without it but until that day comes, we can deal with a few train wrecks.

Free-market health care. That's no way to run a railroad.
Perhaps they don't teach this at the railroad, but what we have now is not a free-market system.
 
The funny thing about railroads is that they're always in the red no matter if its privately run or publicly run.

It just isn't so. Some railroads have had trouble in the past but most are doing quite well.
 
Perhaps they don't teach this at the railroad, but what we have now is not a free-market system.

American health care is run by capitalists for the benefit of capitalists. While some parts of it are supported by the public, ours is a free-market system in all important respects.
 
this afternoon, the hill, brian lamb's favorite source on cspan's old washington journal



Reid: More funding needed to prevent ObamaCare from becoming 'train wreck' - The Hill - covering Congress, Politics, Political Campaigns and Capitol Hill | TheHill.com

baucus, shaheen, cardin, harkin, rockefeller...

now harry reid

choo choo!

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I don't see how the PPACA can succeed. it leaves in place a model which tries to deliver an essential service with inelastic demand via three tiers of for-profit entities. the cherry on top is that initial access is still tied to specific employment. anyone with open eyes can see why we're paying more than any other nation, and for poorer outcomes.
 
Train wreck?

I've been to train wrecks (literally, I've worked for railroads.) Want to know something about train wrecks? They get fixed. All the broken equipment and all the torn-up track gets fixed and put back together. Want to know something else? They happen because something was wrong in the first place. Want to know what it is? Free-market, profit-driven health care. It doesn't work. It serves too few, costs them too much and delivers poor outcomes. We're better-off without it but until that day comes, we can deal with a few train wrecks.

Free-market health care. That's no way to run a railroad.

This should be someone's signature. It's priceless. :lol:
 
Why? That's not the point.

Ok, what is the point? I understood your point was that railroad companies did just fine repairing their 'train wrecks' but they are private 'Free-market, profit-driven' entities. You compared their repair abilities to public efforts (PPACA). Is your point that the public sector is just as effective at 'repair' as the private sector? Thinkin' Amtrak within the construct of your analogy...what did I miss specifically?
 
If there are kinks, we can work them out. What we know for a fact is the healthcare system we had wasn't going to work and was going to drive America into the ground. What we have now isn't perfect, but it's far better than where we were.

All of these complaints about the current system seems silly. Progress is better than stagnation. ACA is progress. Free market healthcare is a guaranteed trainwreck.
 
obama care was a train wreck the moment it was signed. The dem's twisted arms, delivered bribes and fudged numbers to get this train on the track and now it is approaching the bridge that was never built at 60mph and it has no brakes.
 
Train wreck?

I've been to train wrecks (literally, I've worked for railroads.) Want to know something about train wrecks? They get fixed. All the broken equipment and all the torn-up track gets fixed and put back together. Want to know something else? They happen because something was wrong in the first place. Want to know what it is? Free-market, profit-driven health care. It doesn't work. It serves too few, costs them too much and delivers poor outcomes. We're better-off without it but until that day comes, we can deal with a few train wrecks.

Free-market health care. That's no way to run a railroad.

Completely devoid of knowledge regarding topic. Free market health care is THE BEST way to deliver health care. The challenge is and will forever be having a for profit third party (insurance companies) involved in what should and WOULD be, in a free market, a doctor-patient transaction.
 
If there are kinks, we can work them out. What we know for a fact is the healthcare system we had wasn't going to work and was going to drive America into the ground. What we have now isn't perfect, but it's far better than where we were.

All of these complaints about the current system seems silly. Progress is better than stagnation. ACA is progress. Free market healthcare is a guaranteed trainwreck.

You don't have a single shred of data to support that assertion.
 
This is priceless. It's the Republican's fault? He got the law the way he wanted it. He gloated when SCOTUS upheld the "tax". Reid has got to go.

And people believe it is the Republican's fault.
 
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