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Mountain Dew Under Fire for 'Most Racist Commercial in History

Do you feel the commercial was racist?


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1.)Evidence that perspective is everything. Black guy says it...all good. White guy says it...racist apocalypse.

I can say with relative certainty that if some white bread Ad agency offered that commercial it would be lambasted.


1.) simply not true :shrug: Id say this type of blanket thinking is part of the issue.
Are there some people that probably are like this? yes of course. SHould they represent all of minorities, absolutely not. Thats equal as moronic as the person crying false racism.

2.)uhm but in this case reality proves you wrong since this was done by black people and it was still "lambasted"

did you not read the OP?
 
I'm inclined to agree with Middleground...the commericial was more mysogentistic than it was racist. But mostly it was just stupid.

Goats can be funny on their own...but using a goat to threaten a battered woman with more abuse...really isn't that funny.

Why are young black men in the same police line up with an abusive woman hating goat? Is there a message there?

from my understanding they are all members of the same group and they created the goat character
 
how does saying McNabb is overrated tie to this at all LOL
See the response RE Barrack The Magic Negro? Now add in a white commentator saying this about Donovan McNabb (racist) vs a black player and teammate (not racist).
 
Barrack the magic negro was something coined by some liberal black professor talking about how white america has some fascination with "the magic negro". Rush Limbaugh picked up on it and was immediately accused of being racist

but what is it evidence of?
 
2.)uhm but in this case reality proves you wrong since this was done by black people and it was still "lambasted"

how many people lambasting it are aware of that, though?
 
how does it do that? Seemed it was using over the top troupes, and in no way lended them legitimate credence




*sigh*



No, you just need to lighten up and learn to take an attempt at humor as nothing more than an attempt at humor


Jeepers, you do not know me well. I am a lot of things, but a humourless tight-assed uppity I am not.

I laugh at poopie and fart jokes. I find humour in a lot of stereotyping and sex differences jokes. It takes a lot to offend me. I foud this commercial completely stupid, asinine, utterly retarded and misogynistic. I don't give a rat's behind if you think it's not not a poke at females because it's over the top. I completely disagree.
 
See the response RE Barrack The Magic Negro? Now add in a white commentator saying this about Donovan McNabb (racist) vs a black player and teammate (not racist).

again simply not true LOL

you are judging the actions of morons and applying it too the group, you realize that type of thinking is equal to that of the morons right?
 
how many people lambasting it are aware of that, though?

id say th emjority familiar with it since every article i have found states the basic background info on it and people are still continuing to lambast it and even direct their basting towards the group :shrug: they removed it from their site too
 
but what is it evidence of?

that people often shape their views of something on the racial identity of the person producing it, and not it's actual content. Not sure if it applies here, but I doubt many of the people who took offence to it even know who Tyler the Creator is. After all, he's still largely underground and is best known for his show on adult swim.

Mf Doom, was probably more prolific than Tyer when he was working closely with adult swim, and most of america still had absolutely no idea who he was
 
again simply not true LOL

you are judging the actions of morons and applying it too the group, you realize that type of thinking is equal to that of the morons right?
Seriously? Dood...I cited two relatively well known incidents that spawned months of outrage. Im not sure how old you are but apparently you missed those two incidents.

You already biased the 'debate' by offering that the commercial was created by a black ad group. My perspective is that if it had just been tossed out there as an ad offered by some white ad company there would be more than a little bit of outrage and debate. And probably should have a bit. I dont think it is 'racist' but it certainly plays into stereotypes.
 
Jeepers, you do not know me well. I am a lot of things, but a humourless tight-assed uppity I am not.

well, you play one well on the internet

I laugh at poopie and fart jokes.

And I am sure you laughed at plenty of other jokes involvng ridiculous situations and violence, because you likely can grasp they are not meant to be serious, in anyway. But in this particular case, you throw such common sense out the window

I find humour in a lot of stereotyping and sex differences jokes. It takes a lot to offend me. I foud this commercial completely stupid, asinine, utterly retarded and misogynistic. I don't give a rat's behind if you think it's not not a poke at females because it's over the top. I completely disagree.

my point is if it involved an equally absurd depiction of any other group, you would find no offense in it, because of it's obvious absurdity
 
that people often shape their views of something on the racial identity of the person producing it, and not it's actual content. Not sure if it applies here, but I doubt many of the people who took offence to it even know who Tyler the Creator is. After all, he's still largely underground and is best known for his show on adult swim.

Mf Doom, was probably more prolific than Tyer when he was working closely with adult swim, and most of america still had absolutely no idea who he was

possibly but this is an assumption and since this info is out there very readily and they are continuing to get blasted reality shows it applies very little here
 
Barrack the magic negro was something coined by some liberal black professor talking about how white america has some fascination with "the magic negro". Rush Limbaugh picked up on it and was immediately accused of being racist

Ah, no.

"Barack the Magic Negro"[2] is a song by American political satirist Paul Shanklin who wrote and recorded it for the Rush Limbaugh Show as satire after it was first applied to presidential candidate Obama by movie and culture critic David Ehrenstein in a Los Angeles Times op ed column of March 19, 2007.
 
I find this commercial completely idiotic, which I believe it was a poor attempt at ironic humor. That's what happens when you've got a bunch of immature goofs in corporate executive positions, making decisions. Now if the goat would've thrown up they could've had their favorite (not funny) disgusting, bodily function added.
 
id say th emjority familiar with it since every article i have found states the basic background info on it and people are still continuing to lambast it and even direct their basting towards the group :shrug: they removed it from their site too

There were no articles on the subject before people got outraged over it; I've seen articles mention Tylor, but they didn't outline that he was black; because information is accessable doesn't mean people will read it.

In fact, the first mention of the magic negro theory was in a LA times op-ed, but people still credited to rush, even to this day
 
Seriously? Dood...I cited two relatively well known incidents that spawned months of outrage. Im not sure how old you are but apparently you missed those two incidents.

2.)You already biased the 'debate' by offering that the commercial was created by a black ad group. My perspective is that if it had just been tossed out there as an ad offered by some white ad company there would be more than a little bit of outrage and debate. And probably should have a bit. I dont think it is 'racist' but it certainly plays into stereotypes.

1.) didnt miss them at all LMAO im probably older than you are, i pointed out the reality of you making shallow claims based on the actions of morons which is part of the problem.
You are making illogical inane blanket statements and judgments.

are you saying that all or the majority of minorities think that saying McNabb is overrated is racist? if yes then you have a reality issue, if no then again the issue is still on your side because it shows you are smart enough to know thats not how the majority of minorities think but yet you are making blanket statements accusing them of it.

2.) there was no "AD GROUP" LOL
and you perspective is wrong because this and the group are being blasted, the group had to take it off their website as well.
 
well, you play one well on the internet



And I am sure you laughed at plenty of other jokes involvng ridiculous situations and violence, because you likely can grasp they are not meant to be serious, in anyway. But in this particular case, you throw such common sense out the window



my point is if it involved an equally absurd depiction of any other group, you would find no offense in it, because of it's obvious absurdity

And my point being that it's one think to laugh at absurd jokes on the internet and it's another thing when absurdity is used for a national corporate campaign. There is a line that should not be crossed, don't you think?
 
There were no articles on the subject before people got outraged over it; I've seen articles mention Tylor, but they didn't outline that he was black; because information is accessable doesn't mean people will read it.

In fact, the first mention of the magic negro theory was in a LA times op-ed, but people still credited to rush, even to this day


if you say so but the fact remains now there are 100s maybe even a 1000 and the outrage continues. SO the reality is in this case race didnt play a factor, especially since the group itself has been blasted LOL
 
possibly but this is an assumption and since this info is out there very readily and they are continuing to get blasted reality shows it applies very little here

right, all we can offer on the topic is various assumptions. That's because we don't have any real measurement for how many people know who he is. Both of us can only draw inferences on the topic and attempt to support them with related evidence
 
right, all we can offer on the topic is various assumptions. That's because we don't have any real measurement for how many people know who he is. Both of us can only draw inferences on the topic and attempt to support them with related evidence

except for the fact that its still getting blasted with this info out there and the black group themselves are being blasted lol

You have the assumption that maybe people didnt know in the beginning with zero evidence but i admit, likely.
im stating facts that many people do know now, are still blasting it and even blasting the black group directly and not through mt. dew.
 
And my point being that it's one think to laugh at absurd jokes on the internet and it's another thing when absurdity is used for a national corporate campaign. There is a line that should not be crossed, don't you think?

Depends: I imagine Mountain Dew is courting a demographic that isn't hypersensitive about such things, and embraces an image associated with risk to appeal to it.

But over all, I'm not seeing anything wrong with the add, besides it just generally sucking.
 
Yes. But he is not "some liberal black professor." Interesting you added that fabrication. I bet it was all about emphasis, eh?

He is black. Did you ever see his picture, or did you just draw conclusions from his name?
 
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