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Another Missed Deadline Ahead For Obamacare

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more delays, more failures, more broken promises

the biggie was april 1 when the white house announced that it must put off for a year the establishment of market-oriented health care exchanges for small business, thus confining those put upon enterprises to a choice of exactly one product

ObamaCare in Trouble? Exchange provision delayed, as lawmakers push to repeal another | Fox News

Obamacare Incompetence | TIME.com

did you know that the obamacare exchanges for individual buyers are prescribed by law to be up and running october 1?

they're not even moving on em

it's certainly not politic to talk about em, it's certainly not wise to be seen implementing em

these and many more are the worries and woes so many distinguished dems are distressing over in public these days

the very author of obamacare, retiring chair of senate finance max baucus, calls the rollout not a train wreck but a HUGE train wreck

the chair of his subcommittee on health, also retiring, uber lib jay rockefeller, calls the bill "beyond comprehension"

nyt did a story last week---"dem senators worry"

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/26/u...erns-about-health-care-law-rollout.html?_r=1&

ben cardin from maryland, the bluest demographics outside the northeast, is scared cuz carefirst (which covers 70% of terrapins) announced a 25% premium hike the day before

maryland is especially bellwether cuz it's one of the few states fully in cooperation with obamacare

jean shaheen up north agitates for those small business denied their much promised shop, also the fact that employers around her state are cutting hours to less than 30 per week to avoid the mandates

tom harkin (retiring, IA), chair of powerful appropriations' subcommittee on health, says he is "beyond upset" that the white house would raid public health and prevention to pay for education and outreach, he's even put a hold on obama's nominee at m&m services, marilyn tavener

last nite in south carolina, the sister of comedian steven colbert, elizabeth colbert busch, in a debate with former governor sanford (they're running in a special election for SC1 to replace tim scott) called obamacare "extremely problematic"

Democrats fret over Obamacare as 2014 looms - POLITICO

not just problematic but extremely problematic

exactly why would she and the ny times and obamacare author max baucus say such things?

are they lying to you?

kaiser today published a poll---obamacare is at an all time low, just 35% favorable

do you wonder why?

at his i-have-a-pulse press conference today, to celebrate his 100 days, obama conceded certain "glitches and bumps" in implementation

just bumps in the road---like benghazi

dems demand he get out and sell---he says he'll do it in the summer

what do you think is the real reason he's not talking about it today?

in march 79 senators voted to kill one of the law's central taxes

Senate passes bill to repeal medical device tax - Boston.com

and why do congressmen and women want out?

Lawmakers, aides may get Obamacare exemption - POLITICO

bumps in the road or huge train wreck?

today, another deadline deferred:

Under President Obama’s 2010 health law, the government officials in charge of keeping Medicaid afloat have until Tuesday to report whether costs for the fiscally foundering program will exceed expectations.

But they won’t have anywhere to send their report.

That’s because the Independent Payment Advisory Board – perhaps the most controversial entity created under Obama’s law – still doesn’t exist.

This 15-member board, denounced by critics as a “death panel,” is tasked under the law with determining which patients ought to receive which treatments and whether taxes ought to be raised to finance the program.

Another Missed Deadline Ahead for Obamacare | Fox News

can you imagine senate confirmation of even one of the 15 members of ipab?
 
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Shocked. SHOCKED!!
 
Baucus authored the damn bill, and now offers up criticism on its implementation.

What a jack ass.

It was never implementable, and was always going to do far more destruction than good.
 
just ditch it and give us UHC. that's what's going to happen eventually anyway. let's just skip the slow failure and try something that might actually work.
 
This "law" is doing exactly what it was designed to do... screw things up so bad that the public will demand that politicians solve the problem.

Of course, we already know what the "solution" to the problem will be. Single payer. By the way things are scheduled to be implemented, I'm guessing that by the summer of 2014 the pressure will start ratcheting up for the government to do "something" to fix things and since single payer is already primed and waiting, the go ahead to launch it will happen sometime in early 2015. At this point it is the easiest "fix". It's basically that or a repeal of Obamacare and I hate to break it to you but Obamacare ain't getting repealed. That boat sailed the day John Roberts decided that it was a tax and basically came right out and said that the American people could decide for themselves what the fate of Obamacare would be during the 2012 election. Guess what? The people chose.

Right or wrong this is where we're headed.
 
just ditch it and give us UHC. that's what's going to happen eventually anyway. let's just skip the slow failure and try something that might actually work.

Oh yeah, after Obamacare....UHC will REALLY REALLY sell.
 
Oh yeah, after Obamacare....UHC will REALLY REALLY sell.

that's my opinion. the PPACA will bring out the worst in insurance companies. they'll sell cut rate safe auto-type policies that don't really cover anything, and employers will start balking at providing coverage. eventually we'll tire of being the only first world country in which it's possible to go bankrupt just because you got sick. medicare for all will start looking a lot better at that point.
 
that's my opinion. the PPACA will bring out the worst in insurance companies. they'll
sell cut rate safe auto-type policies that don't really cover anything, and employers will start balking at providing coverage. eventually we'll tire of being the only first world country in which it's possible to go bankrupt just because you got sick. medicare for all will start looking a lot better at that point.

Instant UHC for 350 million people plus illegals when wer'e currently having to borrow money from our own Central Bank to pay for a current rising dependent class ?

It would be the nail in the coffin of a economy that currently is on life support BECAUSE of ObamaCare and the tax increases and mandates within.

I would venture that our economy would devolve down into some central american banana republic underground type of affair.

Tijuana on steroids.

This Countries gone to hell in a handbasket under Obama.
 
just ditch it and give us UHC. that's what's going to happen eventually anyway. let's just skip the slow failure and try something that might actually work.

I'm a proponent of UHC and even I don't know if implementation in the USA Is actually possible...

I just can't see how it can be done.
 
I'm a proponent of UHC and even I don't know if implementation in the USA Is actually possible...

I just can't see how it can be done.

probably in the most inefficient way possible : more and more people get kicked off of employer-provided plans and end up on medicaid (or uninsured and unable to pay for care.) eventually, the percentage of medicaid recipients gets high enough that we decide that it would be better to have single payer.
 
Instant UHC for 350 million people plus illegals when wer'e currently having to borrow money from our own Central Bank to pay for a current rising dependent class ?

It would be the nail in the coffin of a economy that currently is on life support BECAUSE of ObamaCare and the tax increases and mandates within.

I would venture that our economy would devolve down into some central american banana republic underground type of affair.

Tijuana on steroids.

This Countries gone to hell in a handbasket under Obama.

UHC does not equal free health care for everybody.
 
probably in the most inefficient way possible : more and more people get kicked off of employer-provided plans and end up on medicaid (or uninsured and unable to pay for care.) eventually, the percentage of medicaid recipients gets high enough that we decide that it would be better to have single payer.

One thing is certain. More money will be spent on the bureaucracy then will be directed to the doctor and patient.
 
UHC does not equal free health care for everybody.

Regardless, it foolishly places a massive burden on a Country that's currently borrowing from it's central bank just to pay off the increasing dependent class. And at a time when the US is experiencing near record levels of obesity, and the heath problems that come with being obese.

It can't be paid for, not without raising taxes to levels that would cause economic chaos. I would say raising taxes to levels that stop growth but since growth has stopped ( no Libs. borrowing, printing or taking money out of the economy and then putting it back in is NOT "growth" ) a massive new entitlement unleashed by a Govt that's apathetic to it's citizens pain would just cause a full on collapse.

You think the private sector is sitting on their money now, implement UHC and wait and see.
 
just ditch it and give us UHC. that's what's going to happen eventually anyway. let's just skip the slow failure and try something that might actually work.

Exactly. The wingnuts are chortling but PPACA's failure will bring us to universal health care. Then America will have the last laugh.
 
Exactly. The wingnuts are chortling but PPACA's failure will bring us to
universal health care. Then America will have the last laugh.

I'm laughing but it's not at the idea of UHC.

I'm laughing because there are actually people out there who think a Country that's currently securitizing the majority of their debt with their own CENTRAL BANK could enact UHC successfully.
 
I'm laughing but it's not at the idea of UHC.

I'm laughing because there are actually people out there who think a Country that's currently securitizing the majority of their debt with their own CENTRAL BANK could enact UHC successfully.

Really? Why's that? What's your point?
 
Regardless, it foolishly places a massive burden on a Country that's currently borrowing from it's central bank just to pay off the increasing dependent class. And at a time when the US is experiencing near record levels of obesity, and the heath problems that come with being obese.

It can't be paid for, not without raising taxes to levels that would cause economic chaos. I would say raising taxes to levels that stop growth but since growth has stopped ( no Libs. borrowing, printing or taking money out of the economy and then putting it back in is NOT "growth" ) a massive new entitlement unleashed by a Govt that's apathetic to it's citizens pain would just cause a full on collapse.

You think the private sector is sitting on their money now, implement UHC and wait and see.

Quite apart from the massive debt, where taxes are going only to pay the interest and not the principle, the baby boomers are now retiring and expecting to be looked after with pensions and 'free' health care. Will the succeeding generation be willing to pay for all of this, look after the debt, and support themselves in the lifestyles they expect? I really doubt it.
Look for massive inflation or default.
 
Really? Why's that? What's your point?

The point being that it should be painfully obvious to anyone UHC would bankrupt us....seeing how we're already broke.

Read Grants response.
 
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