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Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Says

Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

Thats a pretty stupid comment. Care to offer ANY indicator where I have not been appropriately critical of the Bush administration? Or for that matter supportive of several of Obamas terror responses?

Well, if you want an intelligent comment, give one. Stupid comments beget stupid comments.
 
Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

It's not actually, as I wasn't attacking the article, but rather the idea people shouldn't be allowed to question. Good try though, I'm sure it made you feel good when you typed it.

Yes, thanks to "Kerry noted that administration officials have testified at eight hearings on Benghazi, provided 20 briefings on the subject and turned over to Congress some 25,000 documents related to the killings."

Americans were killed. It was awful. But let's worry more about doing what needs to be done to prevent it from happening again.

Just what EXACTLY do you think happens in these situations? Do you think the State Department sat on their hands for 3 months and only received one transmission which said there only place which could be attacked on September 11th was Benghazi and then said, "Nah, I don't care"? You know as well as I do these people likely sift through thousands of intelligence pieces, and you know as well as I do our law enforcement prevents many many would be attackers. Yes, sometimes things get missed and it's tragic when it happens. But I think things need to be kept in proper perspective.

But this story isn't about any of that. This story is not about finding ways to better protect Americans. This story is just another way to try and fan the flames of Obama hate, because Republican voters want to believe there's a chance to remove the Democrat from office with disgrace. That's what this is.
You cant fix what was ****ed up til you know who ****ed up, how, and why. And right now...we know precisely jack and dammit about any of the details as to who what and why. Even Hillary said "some people in the state department" recieved memos, recieved requests, participated in reports, particopated in decision making processes". Some people...but doesnt know who...and cant say what.

Common theme in the current administration. "It wasnt me..."
 
Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

You cant fix what was ****ed up til you know who ****ed up, how, and why. And right now...we know precisely jack and dammit about any of the details as to who what and why. Even Hillary said "some people in the state department" recieved memos, recieved requests, participated in reports, particopated in decision making processes". Some people...but doesnt know who...and cant say what.

Common theme in the current administration. "It wasnt me..."

You're right that we don't know what happened. That hardly makes it a smoking gun if we don't know.
 
Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

And the ones that ignored the warnings about 9/11/01.

There wasn't suffiicient evidence to take action in any of these cases. But don't let that stop you from partisan attacks.

I suppose that attempt on the British ambassador's life and their subsequent removal of him for Libya wasn't a big enough red flag.
 
Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

I suppose that attempt on the British ambassador's life and their subsequent removal of him for Libya wasn't a big enough red flag.

Not really, no. That doesn't mean there would be an attack on the consulate in Benghazi. 2+2 =/= 5.
 
Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

It's not actually, as I wasn't attacking the article, but rather the idea people shouldn't be allowed to question. Good try though, I'm sure it made you feel good when you typed it.

You actually were attacking the source of the article and not the content thereof.
And, yes. I made a fondue in my short typing that. Is that a bad thing?
 
Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

Well, if you want an intelligent comment, give one. Stupid comments beget stupid comments.
I did. You are doing your typical blind ignore duck and cover for the administration and your oh so clever counter response was I did the same with the Bush administration. And all you have to do now is offer some sort of proof I was less than critical of Bush. Considering I left the GOP over Bush's lack of fiscal responsibility and have been pretty open about foreign policy failures including (and especially) post war ops in both Afghanistan and Iraq that have prolonged our presence there and cost lives...good luck. Or better yet...stick with your stellar debate tactics.
 
Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

Not surprised, but get ready for the bots to attack everything from the source, to ultimately, whistleblowers themselves...

You mean like this?

liberal outlets like HuffPo, and MSNBC
 
Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

I did. You are doing your typical blind ignore duck and cover for the administration and your oh so clever counter response was I did the same with the Bush administration. And all you have to do now is offer some sort of proof I was less than critical of Bush. Considering I left the GOP over Bush's lack of fiscal responsibility and have been pretty open about foreign policy failures including (and especially) post war ops in both Afghanistan and Iraq that have prolonged our presence there and cost lives...good luck. Or better yet...stick with your stellar debate tactics.

Prove you weren't? Can't prove a negative. Thought you knew that.
 
Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

You're right that we don't know what happened. That hardly makes it a smoking gun if we don't know.
So, if nobody tells you that you have the flu, you must be healthy. No wonder health care is so expensive. We simply must tell the doctors to quit telling people they're sick.
 
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Not really, no. That doesn't mean there would be an attack on the consulate in Benghazi. 2+2 =/= 5.

And the IED that was used at our consulate's front gate five days before the attack on the British Ambassador? Just some kids having fun?
 
Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

It's not actually, as I wasn't attacking the
article, but rather the idea people shouldn't be allowed to question. Good try though, I'm sure it made you feel good when you typed it.

Yes, thanks to "Kerry noted that administration officials have testified at eight hearings on Benghazi, provided 20 briefings on the subject and turned over to Congress some 25,000 documents related to the killings."

Americans were killed. It was awful. But let's worry more about doing what needs to be done to prevent it from happening again.

Just what EXACTLY do you think happens in these situations? Do you think the State Department sat on their hands for 3 months and only received one transmission which said the only place which could be attacked on September 11th was Benghazi and then said, "Nah, I don't care"? You know as well as I do these people likely sift through thousands of intelligence pieces, and you know as well as I do our law enforcement prevents many many would be attackers. Yes, sometimes things get missed and it's tragic when it happens. But I think things need to be kept in proper perspective.

But this story isn't about any of that. This story is not about finding ways to better protect Americans. This story is just another way to try and fan the flames of Obama hate, because Republican voters want to believe there's a chance to remove the Democrat from office with disgrace. That's what this is.

No, its about finding out who was responzible for ignoring their request for more security, for ignoring the danger of keeping the Ambasador there, after a hole was blown in their compound wall and for the lies about the You-Tube Video.

.....Hillary to the Father of the Dead Seal days after the attack..." We're going to arrest and prosecute " the You-Tube Director.

Not the Terrorist, that Patreas testified they knew almost immediately was responsible, but.....a YouTube Director.."

Aren't you folks getting tired of trying to defend dirt bags and scum of the earth liars ?
 
Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

You're right that we don't know what happened. That hardly makes it a smoking gun if we don't know.
No...it makes it at least extraordinarily incompetent, absolutely neglectful, and borderline criminal THAT we still dont know and that no one has bothered to find out. but that has been this administrations standard. Gosh...we dont know WHO ****ed up. It wasnt me. I didnt know. Did you know? Gosh no...heck...Why should I know? Im just in charge of the State Department, DoJ, WH. Why should I know who is conducting international operations under my watch?
 
Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

So, if nobody tells you that you have the flu, you must be healthy. No wonder health care is so expensive. We simply must tell the doctors to quit telling people they're sick.

No, it means that if you have the sniffles, it doesn't mean you have a fatal disease.

We don't have all the facts, that doesn't mean crucifixions are in order.
 
Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

Prove you weren't? Can't prove a negative. Thought you knew that.
And yet...you made the positive assertion. Which means you just made a stupid comment. Got it.
 
Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

And the IED that was used at our consulate's front gate five days before
the attack on the British Ambassador? Just some kids having fun?

No that was right wing Tea Party Christian Extremist.

They did that.
 
Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

No that was right wing Tea Party Christian Extremist.

They did that.

Strawman in absence of something useful to say. Got it.
 
Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

Well, it seems clear to me that you are well aware of the well deserved reputation of your source. Just because you quote the biggest liar in the business and predict that someone is going to say that you cannot rely on their information does not make what they said true. However, you are quite astute in recognizing the obvious that faux news is a bunch of liars who no one with a brain trusts.

He didn't quote Dan Rather.
 
Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

Well, it seems clear to me that you are well aware of the well deserved reputation of your source. Just because you quote the biggest liar in the business and predict that someone is going to say that you cannot rely on their information does not make what they said true. However, you are quite astute in recognizing the obvious that faux news is a bunch of liars who no one with a brain trusts.

Please provide your proof that Fox News regularly lies. If you can't tell the difference between their hard news segments and their infotainment, that's on you.
 
Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

No, it means that if you have the sniffles, it doesn't mean you have a fatal disease.

We don't have all the facts, that doesn't mean crucifixions are in order.
My point was that lack of knowledge is no reason to think everything is fine. Part of the reason we don't have all the facts is that the current administration has not been forthcoming with it. There may be some reasons why the administration doesn't want to reveal the whole enchilada, and some of them may be understandable. But whatever caused the Ambassador to be in Benghazi aside, our presence there was compromised and the Ambassador along with others were killed. We want to know why they died. It's pretty simple, and not a witch hunt. The more the administration stonewalls, the more suspicious I am that there be witches involved.
 
Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

Strawman in absence of something useful to say. Got it.

How about that intelligence reports from both our own and other intelligence agencies that Benghazi was becoming a hot bed of militant activities?
It even got so bad that the militants held the "First Annual Conference of Supporters of Shariah" in Benghazi in June of 2012.
That right there would be cause to increase security. Not decrease it.
 
Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

Strawman in absence of something useful to say. Got it.


The only thing "useful" to you guys, as you defend the scum of the earth politicians you vote for, as they put their political carreers above the lives of Americans is for everyone to "STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS ".

Just "let it go". "We have more important things to deal with", ....like making sure "it never happens again".

Well you guys couldn't even accomplish that as two Islamo-terroist , one who was on the FBIs watch list succesfully committed a terrorist attack on American soil.

Sorry, we're not going to shut up.

The people that actually are responsible for the Benghazzi attack, not the Obama and Hillary lie of the You Tube Guy, but the actual terrorist, are still at large, and you guys are still attacking the source to cover up your low life administration.
 
Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

No...it makes it at least extraordinarily incompetent, absolutely neglectful, and borderline criminal THAT we still dont know and that no one has bothered to find out. but that has been this administrations standard. Gosh...we dont know WHO ****ed up. It wasnt me. I didnt know. Did you know? Gosh no...heck...Why should I know? Im just in charge of the State Department, DoJ, WH. Why should I know who is conducting international operations under my watch?

Well, I agree that Obama has acted much like the administrations of the past. But the investigations so far have not turned up much evidence. That doesn't stop people from deciding that this is evidence of some big horrible thing.
 
Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

How about that intelligence reports from both our own and other intelligence agencies that Benghazi was becoming a hot bed of militant activities?
It even got so bad that the militants held the "First Annual Conference of Supporters of Shariah" in Benghazi in June of 2012.
That right there would be cause to increase security. Not decrease it.


Really, somebody said that the TP was responsible for Benghazi? Interesting....

That's the strawman I was talking about.
 
Re: Obama Administration Officials Threatened Whistle-Blowers On Benghazi, Lawyer Say

Obama administration officials threatened whistle-blowers on Benghazi, lawyer says | Fox News

for something that, as then secretary of state hillary suggested, doesn't make any difference, there sure is a lot of angst

why all the hiding?

Lawmakers demand access to survivors injured in Benghazi attack | Fox News

some of the benghazi survivors seem to have suffered some severe injuries---news to you

stay tuned:

Rep. Trey Gowdy: Benghazi hearings 'coming quickly' - Washington Times

an awful lot of questions, no?

why all the warnings ignored, why no military response, why the blaming of the video, why the claim that aq was on the run, why has no one been held responsible?

why did the president go to bed?

Sean Smith's mom: Obama didn't follow up on personal promises

and how could anyone in the white house suggest that none of it makes any difference?

Neither arm of the Republocrats likes whistle blowers; but we shold have STRONG oversight on the government. Not limited to Obama, but certainly including him. More politicians need to end up in prison.
 
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