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O'Connor questions court's decision to take Bush v. Gore

disneydude said:
No...actually, if you read what I wrote, I said we will never know for sure....however, most every independent study done after the 2000 election showed Gore actually had more votes in Florida and thus, should have won the election. Thats pretty close to "for sure".
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You wrote Gore was "elected".

Post your independent studies.

It's pretty tough to post we will NEVER know for sure, and then claim you know.

But hey, 12+ years and counting. It's all good.
 
disneydude said:
No...actually, if you read what I wrote, I said we will never know for sure....however, most every independent study done after the 2000 election showed Gore actually had more votes in Florida and thus, should have won the election. Thats pretty close to "for sure".
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Oh for God's sake! Obama has been President for 5 years now!!!! Gore lost, get over it!
 
ocean515 said:
:lamo

:lamo

"Although we will never know for sure..."

Yet, you know for sure...

:sinking:
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Good evening, Ocean515. :2wave:

After so many years, and how many unbiased recounts, there are some that still don't believe the truth? If Gore had managed to win his home State, what happened elsewhere would not have mattered. Why do they have a problem remembering that fact? Amazing! :shock:
 
disneydude said:
No...actually, if you read what I wrote, I said we will never know for sure....however, most every independent study done after the 2000 election showed Gore actually had more votes in Florida and thus, should have won the election. Thats pretty close to "for sure".
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Most independent studies showed the opposite... Gore lost.
 
Taylor said:
Most independent studies showed the opposite... Gore lost.
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Yeah, but they don't post those at Truthout or Democratic Underground so most Gore shippers haven't seen them.
 
what an incredibly lousy election that was. i'm ashamed to admit that i voted for either of them.
 
Helix said:
what an incredibly lousy election that was. i'm ashamed to admit that i voted for either of them.
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One of the best and truest posts ever. Thanks Helix.
 
one of the sole highlights of that election :



my only other positive memory is that i tossed an oreo at the tv during the presidential debate from across the room and managed to hit Al Gore. the viewing party at my house got a good laugh out of that.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Had the Supreme Court not taken up the case, you potentially would have had the State Supreme Court in Florida deciding the Presidential election instead. Would that have been more acceptible? Would it not have been debated for years to come?

People on the country's Supreme Court should not be afraid of controversy. It seems Justice O'Connor was wise to resign before her weakness clouded her judgement.
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Wrong. The Florida courts could only decide the vote in Fla.
 
sangha said:
Wrong. The Florida courts could only decide the vote in Fla.
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Silly game - I'm not playing - some of us actually need a point of interest to enter into debate - we're not interested in challenging the absurdity of those wishing attention.
 
disneydude said:
No....Unlike, Bush....Obama got more votes than Romney. That's what happens when you actually count the votes.
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You don't know what you're talking about.
 
disneydude said:
Actually....you are incorrect. Although we will never know for sure, most independent studies showed that if all of the votes would have been counted, Gore would have won Florida and thus the election.
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More fantasy on your part: FactCheck.org : The Florida Recount of 2000. This confirms what I wrote about Gore losing because he tried to have ballots within Florida being held to varying standards based upon how much it would have presumably helped him. Having different standards in a state election is a clear violation of the 14th Amendment. That's what the Supreme Court decided.

You may not like that fact, but it is the fact. Now you can finally ask for your refund to the Albert A Gore Jr. Presidential Library Foundation.
 
disneydude said:
Check out factcheck.org. That should teach you a little on the subject.
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Perhaps YOU should check out factcheck.org - because you're the one in need of the education.

"According to a massive months-long study commissioned by eight news organizations in 2001, George W. Bush probably still would have won even if the U.S. Supreme Court had allowed a limited statewide recount to go forward as ordered by Florida’s highest court.

Bush also probably would have won had the state conducted the limited recount of only four heavily Democratic counties that Al Gore asked for, the study found."
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Add to that the fact that Bush won the initial vote, the Florida machine recount vote, the vote after all absentee ballots were counted, the vote after the initial Florida Supreme Court recount deadline expired, and was ahead in the extended recount up until halted by the Supreme Court - and it becomes quite clear how absurd your "Gore won the election" claim is.
 
Taylor said:
Perhaps YOU should check out factcheck.org - because you're the one in need of the education.




Add to that the fact that Bush won the initial vote, the Florida machine recount vote, the vote after all absentee ballots were counted, the vote after the initial Florida Supreme Court recount deadline expired, and was ahead in the extended recount up until halted by the Supreme Court - and it becomes quite clear how absurd your "Gore won the election" claim is.
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Nice cafeteria selection there. Go back and reread what I wrote and what you wrote. The bottom line is that if the recounts were limited, then Yes, Gore probably would not have prevailed...however, if an actual recount of all the votes were done, Gore likely would have won the election.

GWB's "election" will always have an asterisk by it in the annuals of history....and this nation paid dearly for the SCOTUS interfering in our election process which is why O'Connor regrets her decision in that case.
 
disneydude said:
Nice cafeteria selection there. Go back and reread what I wrote and what you wrote. The bottom line is that if the recounts were limited, then Yes, Gore probably would not have prevailed...however, if an actual recount of all the votes were done, Gore likely would have won the election.
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In other words, "if a recount of the sort that nobody asked for - and which used methods deemed unconstitutional by a 7-2 vote of the SCOTUS - been carried out, Gore might have overcome Bush by 60-120 votes out of 6 million, according to one study."

Thanks for playing, now run along.
 
j-mac said:
Are you kidding me here? My goodness, how long will some people allow their BDS to go untreated?
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Not to mention their inability to see what a crook and scumbag ALGORE was and has become. He duped more than a few unsuspecting Leftists out a millions.
 
Taylor said:
In other words, "if a recount of the sort that nobody asked for - and which used methods deemed unconstitutional by a 7-2 vote of the SCOTUS - been carried out, Gore might have overcome Bush by 60-120 votes out of 6 million, according to one study."

Thanks for playing, now run along.
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LOL.....wow. I love your selectivity. The reality is.....if the SCOTUS had not gotten involved and Gore would have been able to trigger a recount of the entire state, the fiasco known as GWB most likely would have never happened. Which is why O'Connor's regret about the Court appointing a President speaks volumes. Hopefully it is a lesson that we won't repeat in the future. Let the Constitutional process play out...there was no need to rush to judgement and the consequences speak for themselves.
 
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