1.) right to marriage :shrug: some state supreme courts in the US have already decided when put to the task LMAO
yes i knew this thread is about paris, and as their government ruled.
2.) no because its not under attack nor is it in danger of being not preserved. From my understanding striaht marriage is still legal right? nobody is trying to take that away right? then its fine its not in danger and doesnt need preserved because it already exists LOL
theres ZERO force because they dont have to participate in gay marriage LMAO assuming otherwise is just disingenuous.
2a.) you are welcome to that opinion but you have not facts to support it and court ruling in the US already disagree with you
3.) so make up your mind then LOL you made the statement not me LOL glad you clarified.
5.) no it doesn't fail me because homosexuality is not illegal
5a.) WRONG because you would have to strip away many rights to make rape legal LOL
so no "bam" and whether legal or not a victim and force would still be present lol
5b.) no it doesnt if you are an honest adult and understand reality, rights, freedoms liberties and what rape is, a minor is, force is lOL not even CLOSE to the same unless one is totally dishonest LOL
5c.) see above no fail is present, you lose LOL
7.) see another fail because i didnt label you on how uneducated you are in general so please stop lying, you could have 15 degress, on this topic you are uneducated, Im uneducated on many topics, brain surgery, engine rebuilding etc
so let me know when your appeal to emotion rant and strawman is over LMAO tell me that cool line about who looks bad again? LMAO
or continue to lie and make things up, the choose is yours really
8.) nice try but this already failed when i said minorities i was talking about minorities and women was i not and the rights they already GAINED so it was obvious to honest people who i meant Nice back pedal though but it fails LMAO
9.) 100% wrong because facts and state supreme court justices already disagree with you :laughat:
cool line though LOL
my "work" is already done
if you want an HONEST and OBJECTIVE conversation, because i can already tell after that loss if you even response its gong to be emotional ranting all over the place LOL, take deep breaths and feel free to ask me any questions you want. Ill gladly answer
HONEST questions and i will gladly answer them, that way you wont have to assume and make stuff up about my stance.
Nicely done, I would not have expected anything less.
That being said…we have differing views, yet…
1. Noticed the “some”. Some state supreme courts.
Very little some… almost lonesome. Almost none, comparatively.
Should, sorry to have to say, stay that way. What gave credibility in the eyes of everyone, EVERYONE, African Americans fought Civil Rights pretty much straight up, proud and righteous, honestly righteous. Those who had never had to take a side, just comfortable, living, lettin be, gettin along, suddenly chanced to see it starkly, for what it was,,, rebelled against that … that thick stinky fertilizer, surface deep but rich soiled there in the South.
In contrast, the same sex marriage movement....
Battles in courts, sometimes a legislature, removed from the people, just like France [tangentially] … where there are not the votes for it, it de facto won’t happen. If you try to force, de jure, you often slow it down. People have to accept willingly, people in this country have come miles and miles on the whole Gay issue. But when pushed hard, like by a salesman at a car dealership, we tend to shy in the other direction.
We’ve been really tolerant, despite conflicting with most’s faith. Should be appreciated, acknowledged, honored.
There are times to draw lines.
Enough already
2. Don’t really keep either eye pealed on Europe I am guessing? Can’t envision the coming Cassandra, cannot see that old locomotive puffing for the wooden bridge, bridge over the deep gash of a mountain pass. Look closer, wooden spars falling away as we watch, bridge collapsing as the train approaches... Europe these days.
This isn’t about Europe. We can sort of do a real time autopsy before the fact. Your opinion about European society, think its strong? Strong enough? Wasn’t just this current crisis though, unhappily for liberals, its more just plain liberal, too liberal, policy in general. Yes, my opinion, with points, solid. This post is already too long, however.
Also apropos, the old adage, watch what you ask for, you might just get it. Europe got it, and it is contagious.
What y’all don’t seem to get is that gay movement has not been a, no pun intended either time, straight on assault as stated previously. Lots of short term termiting, lacing the entire structure upon which we have built a strong nation… done with many hardly even realizing it…just like Europe, starting much earlier, hit much harder.
2a. A Court case ruling huh? One? What about, what was the rulling…?? see what you did, now I’m on the edge of my seat. Soooo not convincing tho, besides, you had already made some head feints that direction, straw man called.
3. Yes, I did clarify, you understand the subtlety. Rarely used violence, on occasion, ends the job. Not a big advocate, but when used…hard and fast. Make it hurt so bad others won’t try, unless just stupid suicidal. Dance back Ali like, untouched if possible.
4. Nearly all the gay culture WAS criminal. See, all those other minority groups you hesitate to support, currently illegal, too. Easily changed, assisted by this, those and many leagues of others. Then unhindered, a now unstoppable force no longer meeting an immovable object…
Society crumbles, a tide slicing though sand castles.
5. Stripping away/adding special rights, whichever way necessary for certain groups wanting... whatever. Basis upon which to deny them? After? None. Hey, you gave that to same sex folks, cries of discrimination ring from all sides [and they would be right]… so how legally to stop much of anything after? You won’t be able.
Society crumble crumble crumbling.
Interesting thought experiment. If rape were made legal, how long would it be before people stopped struggling against? Let’s say, with just the right backing, or packing, a court or two, or the courts in general, started ruling in their favor, maybe a legislature somewhere or three joined… The national legislature bonded with them, passed the law… but the people were against it… then what?
Anybody see France in this frame?
All is uncomfortable even to think about, suffice to say, could come to pass, doubting it ostensibly, sure, seems too repugnant. See, even a similar past. Surely cannot be certain, not at all certain it wouldn’t.
6. Give ya slack on this one too, cause you are not really incorrect, you were just slinging so parameters were in order.
7. Sorry, just not the case… but again, its hardly enough to quibble over.
8. Already dealt with this continued fail…
Abigail Garner’s Families Like Mine: Children of Gay Parents Tell It Like It Is
