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Again, there is no denying that a person or org can only "win" if they actually achieve their goal.

False. They win if we fail to achieve ours.
 
Once again, you are wrong.

Al Queda has listed a number of reasons for fighting us, including our support for Israel.

And the other nations who have been attacked were attacked because of their "meddling" in the Mid East.

What about the Balkans ? Was Bosnia meddling in the Middle East or are supporters of Israel ?
 
No. You need to educate yourself about the religion. They believe that Islam needs to rule the world for so many years in order for the Mahdi to return. This isn't a political thing for radical Islams - it's religious. It's about the "end days" in their religion.

Mahdi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




Your own link shows that their goal is to establish a caliphate
 
And the evidence that they have received training has been out for a while, but I understand why you won't admit that

I'd not seen anything about them having training. I've only seen the two articles presented in this thread, and that after I noted they had no training.
 
False. They win if we fail to achieve ours.

Our goal was catching them

We succeeded. They failed

But you did a fine job of running away from your claim that they won because they achieved their goal of creating terror. Now, winning is something completely different than what you originally claimed.
 
It's already been posted

Now please name one terrorist who's goal was merely to "create terror"?

You misunderstand. I did not claimed their goal was "merely" to create terror. I claimed that their goal (a goal) was to create terror. Do you deny that one of their goals was to create terror?
 
I'd not seen anything about them having training. I've only seen the two articles presented in this thread, and that after I noted they had no training.

Curing your ignorance about this matter is of no interest to me.
 
You misunderstand. I did not claimed their goal was "merely" to create terror. I claimed that their goal (a goal) was to create terror. Do you deny that one of their goals was to create terror?

Yes, I deny that creating terror was a "goal". It is merely a means to an end

Calling it a goal is like saying that "shooting guns" is a goal of war.
 
Your own link shows that their goal is to establish a caliphate

Therefore, they don't just want to be left alone. They want Islam to dominate the world.
 
Yes, I did. It confirmed what I said

No, it didn't. They want to destroy AMERICA and BRITAIN (his words, not mine). It's not just about the Middle East. They want to dominate THE WORLD. You see?
 
Here's another....

 
Our goal was catching them

That's not the only goal. Another goal is also to respond to terrorism while destroying our own freedom as little as possible and without becoming victims of terrorism in allowing it to cause overreactions. See: most of TSA, FICA and the Patriot Act. See: Gitmo. See: tumbleweeds in Boston because of 2 guys with a few little bombs.
 
No, it didn't. They want to destroy AMERICA and BRITAIN (his words, not mine). It's not just about the Middle East. They want to dominate THE WORLD. You see?

Because, in their opinion, American and Britain stand in the way of their establishing the caliphate.

And they say nothing about dominating the world. Your own link shows that Islam won't dominate the world until the return of the Madhi (which is similar to Christian beliefs concerning the 2nd coming of Christ)
 
Yes, I'm being reasonable because I expect that it does no one any good to claim the terrorists won because they weren't sheltering in place and ran into two desperate murders who then killed them.

But I don't even really understand the second half of your sentence. You think that we need to die to terrorists to keep them from winning? That doesn't make sense. Thus, I just addressed the first part.

Allow me to clarify. Your standard is that the terrorists won, because the city was shut down, to protect citizens from running into these two men, proven to be deadly and dangerous. Then it's not winning when they kill more people because those people weren't told to stay safely indoors. That senseless bravado to me. Innocents should not be unknowingly placed in danger for a head game.
 
That's not the only goal. Another goal is also to respond to terrorism while destroying our own freedom as little as possible and without becoming victims of terrorism in allowing it to cause overreactions. See: most of TSA, FICA and the Patriot Act. See: Gitmo. See: tumbleweeds in Boston because of 2 guys with a few little bombs.

And now you continue to move the goalposts; a sure sign that even you know how badly your losing

You said that they won because they shut down the city. Now you're going on and on about destroying freedom, blah, blah blah

You wouldn't have to run away from your own words like you're doing here if you just admitted that your claim that they "won" was wrong.
 
Because, in their opinion, American and Britain stand in the way of their establishing the caliphate.

Yes, exactly.

And they say nothing about dominating the world.

Then you're either deaf or don't want to hear it.

Your own link shows that Islam won't dominate the world until the return of the Madhi (which is similar to Christian beliefs concerning the 2nd coming of Christ)

They need to establish worldwide Islam so that the Mahdi CAN rule over them. They believe he won't return until Islam dominates the world. Then he'll return and rule over them for however many years.
 
Allow me to clarify. Your standard is that the terrorists won, because the city was shut down, to protect citizens from running into these two men, proven to be deadly and dangerous. Then it's not winning when they kill more people because those people weren't told to stay safely indoors. That senseless bravado to me. Innocents should not be unknowingly placed in danger for a head game.

I believe the terrorists win anytime we overreact and thus play into their game of terror. As mentioned above, see also: TSA, FISA, Patriot Act, Gitmo, etc.
 
tl; dr

I gave you your shot. You blew. I'm not going to waste any more time on your ridiculous misinterpretations of videos

Yeah, there's no point in debating with you - someone who refuses to hear and see what is right in front of him. Ciao.
 
And now you continue to move the goalposts; a sure sign that even you know how badly your losing

You said that they won because they shut down the city. Now you're going on and on about destroying freedom, blah, blah blah

You wouldn't have to run away from your own words like you're doing here if you just admitted that your claim that they "won" was wrong.

All you have done is falsely portray my claims and put words in my mouth. I'm done correcting you. I'm just gonna let you invent whatever you want. Have fun.
 
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