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apdst said:
I'm not a bit shocked. There are Muslims all over the world that hate Americans.
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Chechens really have no reason to hate the States though. If they're going to bomb anywhere, I'd expect it to be Moscow.
 
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Their uncle on CNN is PISSED. He told the suspect to "turn himself and ask for forgiveness". He said that he's tarnishing the Chechen name. He said that the reason he thinks they attacked the marathon was because they were "losers" who essentially could not assimilate and build lives for themselves. He said he wants to "kneel in front of" the victims' families to share their grief and ask for forgiveness. He was also certain to say that this shouldn't be blamed on Islam or Chechnya.
 
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ThePlayDrive said:
Not a single person in this thread has made excuses for anyone. This entire thread, until very recently, has been about gathering information with some casual speculation.
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You can't make questionable comments,


ThePlayDrive said:
Hell, when you're anybody who feels a strong sense of alienation, it's easy for that to happen to varying degrees.
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and then get mad when those comments are challenged.
 
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rocket88 said:
I'm hearing that the younger brother became a naturalized citizen of the US, and the family has been living in MA for a number of years (at least 8). I'll have to try to source it later when Ilm not on my phone.
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Heard same from Robin Young with NPR this morning, her son went to high school with the younger suspect and was fairly good friends with him, he'd been in the states certainly more than a single year.
 
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apdst said:
You can't make questionable comments,

and then get mad when those comments are challenged.
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Meh, challenging is fine. I was challenged several times in this thread earlier and was fine it with because nobody put words in my mouth or copped an attitude. But it's all good. I just need to adjust to the change in attitude that this thread has taken.
 
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ThePlayDrive said:
Their uncle on CNN is PISSED. He told the suspect to "turn himself and ask for forgiveness". He said that he's tarnishing the Chechen name. He said that the reason he thinks they attacked the marathon was because they were "losers" who essentially could not assimilate and build lives for themselves. He said he wants to "kneel in front of" the victims' families to share their grief and ask for forgiveness. He was also certain to say that this shouldn't be blamed on Islam or Chechnya.
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I'm impressed with Uncle Ruslan's attitude toward all this.

“He deserved his. He absolutely deserved his,” Tsarni said. “They do not deserve to live on this earth.”


Bombing Suspects’ Uncle: They Do Not Deserve To Live On This Earth « CBS Boston
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Juiposa said:
Chechens really have no reason to hate the States though. If they're going to bomb anywhere, I'd expect it to be Moscow.
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Well, the Afghans had no reason to hate the US either.
 
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Juiposa said:
No where in that article does it mention Chechens targeting the United States. Al-Queada is helping the Chechen versus Russia.
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But, it does show a connection between Chechn extremists and AQ. Do the math. Events of late purdy much prove you wrong.
 
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apdst said:
I'm impressed with Uncle Ruslan's attitude toward all this.
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I'm not so much impressed as I just feel for the guy. His nephews just attacked innocent people which means that not only are they (obviously) affecting the victims of the attack, but they are also hurting their family, their religion and their homeland who now have to deal with being demonized for their actions. His whole world has been turned around in a matter of days. I can't imagine. I guess I am somewhat impressed that he's been able to articulate his thoughts so soon and been willing to denounce his family members' actions when, before today, he thought of them just as his nephews.
 
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jmotivator said:
Well, the Afghans had no reason to hate the US either.
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Afghans as a majority don't, but the Taliban certainly do.
 
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EnigmaO01 said:
It's easy to judge sitting safe at home with no bullets or bombs to deal with.
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Yes it is easy to judge sitting at home. However do note that my judgement is born of experience baptized by fire.
 
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ThePlayDrive said:
I'm not so much impressed as I just feel for the guy. His nephews just attacked innocent people which means that not only are they (obviously) affecting the victims of the attack, but they are also hurting their family, their religion and their homeland who now have to deal with being demonized for their actions. His whole world has been turned around in a matter of days. I can't imagine. I guess I am somewhat impressed that he's been able to articulate his thoughts so soon and been willing to denounce his family members' actions when, before today, he thought of them just as his nephews.
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I'm impressed that he isn't making excuses, like we see so many times. He recognizes that they committed a horrific act and believes that they should pay for their crimes.
 
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apdst said:
But, it does show a connection between Chechn extremists and AQ. Do the math. Events of late purdy much prove you wrong.
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A connection and cooperation with AQ doesn't mean that they ever wanted to directly attack the US. AQ has targeted and helped causes that have NOTHING to do with the US before.
 
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Juiposa said:
A connection and cooperation with AQ doesn't mean that they ever wanted to directly attack the US. AQ has targeted and helped causes that have NOTHING to do with the US before.
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In case you haven't noticed, two Chechen Muslim terrorists attacked Americans. Again, I'm not a bit shocked.
 
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apdst said:
I'm not a bit shocked. There are Muslims all over the world that hate Americans.
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i think they have enough reason to feel so.
 
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bradwil said:
i think they have enough reason to feel so.
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Here we go, again.

Let me guess..."it's all our fault". Right?
 
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apdst said:
In case you haven't noticed, two Chechen Muslim terrorists attacked Americans. Again, I'm not a bit shocked.
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And I purport that they are not doing so in the name of the Chechen struggle. Whatever motives they had for hating the US, it isn't related to acts of other Chechen extremists.
 
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apdst said:
Here we go, again.

Let me guess..."it's all our fault". Right?
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Are you a psychic?

you are on the righ way...
 
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im still laughing at the uncle calling them losers lol
i mean thats obvious but its still funny for the uncle to say thats why he thinks thats the reason.
 
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EnigmaO01 said:
Yeah they got spooked when their pictures got plastered all over. I say they hit the 7/11 to get some cash to skip the country.
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Maybe. Maybe not. These cats strike me as fairly skilled and cool customers. There was something else most likely. Their pictures had been out for a while. These guys are said to have military experience and their Chechen. Chechens have a hard won reputation as guerilla warfare experts.
 
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Juiposa said:
And I purport that they are not doing so in the name of the Chechen struggle. Whatever motives they had for hating the US, it isn't related to acts of other Chechen extremists.
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In the name of, "The Chechen Struggle"? You're probably right and I never said tht they were. However, in the name of Islamofacists hating America? Most likely, yes.
 
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Juiposa said:
Chechens really have no reason to hate the States though. If they're going to bomb anywhere, I'd expect it to be Moscow.
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Chechens as a nationality may not have a reason, but Isamic Radicals fighting a supposed jihad do. The two may have been turned at some point but that is all conjecture at this point. In all honesty, all we have now is conjecture. I plan on waiting for actual information before I can make a true, informed decision. Anything I have at this point is opinion.
 
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