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Fair enough. Proceed.
Please note I was not directing annoyance at anyone in particular.
Fair enough. Proceed.
Please note I was not directing annoyance at anyone in particular.
Yeah, because we just throw bombs out everywhere, and we're bound to hit someone of importance if we hit everything. Hahah
Understood, but if you call an end to the current conversation you should at least continue on the one you thought should be going on. So let's do that:
It's a tough decision for police, every time, whether to release photos and enlist the public's help (with all the dangers inherent there) or continue to labor in private using resources that are trained for investigation and apprehension. The former can very definitely interfere with the later choice.
That he is, but given the limitations of humanity; he cannot be everywhere for all hours.
If that FBI van wants to sit on my street for all hours, it may. It cannot use any tech to see or hear inside my home without warrant, anything they see through open window is inadmissible less they have warrant, it should be extremely restricted from recording everything without warrant either. But if they just want to sit in that van and do nothing, then more power to them.
That level of surveillance would require a warrant. Without a warrant, or probable cause, it could be considered harrassment. Ohhhhhhhh! The lawsuit!
Neither of these two instances were the guys charged from filming.
Can you please provide link to the law in which you speak of? Something from a .gov site would be best. Not some silly blaze site.
as of now, it's not illegal to film any officer doing their job.
They are using wiretapping laws on people... read the Time article.
Police And Courts Regularly Abusing Wiretapping Laws To Arrest People For Filming Cops Misbehaving In Public Places | Techdirt
Videotaping Police Is Often Cause for Arrest - ABC News
im not going to be convinced until someone shows me the law. Until then, anyone that is supposedly "arrested for video taping" is arrested for something else. Usually for being a jackass.
and dont get me wrong, i think we should be able to record them on tape. I have no prob with this
Did I say no flashlights? Or are you just trying to be absurd to push a point you have no rational defense of?
Go away.
As opposed to what? Middle Eastern? Black? Hispanic?
No one is "relieved" that the suspects appear white.
@ what point do you not get they are arrested under wiretapping laws?
Wire tapping and video taping in public = apples and oranges.
Not according to DA's who have use wire tapping laws.. as I've shown multiple times to you..
Im still waiting for the law to be presented, but i wont hold my breath.
no, you claimed a different kind of technology allows for people to do things they otherwise couldn't do, and we can't allow this.
your critique of cameras works just as well for flashlights. the problem is, when framed that way, you see how nutty your explanation is, and you don't like it.
The rapid deployment of military personnel, in addition to local, country, state and multiple federal law enforcement agencies - and virtually declaring martial law - is concerning to me.
The rapid deployment of military personnel, in addition to local, country, state and multiple federal law enforcement agencies - and virtually declaring martial law - is concerning to me.
No, it's nothing more than dishonest argument on your part. Flash lights are fine, they do not help one see in another spectrum of light. But if you are talking IR floodlights and night vision goggles....then the police need warrant or cause. They shouldn't be allowed access to those to spy on people willy nilly.
See, my argument doesn't even say they can't have access to the tech at all, merely that they need warrant to use these search devices. Oh so nutty, huh? :roll
Cameras are fine too.
And if I own a private business, I can set up a camera and willingly give LEO access to the camera.
Your arguments are nutty. Luddite worthy even.
Cameras are fine too.
And if I own a private business, I can set up a camera and willingly give LEO access to the camera.
Your arguments are nutty. Luddite worthy even.
And pretty much all you have is "your argument is nutty" and nothing more. When you gain some amount of intellectual honesty and arguments which don't revolve around petty and pathetic insult, come back.
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