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North Korea lists terms for talks with US and S Korea

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"If the US and the South enemies... genuinely want dialogue and negotiation, they should take these steps," the defence commission said."The first step will be withdrawing the UN Security Council resolutions cooked up on ridiculous grounds," the statement said.
"Second, you need to tell the whole world that you will not get involved in any rehearsal for a nuclear war that threatens our nation. Dialogues and war games can never go together," it added.


Read more @: BBC News - North Korea lists terms for talks with US and S Korea

We will have to see where it goes from here. I expect nothing will come of this because time and time again it shows the DPRK all they do is bluff.
 
No talks, they have to fire their missiles. We need a good laugh.
 
No talks, they have to fire their missiles. We need a good laugh.

That's about the only way this is going. They fire those missiles, and then we and everyone else involved in this situation shoot them down and then kick the North's ass for all of the trouble they've created for the past fifty something years and unify Korea to our mutual liking.
 
That's about the only way this is going. They fire those missiles, and then we and everyone else involved in this situation shoot them down and then kick the North's ass for all of the trouble they've created for the past fifty something years and unify Korea to our mutual liking.

Yeah, that's a great idea. I mean... not like they've got anything that could go within range of Seoul and threaten the lives of...10 million people or anything. Yeah, let's gamble on them gambling on a nuclear missile if war goes down. I mean, as we all know - we've had many countries simply start off with their nuclear arsenal and not try to level the closest cities of their enemies.
 
Yeah, that's a great idea. I mean... not like they've got anything that could go within range of Seoul and threaten the lives of...10 million people or anything. Yeah, let's gamble on them gambling on a nuclear missile if war goes down. I mean, as we all know - we've had many countries simply start off with their nuclear arsenal and not try to level the closest cities of their enemies.

The combined might of US, South Korean and Japanese countermeasures would negate the North's offensive capability. Seoul would not be immune, but she would not fall either, and after a unification battle, likely the capitol of Korea.
 
Yeah, that's a great idea. I mean... not like they've got anything that could go within range of Seoul and threaten the lives of...10 million people or anything. Yeah, let's gamble on them gambling on a nuclear missile if war goes down. I mean, as we all know - we've had many countries simply start off with their nuclear arsenal and not try to level the closest cities of their enemies.

The combined might of US, South Korean and Japanese countermeasures would negate the North's offensive capability. Seoul would not be immune, but she would not fall either, and after a unification battle, likely the capitol of Korea.
 
It is good for a laugh.


...If they are not robbers in human form, the United States and the South Korean puppets will have to correctly interpret the meaning of provocation before anything else and feel ashamed of the brigandish acts they have perpetrated thus far.
It is also another provocation against us that the United States is babbling that we should display our will for denuclearization as a precondition for dialogue.

The denuclearization of the Korean peninsula is our army and people's unswerving will now, as it was in the past.

The joint declaration on denuclearization adopted by the North and the South in the early 1990s of the last century, too, was the nation's common achievement proposed and created from such a will of ours.

However, the United States has dragged nuclear weapons in and around South Korea in collusion with the puppets, has begun to increase the degree of threats and blackmail against us with them, and has reduced such a valuable achievement to naught. Our just self-defensive nuclear armed forces are the very thing which we have come to inevitably equip ourselves with in response to the United States' hostile policy toward the DPRK and nuclear blackmail such as this, which have been on a continuous increase.

Therefore, there would be no more foolish and brigandish argument than telling us belatedly today to show first, our will for denuclearization.

Our nuclear armed forces will remain unshakably controlled by the hands of our army and people as the most powerful means for defending [our] country's sovereignty and supreme interest and for launching a strike of retaliation on the stronghold of aggression targeting our Republic, until the denuclearization of the world -- including the United States -- is realized.

Condemning our ultra hard-line measures as provocation, the United States and the South Korean puppets are now continuously hanging onto the path of daring to slander our supreme dignity and system.

It is the gravest political provocation that can never be forgiven to babble randomly that the just will for confrontation of our army and people -- who are boldly resisting the heinous commotions of isolation and suffocation, and maneuvers for a nuclear war against the DPRK -- is for strengthening the succession system, for status enhancement, and for solidifying an unstable internal system.

This is a mere grumble by ignorant people who have no idea who we are. The United States and the puppets would never be able to imagine with their wicked ulterior motives, how hot are the blissful tears shed by artillery women held in the bosom of the supreme commander, or what is simmering in the hearts of our sentries and people who jumped into the ice-cold sea water and followed [the leader] while shouting hurrah at the top of their lungs.

As long as all kinds of provocation maneuvers against us by the United States and the South Korean puppets continue, the degree of our army and people's political and military hard-line response will incessantly rise higher, day by day.

If the United States and the South Korean puppets have the slightest intent to free themselves from the historical responsibility of having turned the prevailing situation on the Korean peninsula menacing, and to evade the hard blow of our army and people's hard-line counteraction, and if they truly want dialogue and negotiation, they should make the bold decision of taking the following practical measures:

First, they should immediately stop all acts of provocation which they have committed against us, and make a full apology. As the first step, they should take the measure of retracting the UNSC resolutions on sanctions which they cooked up under unreasonable pretexts.

They should bear in mind that doing so would be a token of goodwill toward us.

The South Korean puppets should immediately stop all anti-Republic smear campaigns that they are conducting after fabricating unfortunate incidents at home -- such as the incident of the sinking of the warship Cheonan [Ch'o'nan] and the 20 March hacking attack case -- into acts that involved the North.

Second, they should formally offer an assurance before the world that they will never again persist with nuclear war exercises that threaten or blackmail our Republic.

Dialogue and acts of war are in no way compatible. The more the nuclear war exercises are conducted forcibly, the
further the situation will be aggravated and the road of dialogue will be blocked forever.


Our army and people will not be taken in by the sophism that the nuclear war exercises which are being held right under our noses are annual and defensive military actions to defend the United States and guarantee South Korea's security.

Third, they should make the decision [kyo'ldanhada] to withdraw all means of nuclear war that have been dragged into South Korea and its neighboring region and give up their attempt for redeployment as their immediate duty.

They should correctly know that denuclearization on the Korean peninsula can begin with the withdrawal of means of nuclear war which the United States dragged in, and that this can lead to global denuclearization.

The mistress of Ch'o'ngwadae should not forget that the future path [of South Korea] will be bright if our nuclear [weapons] are regarded as the nation's common property, but that [South Korea] will go to ruin if it remains under the nuclear umbrella of the United States.

The situation on the peninsula is directly linked with peace and security in Northeast Asia and furthermore, the rest of the world. Along with the world's peace-loving people who sympathize with justice and value conscience, our army and people will keenly observe the future moves of the United States and its following forces....
 
I wasn't aware that South Korea was a US puppet. If that's true, where is my free Samsung suite of products?
 
I wasn't aware that South Korea was a US puppet. If that's true, where is my free Samsung suite of products?

I'm personally curious about these South Korean mistresses serving their American Masters.... There are some pretty beautiful women on SKorea.
 
Since when did the US bring nuclear weapons into South Korea?
 
So, it is the same strategy used by his father before him. Use violent rhetoric as leverage to yield some sort of concession from the West.
 
I'm personally curious about these South Korean mistresses serving their American Masters.... There are some pretty beautiful women on SKorea.

 
The combined might of US, South Korean and Japanese countermeasures would negate the North's offensive capability. Seoul would not be immune, but she would not fall either, and after a unification battle, likely the capitol of Korea.

Without a preemptive strike from the South at the first sign of a build up before an attack the North would still have Seoul smoldering in ruin because artillery and missiles are trained on Seoul and it only take minutes to get there. You talk big but you're not realistic. Sure the North would ultimately loose but at what cost?

The north would have been cleaned up a long time ago if it was not for this dilemma. No one wants to sacrifice 10 million people so they've been tolerating the idiot midget dictators of the north.

It's just a matter of when hostilities will break out though. Probably a miscalculation from one of the two sides, which will escalate.
 
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I don't see how either of these terms are unreasonable.

"Second, you need to tell the whole world that you will not get involved in any rehearsal for a nuclear war that threatens our nation. Dialogues and war games can never go together," it added.

What is so "incomprehensible" about that?
 
Without a preemptive strike from the South at the first sign of a build up before an attack the North would still have Seoul smoldering in ruin because artillery and missiles are trained on Seoul and it only take minutes to get there. You talk big but you're not realistic. Sure the North would ultimately loose but at what cost?

The north would have been cleaned up a long time ago if it was not for this dilemma. No one wants to sacrifice 10 million people so they've been tolerating the idiot midget dictators of the north.

It's just a matter of when hostilities will break out though. Probably a miscalculation from one of the two sides, which will escalate.

I don't think ten million people in Seoul would die if the assault was by the US, South Korea and Japan. Our tech is better than their tech. And obviously goal #1 would be to target their tech that can hurt the coalition, particularly close-by population epicenters. The assault and amount of countermeasures used would be extraordinary.

Anyway, I think that it's better to go up against the North with an offensive plan, than a defensive one. They've played their hand though, blustering about as they did, threatening everything under the sun. Now they want to talk, but right, they have pre-conditions that are non-negotiable in our country's interest. Like this is going to go anywhere productive.

No, we soon as well should enact battle plans against North Korea. Or what, kick that can down the road too? Some other generation and some other President's problem - which does not even begin to speak for our allies, South Korea and Japan.
 
Read more @: BBC News - North Korea lists terms for talks with US and S Korea

We will have to see where it goes from here. I expect nothing will come of this because time and time again it shows the DPRK all they do is bluff. [/FONT][/COLOR]

Bluff? no **** they bluff - they can't do a damn thing except shoot bottle rockets....

Who the hell does Kim Jung-Un think he is??? Hes in no position to be setting terms when the US could wipe North Korea off the map without sending one soldier in to fight...

If I were in a position of power I would tell China to chill their little step child or their little step child would get blasted back to the "double rainbow."

China isn't going to risk bad trade relations with the US over North Korea. Of course Obama is weak (as are most presidents) and has no idea how to put an aggressive nation in its place.

Of course the democrat solution is just to give them money - which they wont use to feed people but rather invest in their own nuclear program.

Now Iran wants to give North Korea oil - which is probably a reward for North Korea talking **** and making threats..
 
the US should tell them to suck on their balls and then we will go on from there.
 
Read more @: BBC News - North Korea lists terms for talks with US and S Korea

We will have to see where it goes from here. I expect nothing will come of this because time and time again it shows the DPRK all they do is bluff. [/FONT][/COLOR]


The Boston Marathon shows that there are probably a number of groups and countries that feel the US should receive some corrective Terrorist punishment, like for the Drone wars, etc., So North Korea just has to get in line to promulgate terrorism against the US.

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