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Gaullism was recognized as political/econ set of beliefs adopted by Konrad Adenauer & Gerhard Schröder in Germany, so this WEIRD idea you have that political ideologies are bound by geography again falls on it's face.

It is just stupid to hold to this position, but there you are.

It is a falsehood to claim that Konrad Adenauer was a Gaullist. Even your own link does not claim Schroder was a Gaullist.:cool:
 
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Gaullism was recognized as political/econ set of beliefs adopted by Konrad Adenauer & Gerhard Schröder in Germany, so this WEIRD idea you have that political ideologies are bound by geography again falls on it's face.

It is just stupid to hold to this position, but there you are.

The "Gaullism" of of Adenauer was a term with an utterly different meaning in Germany than the Gaullism of DeGaulle in France.

The expression Gaullist has also been used in the politics of the Federal Republic of Germany in the 1950s and 1960s. In the governing Christian Democratic party some wanted to strengthen the ties with the United States, the Atlantiker (Atlanticians), others wanted to build up a European counterweight, with the help of France, the Gaullists.

The most notable Gaullist was chancellor Konrad Adenauer, an outstanding Atlantiker his minister of foreign affairs, Gerhard Schröder. A typical Atlantiker was Protestant and believed in free market economy, a typical Gaullist was Catholic and tended toward Rhine capitalism with its more regulated markets and state intervention.

A problem to the Gaullists has been that their concept of foreign relationships was based on a strong European integration, which needed support from France. French president Charles de Gaulle actually was reluctant to give more power to European institutions and advocated instead a less tight Europe of the nations.

After de Gaulle's retreat in 1969 and the end of Christian Democratic government in Germany the same year, the distinction lost its prominence. Anyway, even Gaullists always believed that the relationship to the United States was in general the most important.[citation needed]:cool:
 
It is a falsehood to claim that Konrad Adenauer was a Gaullist. Even your own link does not claim Schroder was a Gaullist.
The most notable Gaullist was chancellor Konrad Adenauer, an outstanding Atlantiker his minister of foreign affairs, Gerhard Schröder. A typical Atlantiker was Protestant and believed in free market economy, a typical Gaullist was Catholic and tended toward Rhine capitalism with its more regulated markets and state intervention.
Let me see...um..... cognitive dissonance? Yes, definitely.
 
Let me see...um..... cognitive dissonance? Yes, definitely.

Yes, your link cites Adenauer as a "Gaullist" in the German political context, a term with a meaning entirely different from "Gaullist" in France. Your link then names Schroder as an "Atlantiker," an opponent of the German "Gaullists.":cool:
 
Bottom line: "Neoconservatism" has no meaning outside the U.S. political context, and "Gaullism" has no meaning outside the French political context. Both words can be (and have been) appropriated for other purposes outside the U.S. and France, but those uses are more properly understood as misuses, their transitory utility notwithstanding.:cool:
 
Let me see...um..... cognitive dissonance? Yes, definitely.

Bottom line: "Neoconservatism" has no meaning outside the U.S. political context, and "Gaullism" has no meaning outside the French political context. Both words can be (and have been) appropriated for other purposes outside the U.S. and France, but those uses are more properly understood as misuses, their transitory utility notwithstanding.:cool:
 
Bottom line: "Neoconservatism" has no meaning outside the U.S. political context, and "Gaullism" has no meaning outside the French political context. Both words can be (and have been) appropriated for other purposes outside the U.S. and France, but those uses are more properly understood as misuses, their transitory utility notwithstanding.:cool:

You win, hands down.
 
The decision was made public long before the Boston massacre, which had absolutely nothing to do with it.

Okay...

Still doesn't take away from the fact that this was a decision for the President himself to make, not anyone else. You (and others) may wish to see this as a "slap in the face" against whom I'm not entirely sure, but I don't. It's not as if Mrs. Thatcher was the Queen of England. She was just a former Prime Minister, the head of the British Parliament. That's kina on par with what federal position here in the U.S....?...VP? The President's Chief of Staff? Speaker of the House?

For those who desperately want to make this a public issue, you should've written/Tweeted to Speaker Boehner and insisted that he go instead of anyone from the Obama Administration or the President himself since the British Prime Minister position is more his equal.

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Is that another euphemism for, 'abandonment, 'retreat', or 'withdraw'?
No, it means you seem to be too lazy to go back and review where I stated previously what I believe the differences are in the ideologies.
 
Bottom line: "Neoconservatism" has no meaning outside the U.S. political context, and "Gaullism" has no meaning outside the French political context. Both words can be (and have been) appropriated for other purposes outside the U.S. and France, but those uses are more properly understood as misuses, their transitory utility notwithstanding.:cool:
It has no meaning to you. Repeating over and over that an ideology is bound by genetics or geography renders it utterly useless for you. I have seen people unknowingly destroy their own argument, but to deliberately do so is very strange.
 
Back to the funeral:

Even if O couldn't spare anyone from his Administration, American sent Amanda Thatcher!

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It has no meaning to you. Repeating over and over that an ideology is bound by genetics or geography renders it utterly useless for you. I have seen people unknowingly destroy their own argument, but to deliberately do so is very strange.

Learn first. Then post:cool:
 
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