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Obama Says Boston Bombings an Act of Terrorism[W: 77]

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I sense that Obama and his media are desperately wishing this was a domestic terrorist to use politically, and they probably already know it isn't, so they're going through a careful, painstaking series of meetings to determine just how they can couch this.

"Never let a crisis go to waste," as Rahm Emanuel says.

Looks to me like you and CanadaJohn get a lot of your information from the same source.
 
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Okay explain it then if it " went over " my head
Explaining satire is pointless. You either get it or you don't.
 
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We should all be clear now, following the Benghazi attacks, that Obama plays with words and "an act of terrorism" does not necessarily mean "an act committed by terrorists". Obama referred to the Colorado theatre shooting as "an act of terror", an alternate choice of words as well.

All of which allows the man, supposedly the most eloquent President ever to live, to obfuscate until such time as his friends in the media save him.
See? Paying attention to nomenclature and word usage is important.
 
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Under your logic, any bomb in the US arsenal should be legal to own.
Thus 'common sense' pressure-cooker control.

...or do you believe bombs should be legal to own?
 
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What? There were 2 Amerincans killed and it made wall to wall coverage on Fox during the election simply to make political hay, to make Obama look bad and to this day there is no eveidence of Administration wrong doing. Unfortuantely 2 Americans were killed and the RW simply used it as an election point to bash obama with. I dont believe in Karma, but in this case...maybe. Instead of the Repubs dragging out Benghazi all the time they should be embaressed by it.

if you're talking of Benghazi there were four Americans killed, including the US Ambassador. Was it explained to that way by MSNBC?

The United States should be embarrassed by Benghazi in that a punk bunch of religious fanatics were able to murder Americans and there was no response by those who should have been there to help them. Instead they let them fight alone to their deaths.

Obama doesn't need Fox news to make him look bad. This idjit can do it all by himself.
 
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How can they "couch" this? The RW has jumped the shark.


Who is this mythical RW you speak of?
 
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Yes, heaven forbid we call it a "probable act of terror", that might upset the terrorists.

That statement makes no sense. The U.S. has many diplomatic relationships to consider for many reasons.

You can't say "this appears to be an act of terror" without being hysterical?

Yet you are a person exhibiting hair-on-fire emotionalism! Get a grip on your hatred fueled hysteria.

You seem to be a person who needs to be told what to do when crap gets a little hinky. Not everyone can handle bad news and stress. In fact, I'd venture to say that is probably the BEST reason for President Obama keeping the lid on yesterday. People such as yourself need to back off a couple of clicks while the adults handle it.

Ok, so 3 people die in Boston in an act of terror and 24 hours is about the right time frame, for you. What would have been the right time from for 9/11? The USS Cole? Oklahoma City? Since you have to sliding scale handy there, why don't you give us the true proper time frame.

After every event such as OKC, 911, the Cole, Katrina, and most recently Newton and all the similar occurrences in between there are massive after action reports that are conducted. Following that there are studies, replays of the events and the players involved, the first responders and on and on and on. Everything is reviewed, torn apart, critiqued and re-structured and re-planned. Following that there are drills, live and table top using the information learned. Then there are more drills and corrections and more drills. Public information is VERY MUCH part of this process.

I have participated in emergency planning and response at state and local levels for almost a decade. I've seen the process up close and personal. I will tell you and anyone, our governments, state and federal, are doing one hell of a fine job. As Americans we have every reason to be proud of what they do and how they get it done. Those men and women are consummate professionals.

What the President of the United States did or didn't say yesterday was based on lessons learned from previous national tragedies. Of that I have not one slight bit of doubt. Calm men and women well trained, dedicated, trained and trained from the experiences of previous events advised the President's staff as to what should or should not be said, when and why. There were likely protocols that were developed before yesterday and were already in place when it was time for the President to respond.

You can hate and push your obvious and shameful political agenda all you want. Nothing anyone can say is going to stop your political hysteria, but I can promise you that none of the people involved in the President's response yesterday allows petty political bitchiness to play a part in their dedication to this nation.

Really? Name one instance were not calling a terror attack a terror attack will help law enforcement catch the bad guy.

That's absurd and childish. Why would that be public knowledge? You seem to think this entire thing is a big CSI television extravaganza.
 
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Since this looks like a lone wolf and possibly domestic terror, I am not sure much could have been done to prevent it regardless of who sits in the WH. Time may tell a different story, but for now, I think people should prepare themselves for the copy cat efforts that usually come out of these big media events.
 
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How long did it take bush* to say that 9/11 was an act of terrorism?

That is, after he got done flying around the nation in fear of being attacked by terrorists
 
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That statement makes no sense. The U.S. has many diplomatic relationships to consider for many reasons.

In fact, were America as strong and confident as it once was, it would be other countries who were concerned about their relationship with the United States. Americans once had no one to fear, especially some dog-hole countries where their leader feels the need to apologize and bow to.
 
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In fact, were America as strong and confident as it once was, it would be other countries who were concerned about their relationship with the United States. Americans once had no one to fear, especially some dog-hole countries where their leader feels the need to apologize and bow to.

That's a matter of opinion. In my experience when I apologize it is usually because I was wrong.
 
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No surprise that the Daily Beast wouldn't consider that it could just as easily be a "left wing extremist"....

Yeah, that's not to say there isn't anything out there with such up. Just that they went with the 4 upfront.
 
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That's a matter of opinion. In my experience when I apologize it is usually because I was wrong.

Have you ever gone overseas to visit despots and then fawningly apologize for Americans?
 
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So should I assume that you've never been married?

:rofl

Are you referring to constant conflict with intermittent moments of sheer terror? Oh, yes.

But hey, I'm just like any other man. I'll take the blame for all kinds of **** if it means I can get laid!
 
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I just sat thru a class on terrorism last week. The distinction is that the killing was indiscriminate, that's what makes it terrorism. Targeting specific individuals is murder, nonspecific targets makes it terrorism.
 
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I just sat thru a class on terrorism last week. The distinction is that the killing was indiscriminate, that's what makes it terrorism. Targeting specific individuals is murder, nonspecific targets makes it terrorism.

Q: Why is there so much debate about the word “terrorism?” And I was wondering: if a guy goes into a school and murders 20 children to make a point, why is that any different than what happened today?

A: “There is a difference between public perception and what the professionals think. To me, terrorism has always been about the messaging, and not about the event. A guy blows up his neighbors house; it’s a bombing but it’s not terrorism. The Weathermen blew up a bathroom in the Capitol to send a message that no place was safe and we’re gonna take over the world. That’s terrorism. Tragedy is different than terrorism. A terrifying traffic event is not the same thing as terrorism.”

Q: Is there any difference between a domestic terrorism investigation and one that involves foreign groups?

A: “After 9/11, for domestic terrorism investigations, the FBI adopted a lot of rules that you have to follow. If the crime is though to have been domestic as opposed to a transnational group, constitutional issues come into play. But really, the issue of ‘terrorism’ only comes out in the charging. Right now, the focus is on proving the bombing, figuring out who was involved, looking at the story the forensic evidence tells us.”.....snip~

The Boston bombing: fact and fiction

http://www.debatepolitics.com/law-a...d-law-enforcement-do-more.html#post1061697559

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Well, the course material for the class was provided by DHS so I'm going to go with what they say. One guy asked when this information was released to the public, the answer was "after 9/11". It seems that was the tipping point for DHS training civilians to assist.
 
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Here is what it all boils down to....




A special thanks to "Golem"...for providing this graphic...
 
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Did you NEED Obama to tell you officially yesterday that it was a terrorist attack? What difference does the timing make?
Of course not! The newsworthy thing is that Obama officially recognized reality for a change.
 
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Clues and Questions About the Boston Bombings - UPDATE: Obama Plans Trip to Boston

ISTANBUL - I've just arrived in Turkey with a small delegation of American journalists, and many of our hushed conversations have been about yesterday's terrorist attacks in Boston, where twin bombings left three dead and wounded more than 170 -- with more than a dozen people still in critical condition. As we've seen at home, Turkish television has been broadcasting now-familiar amateur video clips of the blasts on a virtual loop. Anchors ask the ubiquitous question: "Who did this?" More than 24 hours later, no group or individual has claimed responsibility for the bombings, and US authorities may be back at square one in unraveling the mystery.

UPDATE I President Obama will visit Boston tomorrow:

The White House has confirmed President Obama's trip to Boston on Thursday. Per the administration's travel plans: "On Thursday morning, the President will travel to Boston to speak at an interfaith service dedicated to those who were gravely wounded or killed in Monday's bombing near the finish line of the Boston Marathon." .....snip~

Clues and Questions About the Boston Bombings - UPDATE: Obama Plans Trip to Boston - Guy Benson

They have also identified the 2nd and 3rd victims.
 
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