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Obama Says Boston Bombings an Act of Terrorism[W: 77]

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It is doubtful that that idea came into play in the timing of the announcement. Even then, what difference would it make waiting to call it a terrorist act? He called it a terrorist act today. A rush to judgement was not necessary yesterday. It was not needed. In fact, with television networks flogging the tragedy for every goddam ounce of viewership they can get, it was a good decision on the part of the White House to let things settle a bit.

What difference does it make in the scheme of things to Joe and Jane Sixpack? Sure political partisan dickwits are going to try to play "Gotcha!" with exactly what Obama said, exactly when Obama said it, and exactly how Obama was sitting in the Oval Office when he was being briefed. NONE of that matters except to partisan pukes, most who have the brains of a large rabbit.

Obama only needed.....wait until he hears from all he needs to on the issue then he declared it for what it was. Anything Prior to 911 the FBI always considered any bombings to be terrorist related anyways, then anything after 911 it was written into law that FBI would be the lead agency on Bombings.
 
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We should all be clear now, following the Benghazi attacks, that Obama plays with words and "an act of terrorism" does not necessarily mean "an act committed by terrorists". Obama referred to the Colorado theatre shooting as "an act of terror", an alternate choice of words as well.

All of which allows the man, supposedly the most eloquent President ever to live, to obfuscate until such time as his friends in the media save him.
 
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Now he did not say it exactly right? Again, why is this so important?
We should all be clear now, following the Benghazi attacks, that Obama plays with words and "an act of terrorism" does not necessarily mean "an act committed by terrorists". Obama referred to the Colorado theatre shooting as "an act of terror", an alternate choice of words as well.

All of which allows the man, supposedly the most eloquent President ever to live, to obfuscate until such time as his friends in the media save him.
 
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I think it is the repsonsiblity of those in charge to make accurate statements. Why is it soooo important to the right Obama uses the word terror as soon as something happens. It makes no difference what he says, what he does does. Why does the RW waste so much time on stupid meaningless stuff? he did not call it terrrorsim for 24 hours. Wow.

I find myself agreeing with you that it makes no difference what Barrack Obama says.
 
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Okay explain it then if it " went over " my head

The guns we've banned are not the guns used predominately for crime. They are typically perceived as the "deadlier" guns, assault rifles, fully automatics, etc. And because of essentially "size" or aesthetics, they are chosen as the scapegoat for the gun ban movement. Likewise, by pointing to the larger "scarier" pressure cookers and making them the scapegoat, while taking little to no real measure to "police" against the smaller ones actually used in crime, it has become analogous to the gun banners' own arguments of assault rifles and magazine limits.
 
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Now he did not say it exactly right? Again, why is this so important?

Probably because this most eloquent and articulate President in the history of the United States should have a grasp on the facts and some idea of what he is talking about.
 
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I think it is the responsibility of those in charge to make accurate statements. Why is it soooo important to the right Obama uses the word terror as soon as something happens. It makes no difference what he says, what he does does. Why does the RW waste so much time on stupid meaningless stuff? he did not call it terrrorsim for 24 hours. Wow.

Because it speaks to his patriotism, or lack there of. We are talking about a President that went abroad and stopped just short of calling America evil. We are talking about a President that would rather cover his privates than put his hand over his heart during the national anthem. We are talking about a President that has repeatedly said "I'd like to fundamentally change [America]". So when he hesitates to call terrorism terrorism, I have to wonder....why?
 
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Now he did not say it exactly right? Again, why is this so important?

It's not terribly important now, he won the election last November, but in the lead-up to the election, as evidenced in the debate moderated by Candy Crowley, Obama used his obfuscation to claim he called the Benghazi attacks a terrorist act the morning after when he actually did no such thing and lied on national television in order to save his ass and Crowley and the media gladly wiped it clean for him.
 
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I find myself agreeing with you that it makes no difference what Barrack Obama says.

Many people stopped listening years ago, particularly now that he's totally irrelevant in the aisles of power.
 
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You do know that Utube was when they were playing hail to the Chief right?
Because it speaks to his patriotism, or lack there of. We are talking about a President that went abroad and stopped just short of calling America evil. We are talking about a President that would rather cover his privates than put his hand over his heart during the national anthem. We are talking about a President that has repeatedly said "I'd like to fundamentally change [America]". So when he hesitates to call terrorism terrorism, I have to wonder....why?
 
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Neither can missiles or howitzers but that doesn't stop anti-gun'tards from bringing those up.
You mean when you guntards say that a citizen has a right to any arm?

Under your logic, any bomb in the US arsenal should be legal to own.
 
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What? There were 2 Amerincans killed and it made wall to wall coverage on Fox during the election simply to make political hay, to make Obama look bad and to this day there is no eveidence of Administration wrong doing. Unfortuantely 2 Americans were killed and the RW simply used it as an election point to bash obama with. I dont believe in Karma, but in this case...maybe. Instead of the Repubs dragging out Benghazi all the time they should be embaressed by it.
It's not terribly important now, he won the election last November, but in the lead-up to the election, as evidenced in the debate moderated by Candy Crowley, Obama used his obfuscation to claim he called the Benghazi attacks a terrorist act the morning after when he actually did no such thing and lied on national television in order to save his ass and Crowley and the media gladly wiped it clean for him.
 
Re: Obama Says Boston Bombings an Act of Terrorism.....

We should all be clear now, following the Benghazi attacks, that Obama plays with words and "an act of terrorism" does not necessarily mean "an act committed by terrorists". Obama referred to the Colorado theatre shooting as "an act of terror", an alternate choice of words as well.

All of which allows the man, supposedly the most eloquent President ever to live, to obfuscate until such time as his friends in the media save him.

Everything you said here is dependent on the word "supposedly" which I guess you just pulled out the right side of your ass.
 
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I just find it odd that President Obama can't call a duck a duck unless he's had time to get a feel for what the public thinks about it. So let's flip the question. Why not just call it a terror attack from the get go? What could it hurt?

1. There may be diplomatic reasons.

2. Leadership includes the ability to remain calm and reasoned. The nation requires it. Obama did that. He had next to no evidence yesterday. There is NO reason for him to fan the flames of crazies in American. Nothing could have been gained by jumping in yesterday.

3. Television networks are beating the tragedy like a stolen army mule. Networks are fanning the flames. Political pundits, media selected "experts" and anyone who could get in front of a camera were quick to make unfounded judgments and pull opinions out of their asses while having no information. The nation needed to calm the hell down a little bit.

Immediately after 911 there were acts of violence perpetrated by American lunatics against innocent Americans in the name of retribution. Shameful acts were committed by American idiots. President Obama was wise give the Boston tragedy a little cooling down before he officially called the bombing an act of terror. Obama exhibited good leadership yesterday in responding but keeping the lid on an excited nation.

4. Investigative reasons of which we are not aware.
 
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Who's behind the Boston Marathon bombings? 4 theories.....

Of course, plenty of people are speeding by the president's advice and jumping to conclusions, or at least jumping to theories. "We all wonder first who did this," says Michael Tomasky at The Daily Beast. And, Tomasky says, a little careful speculation isn't such a bad thing. Here are four groups that are the focus of early (and — let us be clear — sometimes baseless) finger-pointing in the Boston attack:

1. Islamist jihadists
This theory was inevitable in the worst attack on U.S. soil since the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, and it gained some initial credence from a New York Post report that a 20-year-old Saudi national had been picked up as a "person of interest." Police quickly threw cold water on that report, but then Boston TV station WABC reported that police are "searching for a darker skinned or black male with a black backpack and black sweatshirt, possibly foreign national from the accent of the individual."

Another anonymous law enforcement official "notes that the manner of the attack suggests it may have been Al Qaeda inspired — if not Al Qaeda directed," says Christopher Dickey at The Daily Beast. That's because the construction of the bombs — gunpowder with ball-bearings and other shrapnel to maximize the damage — is similar to a bomb recipe shared by Al Qaeda "on its internet manuals for terrorist attacks."

Of course, not everyone is convinced. "Horrific as this obviously was, it doesn't seem big enough" for an attack by Arab terrorists, says The Daily Beast's Tomasky. "Everything we know about their m.o. — the 1993 WTC bombing, the 2000 LAX plot, and 9-11 — suggests that they aim bigger."

2. Right-wing militia types.....

3. The government.....

4. A criminally insane lone wolf.....snip~

Who's behind the Boston Marathon bombings? 4 theories
 
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What? There were 2 Amerincans killed and it made wall to wall coverage on Fox during the election simply to make political hay, to make Obama look bad and to this day there is no eveidence of Administration wrong doing. Unfortuantely 2 Americans were killed and the RW simply used it as an election point to bash obama with. I dont believe in Karma, but in this case...maybe. Instead of the Repubs dragging out Benghazi all the time they should be embaressed by it.

Even this lowly Canadian knows that 4 Americans were murdered in Benghazi, and yes, it was a campaign issue because Obama and his administration couldn't stop lying about it because they had so many conflicting stories out they couldn't keep up with their own spin.

You may think that a public that demands accountability out of its elected representatives is an embarrassment, however, there's nothing more embarrassing in a democracy than a complicit public that allows corruption in the highest offices.
 
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oops got me there.
Even this lowly Canadian knows that 4 Americans were murdered in Benghazi, and yes, it was a campaign issue because Obama and his administration couldn't stop lying about it because they had so many conflicting stories out they couldn't keep up with their own spin.

You may think that a public that demands accountability out if its elected representatives is an embarrassment, however, there's nothing more embarrassing in a democracy than a complicit public that allows corruption in the highest offices.
 
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1. There may be diplomatic reasons.

Yes, heaven forbid we call it a "probable act of terror", that might upset the terrorists.

2. Leadership includes the ability to remain calm and reasoned. The nation requires it. Obama did that. He had next to no evidence yesterday. There is NO reason for him to fan the flames of crazies in American. Nothing could have been gained by jumping in yesterday.

You can't say "this appears to be an act of terror" without being hysterical?

3. Television networks are beating the tragedy like a stolen army mule. Networks are fanning the flames. Political pundits, media selected "experts" and anyone who could get in front of a camera were quick to make unfounded judgments and pull opinions out of their asses while having no information. The nation needed to calm the hell down a little bit. Immediately after 911 there were acts of violence perpetrated by American lunatics against innocent Americans in the name of retribution. Shameful acts were committed by American idiots. President Obama was wise give the Boston tragedy a little cooling down before he officially called the bombing an act of terror.

Ok, so 3 people die in Boston in an act of terror and 24 hours is about the right time frame, for you. What would have been the right time from for 9/11? The USS Cole? Oklahoma City? Since you have to sliding scale handy there, why don't you give us the true proper time frame.

4. Investigative reasons of which we are not aware.

Really? Name one instance were not calling a terror attack a terror attack will help law enforcement catch the bad guy.
 
Re: Obama Says Boston Bombings an Act of Terrorism.....

Who's behind the Boston Marathon bombings? 4 theories.....

Of course, plenty of people are speeding by the president's advice and jumping to conclusions, or at least jumping to theories. "We all wonder first who did this," says Michael Tomasky at The Daily Beast. And, Tomasky says, a little careful speculation isn't such a bad thing. Here are four groups that are the focus of early (and — let us be clear — sometimes baseless) finger-pointing in the Boston attack:

1. Islamist jihadists
This theory was inevitable in the worst attack on U.S. soil since the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, and it gained some initial credence from a New York Post report that a 20-year-old Saudi national had been picked up as a "person of interest." Police quickly threw cold water on that report, but then Boston TV station WABC reported that police are "searching for a darker skinned or black male with a black backpack and black sweatshirt, possibly foreign national from the accent of the individual."

Another anonymous law enforcement official "notes that the manner of the attack suggests it may have been Al Qaeda inspired — if not Al Qaeda directed," says Christopher Dickey at The Daily Beast. That's because the construction of the bombs — gunpowder with ball-bearings and other shrapnel to maximize the damage — is similar to a bomb recipe shared by Al Qaeda "on its internet manuals for terrorist attacks."

Of course, not everyone is convinced. "Horrific as this obviously was, it doesn't seem big enough" for an attack by Arab terrorists, says The Daily Beast's Tomasky. "Everything we know about their m.o. — the 1993 WTC bombing, the 2000 LAX plot, and 9-11 — suggests that they aim bigger."

2. Right-wing militia types.....

3. The government.....

4. A criminally insane lone wolf.....snip~

Who's behind the Boston Marathon bombings? 4 theories


No surprise that the Daily Beast wouldn't consider that it could just as easily be a "left wing extremist"....
 
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...and write them a strongly worded letter.

Yes, because Obama has gone so easy on terrorists. :roll:
 
Re: Obama Says Boston Bombings an Act of Terrorism.....

I just find it odd that President Obama can't call a duck a duck unless he's had time to get a feel for what the public thinks about it. So let's flip the question. Why not just call it a terror attack from the get go? What could it hurt?

Because it might not have been? And making a judgment, any judgment, without the facts is foolish. Why not wait to find out what's really going on before applying a label? Why does it matter what it's called? It matters who did it and why, and how quickly we can discover this and apprehend those responsible.
 
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This is what is so funny. Wait till the next drone event. OMG Obama is killing American terrorist in YEMEN (or somewhere). But he is polite when speaking of them on the news, OH NO. I really dont get this discussion. Jindhal is right.
Yes, because Obama has gone so easy on terrorists. :roll:
 
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I sense that Obama and his media are desperately wishing this was a domestic terrorist to use politically, and they probably already know it isn't, so they're going through a careful, painstaking series of meetings to determine just how they can couch this.

"Never let a crisis go to waste," as Rahm Emanuel says.
 
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How can they "couch" this? The RW has jumped the shark.
I sense that Obama and his media are desperately wishing this was a domestic terrorist to use politically, and they probably already know it isn't, so they're going through a careful, painstaking series of meetings to determine just how they can couch this.

"Never let a crisis go to waste," as Rahm Emanuel says.
 
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