Explosions reported near finish line at Boston Marathon [W:162, 896, 911]]

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Jango said:

That, and that there were spotters on the roofs and bomb-dogs in the vicinity. So in other words, there were a lot of personnel there. I saw national guard helping with the injured moments after the bombings had happened. DHS was supposedly there too. It is possible that the Boston Marathon was a National Special Security Event - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

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If you have any other proof other than there were security there then i would welcome it as valid. But just because there was security there does not make this attack suspicious.

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TheDemSocialist said:

If you have any other proof other than there were security there then i would welcome it as valid. But just because there was security there does not make this attack suspicious.

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I'm not saying what Jones' is saying. I'm looking at the obvious failure in security, which invariably brings up questions like: Was the perpetrator caught on camera? And, when was the last time the bomb-dogs were in the locations where the bombs detonated. There was obviously a lapse somewhere from the place being in the green to when it was in the red. We can't do anything about what's happened but learn from it. And in a lot of instances the CYA syndrome comes out to play and we get a watered-down version of what we deserve and often enough, learn very little from it.

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Jango said:

I'm not saying what Jones' is saying. I'm looking at the obvious failure in security, which invariably brings up questions like: Was the perpetrator caught on camera? And, when was the last time the bomb-dogs were in the locations where the bombs detonated. There was obviously a lapse somewhere from the place being in the green to when it was in the red. We can't do anything about what's happened but learn from it. And in a lot of instances the CYA syndrome comes out to play and we get a watered-down version of what we deserve and often enough, learn very little from it.

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"Watered down"? What does that mean? That we dont know who did this attack?

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Bonzai said:

Not sure what to think yet...............Can't imagine Boston being on anyone's hitlist......................

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The Boston Marathon is the 2nd largest yearly sporting event in the USA after the Super bowl, did you know that?

Maybe that fact will give you a clue.

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TheDemSocialist said:

"Watered down"? What does that mean? That we dont know who did this attack?

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Lol. No. And watered-down as in not a complete and accurate accounting of the events, that there is classification, secrecy and not transparency.

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The Mark said:

Could be any number of things.

Planned security measures or some tentative tip/info come to mind

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It will be interesting, to say the least, in the way the government says it failed and how it failed given the atmosphere present at the scene before the event.

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Very Sad - my heart goes out to those who have lost loved ones

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Chatter said:

Very Sad - my heart goes out to those who have lost loved ones

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Send some good vibes towards the injured too, they're gonna need all the help they can get.

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LaMidRighter said:

Send some good vibes towards the injured too, they're gonna need all the help they can get.

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I just hope there's no more bombs or terrorit attacks in the US or indeed UK which hosts Mrs Thatchers funeral tomorrow with dignitaries attending from across the globe including former US Presidents and the London Marathon is on this Sunday :shock:

BBC News - Boston Marathon blasts: London Marathon to review security

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apdst said:

I'm only pointing out the evidence. The evidence points to someone with training. Using two bombs, the first as a diversion, the second as the main casualty producer, is classic tactics used in anti-personel attacks.

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Nah, Anders Breivik used similar tactics by himself without training.

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If this person is caught, I propose we light a stick of dynamite, shove it up their ***, and let the world watch.

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So far I've heard that 3 are dead, 100+ injured (some critically). I've heard that they took some "young" person in for questioning who happens to be here on a some kind of work visa, but that person is not YET a suspect. Also, the library is a big question mark. They keep saying that it was an unrelated incident yet they are treating it as if it is related. Where's the logic in that? Why would you treat something that isn't related as if it is related?

It's annoying because we STILL don't have any real definitive information yet.

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ChrisL said:

So far I've heard that 3 are dead, 100+ injured (some critically). I've heard that they took some "young" person in for questioning who happens to be here on a some kind of work visa, but that person is not YET a suspect. Also, the library is a big question mark. They keep saying that it was an unrelated incident yet they are treating it as if it is related. Where's the logic in that? Why would you treat something that isn't related as if it is related?

It's annoying because we STILL don't have any real definitive information yet.

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Be patient. It's early yet. I'd rather authorities do a thorough job than rush to judgement and home in on a false trail and miss the real perps. Sometimes law enforcement does this and the real clues go cold and useless.

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EnigmaO01 said:

Be patient. It's early yet. I'd rather authorities do a thorough job than rush to judgement and home in on a false trail and miss the real perps. Sometimes law enforcement does this and the real clues go cold and useless.

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I'm trying to remain patient. It's just annoying when they tell you that the incident was not related, yet say they are treating it as if it is related (about the JFK Library). Is it related or isn't it? It just seems like it's still a big ball of confusion. :roll:

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ChrisL said:

I'm trying to remain patient. It's just annoying when they tell you that the incident was not related, yet say they are treating it as if it is related (about the JFK Library). Is it related or isn't it? It just seems like it's still a big ball of confusion. :roll:

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JFK Library was a fire, and was not related.

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danarhea said:

JFK Library was a fire, and was not related.

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I live in MA. On my local news stations, they are saying that the incident was unrelated, but they are treating it as if it is related. THAT is the part that is frustrating.

You know what I'm saying? Why would they treat it as if it is related when they know (or SAY they know) that it isn't? It doesn't make any sense.

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Jango said:

It will be interesting, to say the least, in the way the government says it failed and how it failed given the atmosphere present at the scene before the event.

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How do you think that the government failed?

How could the government have prevented this?

Fill us and the U.S. Government in.

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Mathematician said:

If this person is caught, I propose we light a stick of dynamite, shove it up their ***, and let the world watch.

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Not going to happen.

That is a radical idea.

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My Condolences to any of our members that had people there. I hate when innocent people are being attacked and hurt. Or Worse. There is no doubt this a terrorist attack. Multiple bombs would classify this as such. Now whether homegrown or foreign is the question. Still there is no one jumping up to take credit. Although my thinking would be they would not do so until after a couple of days. As we expand out our investigative resources.

Moreover I am not to happy with the media coverage over this event. But I am going to get off into that here. Way to much disinformation was put out there.

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At least three dead, 130 injured after bombs explode at Boston Marathon



At least 130 people are injured and three dead after two bombs exploded near the finish line of the Boston Marathon Monday afternoon. The injuries include dismemberment, witnesses said, and local hospitals say they are treating shrapnel wounds, open fractures and limb injuries. An eight-year-old boy is one of the three known dead, multiple news outlets reported, and several of the injured are also children.

Boston Police Commissioner Ed Davis stressed that the police had no suspect in custody yet. "I'm not prepared to say we are at ease at this time," Davis said, when asked if the area was safe. Authorities found and dismantled five more more explosive devices in the area, according to The Wall Street Journal.

Boston Medical Center took in 20 patients, including two children, most of whom are being treated for "lower leg injuries," a spokeswoman said. A spokeswoman for Tufts Medical Center said the hospital is treating nine patients for conditions such as shrapnel wounds, ruptured ear drums, and "serious orthopedic and neuromuscular trauma to the lower legs." At least one patient was as young as three years old.

NBC News, citing anonymous law enforcement sources, reported Monday that a "small homemade bomb" is believed to be responsible for the explosion. The FAA created a no-fly zone around the area. Cell phone service was shut down in the area, the AP reported, to prevent any remote detonations. Family and friends of marathon runners or spectators can call 617-635-4500 for information on their loved ones.

At least three dead, 130 injured after bombs explode at Boston Marathon

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MMC said:

Moreover I am not to happy with the media coverage over this event. But I am going to get off into that here. Way to much disinformation was put out there.

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You posted quite a bit of information.

Are you 100 % sure that what you posted is 100 % accurate?

If not, why did you post it?



"Anyone can be a Monday morning quarterback."

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Russia offers help with probe into Boston bombings......

MOSCOW (AP) — Russian President Vladimir Putin has offered his country's assistance in investigating bombings in Boston that killed 3 and injured more than 140 people.

Putin said in a condolences note published on the Kremlin's website Tuesday that the international community should come together to fight terrorism.

Putin said Russia "would be ready to provide assistance" to U.S. authorities with the probe into the bombings at the Boston marathon.

Obama's national security adviser Tom Donilon met with Putin on Monday and presented a letter from Obama in an effort to improve relations, which have nosedived in recent months.

Russia offers help with probe into Boston bombings

Seems Russia is willing to lend us a hand.....and on the Kremlins Website. My, my, my.....how times have changed.

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shrubnose said:

You posted quite a bit of information.

Are you 100 % sure that what you posted is 100 % accurate?

If not, why did you post it?

"Anyone can be a Monday morning quarterback."

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Why of Course :roll:.....I generally go with Local, AP and Reuters. That which all other news sources follow. For such events. Did you have a problem with it? I also had live feed with CNN's people on the ground and in their Newsroom. So I would say I am and what I have put up was pretty accurate.

Considering I was in on the thread from yesterday with all that I had put in on it.....I doubt one could call it Monday morning QBing.

Although did you think I was talking about 100% accuracy with humans? Did you think there was some sort of perfection I was speaking about.

What was your confusion over?

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This makes no sense, so few killed. If anyone is tied to a cause or organization they need to up their skills. This is equivlant to throwing a rock through the twin towers. If this is their idea of terrorism we have nothing to fear. I did get a chuckle out of CNN instantly questioning the security in place. Why is it some folks believe we need a billion cops for every city block?

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rhinefire said:

This makes no sense, so few killed. If anyone is tied to a cause or organization they need to up their skills. This is equivlant to throwing a rock through the twin towers. If this is their idea of terrorism we have nothing to fear. I did get a chuckle out of CNN instantly questioning the security in place. Why is it some folks believe we need a billion cops for every city block?

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Terrorism isn't just about death. There were hundreds injured as well as children. Even the survivors will live with this for the rest of their lives. All who were there will, even if they were not injured. There is no doubt it will affect people lives in Boston for the rest of their lives. Police who were on the scene, first responders, you name it.

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shrubnose said:

How do you think that the government failed?

How could the government have prevented this?

Fill us and the U.S. Government in.

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We dont know who and why yet, but one thing that needs to be done is border enforcement. With a million illegal border crossings each year, I imagine it would be easy for an enemy to get in.