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Explosions reported near finish line at Boston Marathon [W:162, 896, 911]]

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There have been over a hundred casualties. I wouldn't call that low.

141 injured, like what 4-5 dead (I haven't kept up) in one of the largest cities in America during one of the most anticipated and participated of events is said city. If one wanted to reap more carnage, one surely could have. This is poor planning and poor chemistry. Not that I wish it were more, but as a statement of fact.
 
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Well, let's see. People who are prejudiced against right wingers have decided that right wing terrorist groups are responsible for this. People who are prejudiced against Muslims have decided that Muslims are responsible. People who are prejudiced against left wingers have decided that left wing terrorists are responsible. And so on.
Anyone who has already decided that X group of persons is responsible for this is an idiot.
 
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There have been only 3 reported deaths so far.

With a further 17 in critical condition. Reports of injured are climbing 140+ now.
 
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The reporting on this is predictably horrible. They started off just throwing numbers about with no facts whatsoever. Now we are in here speculating on this which is what people in forums do... but it's all based off all this terrible reporting.

I stopped watching pretty early after I got home from work. They were just looping all that footage that they should not be running on non-stop loops. I read some things after 9/11 that said them doing that was probably a bad thing for most people.
 
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The reporting on this is predictably horrible. They started off just throwing numbers about with no facts whatsoever. Now we are in here speculating on this which is what people in forums do... but it's all based off all this terrible reporting.
Eh, I think the reporting's been pretty good so far. The numbers have been fairly consistent throughout the day. News stations didn't all jump the gun on that "Saudi national" story from the Post. Other than a few missteps that were pretty quickly corrected, I don't think it's been too bad.
 
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Using black powder or fertiliser to make a basic ied shows a lack of resources at best, and not placing the bomb properly shows a lack of training. Your assessment lacks credibility.

Not placing the bombs properly onyl shows that the bomber may not have had oppurtunity to pick the perfect spot. It doesn't mean he didn't know what the perfect spot was.

Let's face it, he scored over a hundred casualties. We're not dealing with some under-roo bomber.

Oh, um, BTW, timothy McVeigh...yeah, he used amoniom nitrate based explosives.

It really sucks how people are trying to play this down. I know some folks--and you all know who you are--are sitting, wringing their hands, praying to God that the bomber isn't Muslim, or even worse, a Muslim that was trained by al Qaeda. That' fine, but let's not de-value the people that were hurt and killed by playing it down.
 
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Well, let's see. People who are prejudiced against right wingers have decided that right wing terrorist groups are responsible for this. People who are prejudiced against Muslims have decided that Muslims are responsible. People who are prejudiced against left wingers have decided that left wing terrorists are responsible. And so on.

:rofl -- I guess I didn't read enough posts.
 
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Anyone who has already decided that X group of persons is responsible for this is an idiot.
And, again, usually just working off of their prejudices.
 
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Eh, I think the reporting's been pretty good so far. The numbers have been fairly consistent throughout the day. News stations didn't all jump the gun on that "Saudi national" story from the Post. Other than a few missteps that were pretty quickly corrected, I don't think it's been too bad.

Agreed. But now the talking heads for the networks have taken over and they're all looking to inject themselves, their own script, in the story.
 
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:rofl -- I guess I didn't read enough posts.
If you haven't yet, then spare yourself. It's not worth it, LOL. But I've seen this not just on here, but around the web. People are so ridiculous.
 
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141 injured, like what 4-5 dead (I haven't kept up) in one of the largest cities in America during one of the most anticipated and participated of events is said city. If one wanted to reap more carnage, one surely could have. This is poor planning and poor chemistry. Not that I wish it were more, but as a statement of fact.

It was not an atomic bomb true . . . but I am absolutely sure there would be many more deaths had emergency personnel not been where they were. If this was a Baghdad market place there would be a hell of a lot more dead. Moments in time my friend, moments in time. Perhaps you are right with the "poor planning" remark, but it seems to me they did exactly what they set out to do.
 
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Not placing the bombs properly onyl shows that the bomber may not have had oppurtunity to pick the perfect spot.

Or that they're stupid.
 
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141 injured, like what 4-5 dead (I haven't kept up) in one of the largest cities in America during one of the most anticipated and participated of events is said city. If one wanted to reap more carnage, one surely could have. This is poor planning and poor chemistry. Not that I wish it were more, but as a statement of fact.

The footage of the blast at the finish line made me think maybe there was some sort of low-rise bleacher there that may have collapsed. It was hard to tell for certain because of the fencing but it looked like some people may have been tangled up in something.
 
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Not placing the bombs properly onyl shows that the bomber may not have had oppurtunity to pick the perfect spot. It doesn't mean he didn't know what the perfect spot was.

Let's face it, he scored over a hundred casualties. We're not dealing with some under-roo bomber.

Oh, um, BTW, timothy McVeigh...yeah, he used amoniom nitrate based explosives.

It really sucks how people are trying to play this down. I know some folks--and you all know who you are--are sitting, wringing their hands, praying to God that the bomber isn't Muslim, or even worse, a Muslim that was trained by al Qaeda. That' fine, but let's not de-value the people that were hurt and killed by playing it down.

Might have also chosen less effective explosives because they're harder to detect and dogs/people aren't looking for them.

Besides, the objective may not have been to cause massive casualties, but instead to steal common safety.
 
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Agreed. But now the talking heads for the networks have taken over and they're all looking to inject themselves, their own script, in the story.
Of course. They have to sell a story to their audience and since nobody seems to be content with just waiting until the info comes in, they roll in with their prejudiced, baseless speculation. It's stupid.
 
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It was not an atomic bomb true . . . but I am absolutely sure there would be many more deaths had emergency personnel not been where they were. If this was a Baghdad market place there would be a hell of a lot more dead. Moments in time my friend moments in time. Perhaps you are right with the "poor planning" remark, but it seems to me they did exactly what they set out to do.

I think that they think they accomplished what they set out to, but in reality didn't. Of course emergency personnel had a positive impact on the number of dead; but the facts remain, this could have been way worse had anyone in the process of any of this given more than 5 minutes worth of thinking. Making things explode is easy, it's the opposite which is really hard.
 
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141 injured, like what 4-5 dead (I haven't kept up) in one of the largest cities in America during one of the most anticipated and participated of events is said city. If one wanted to reap more carnage, one surely could have. This is poor planning and poor chemistry. Not that I wish it were more, but as a statement of fact.

"poor"? No. Not as well planned as it could have been. Yeah, sure.

IED bombers in Iraq would call this a success. They NEVER scored 130+ hits with one attack.
 
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Correct. We literally know nothing. In fact, the circumstances don't even point to a clear group of potential suspects. All the speculation, at this point, is based in prejudice.
Not so, we have information leading to a "Saudi National" now he may not have anything to do with it but then again he may, so please stop it with the PC.
 
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I stopped watching pretty early after I got home from work. They were just looping all that footage that they should not be running on non-stop loops. I read some things after 9/11 that said them doing that was probably a bad thing for most people.

I came home and google the incident and I actually read on Mediaite 50 dead. That was an earlier story. I decided to hold off on commenting on this becuase the reporting was so goddamn wild. Like 9/11 wild where as it was happening they were making **** up all over the place.
 
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"poor"? No. Not as well planned as it could have been. Yeah, sure.

IED bombers in Iraq would call this a success. They NEVER scored 130+ hits with one attack.

Poor indeed. What city in Iraq has the population and events which would draw so many? The fact remains, as grim as one wishes to be about it, had they put any amount of thought or planning into this it could have been much worse. Not a point to fret over or overreact on; but rather just a statement of reality. We're not dealing with the sharpest knives in the drawer (thankfully).
 
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Or that they're stupid.

"Never underestimate your enemy".

The 9/11 hi-jackers weren't rocket scientists.
 
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Aaargh, now CNN has decided to end it's reporting and put that numbnuts Morgan on.

Why anyone would devote an ounce of their time to that network is beyond me.

On that note there are reports coming out of this terrorist attack that Bomb sniffing dogs were on site and they were FULLY prepared for this event, all the way down to the hospitals.

What that tells me is that they might have received threats prior to the race AND OR there was intelligence that there was a threat.

Now if it comes out that there were credible threats and this STILL occurred ?
 
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The footage of the blast at the finish line made me think maybe there was some sort of low-rise bleacher there that may have collapsed. It was hard to tell for certain because of the fencing but it looked like some people may have been tangled up in something.

I'm pretty sure there was no bleacher, but there did seem to be some kind of fenced in area directly in front of where one of the bombs went off
 
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Not placing the bombs properly onyl shows that the bomber may not have had oppurtunity to pick the perfect spot. It doesn't mean he didn't know what the perfect spot was.

Let's face it, he scored over a hundred casualties. We're not dealing with some under-roo bomber.

Oh, um, BTW, timothy McVeigh...yeah, he used amoniom nitrate based explosives.

It really sucks how people are trying to play this down. I know some folks--and you all know who you are--are sitting, wringing their hands, praying to God that the bomber isn't Muslim, or even worse, a Muslim that was trained by al Qaeda. That' fine, but let's not de-value the people that were hurt and killed by playing it down.

Ammonium Nitrate is a component of fertiliser I said "fertiliser" so you wouldn't need a spellcheck. Anfo is a another acronym, Ammonium Nitrate Fuel Oil.
It really sucks how people are bigging this up, accusing suspects based on their own prejudices.
 
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