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Baroness Thatcher dies, age 87 [W:113]

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l think it is good . :lol:

There is no value in being tough just for the sake of being tough. What is important is what you are tough about. You're probably too young and too distant to know what she did and to whom.
 
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Well, you know what they say - nobody is going to get out of this alive. ;)

RIP.
 
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There is no value in being tough just for the sake of being tough. What is important is what you are tough about. You're probably too young and too distant to know what she did and to whom.

Ad hominem. Are you just going to insult anyone who disagrees with you in this thread?
 
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My little gift on this day to Andy and Higgins

 
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Thats your choice, of course. But the link doesnt work.

Oh, sorry about that. Just put "Falklands War" into the search function and see all the threads that have been made about it in recent months.
 
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One of my all time favorite quotes:

"Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren’t."

All I ask from politicians whether I agree with them or not is a nice quote or two. Thatcher had them in spades.

"I am extraordinarily patient, provided I get my own way in the end."
 
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coming up to the Hillsborough anniversary too, very fitting. Justice for the 96.
 
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All I ask from politicians whether I agree with them or not is a nice quote or two. Thatcher had them in spades.

"I am extraordinarily patient, provided I get my own way in the end."

She was no politician, but Dorothy Parker had one of the greatest ever and one that might be most apropos for this thread.

"If you can't say anything nice about somebody sit next to me"
 
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Ad hominem. Are you just going to insult anyone who disagrees with you in this thread?

Who have I insulted? Certainly not you, and Medusa and I are very good friends, I certainly wasn't insulting her. The only person I've insulted is Thatcher. Why? Because:
  1. She destryoed British manufacturing industry quite deliberately.
  2. She created the service-sector-based economy that is currently delivering poverty and unemployment to the entire nation.
  3. She deliberately destroyed traditional working class communities and demonised their unions and their organisations.
  4. She mismanaged British overseas dependencies and this directly led to the Flaklands war. She shamelessly used the Falklands conflict in order to engineer her 1983 election victory. Prior to the Falklands her popularity was in the toilet.
  5. She sold off national assets to her carpet-bagging capitalist mates at rock-bottom prices, effectively giving public money to her political allies.
  6. She introduced a despotic and discriminatory poll tax that united the nation against her. She lost that one.
  7. She introduced legislation outlawing all mention of gays and lesbians in all schools.
That's just seven reasons why I'm not mourning her.
 
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Who have I insulted? Certainly not you, and Medusa and I are very good friends, I certainly wasn't insulting her. The only person I've insulted is Thatcher. Why? Because:
  1. She destryoed British manufacturing industry quite deliberately.
  2. She created the service-sector-based economy that is currently delivering poverty and unemployment to the entire nation.
  3. She deliberately destroyed traditional working class communities and demonised their unions and their organisations.
  4. She mismanaged British overseas dependencies and this directly led to the Flaklands war. She shamelessly used the Falklands conflict in order to engineer her 1983 election victory. Prior to the Falklands her popularity was in the toilet.
  5. She sold off national assets to her carpet-bagging capitalist mates at rock-bottom prices, effectively giving public money to her political allies.
  6. She introduced a despotic and discriminatory poll tax that united the nation against her. She lost that one.
  7. She introduced legislation outlawing all mention of gays and lesbians in all schools.
That's just seven reasons why I'm not mourning her.

Our two countries seemed to have something of a parallel history, as Reagan's policies were so similar, it was almost as if there were a concerted effort to destroy the middle and working classes and engineer society towards some sort of neo-feudalism.
 
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Who have I insulted? Certainly not you, and Medusa and I are very good friends, I certainly wasn't insulting her. The only person I've insulted is Thatcher. Why? Because:
  1. She destryoed British manufacturing industry quite deliberately.
  2. She created the service-sector-based economy that is currently delivering poverty and unemployment to the entire nation.
  3. She deliberately destroyed traditional working class communities and demonised their unions and their organisations.
  4. She mismanaged British overseas dependencies and this directly led to the Flaklands war. She shamelessly used the Falklands conflict in order to engineer her 1983 election victory. Prior to the Falklands her popularity was in the toilet.
  5. She sold off national assets to her carpet-bagging capitalist mates at rock-bottom prices, effectively giving public money to her political allies.
  6. She introduced a despotic and discriminatory poll tax that united the nation against her. She lost that one.
  7. She introduced legislation outlawing all mention of gays and lesbians in all schools.
That's just seven reasons why I'm not mourning her.

see I have no problem with Thatchers Falkland war campaign it had to be done and she handled it well in my opinion.
 
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Yes it is about time.. not because who she was in the past, but who she was in the present. She had dementia and failing health.. that is not life and I would not wish it on my worst enemy (not that I have any).

If she was a republican and worked with a monkey she would have been most glorious US leader ever. There is no way we are going to avoid weeks of really boring UK commentary are we? Oh well, I was getting a bit bored of Ebert articles anyway.
 
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[*]She mismanaged British overseas dependencies and this directly led to the Flaklands war. She shamelessly used the Falklands conflict in order to engineer her 1983 election victory. Prior to the Falklands her popularity was in the toilet.[/LIST]
Ah, yes. The "with the way she was dressed she was just asking to be raped" argument. Poor Galtieri. He shamelessly started the Falklands conflict in order to boost his image, thinking Thatcher wouldn't do anything because she "was only a woman."
 
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If she was a republican and worked with a monkey she would have been most glorious US leader ever. There is no way we are going to avoid weeks of really boring UK commentary are we? Oh well, I was getting a bit bored of Ebert articles anyway.

If she was a republican she would never have made it as leader.....
 
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A contrversial political figure but I am still very sad to hear of her death. :(

In terms of some of the criticism labelled against her, it's often forgotten how idiotic some of the trade union leaders in Britain were back in the 1970's prior to Thatcher coming to power, and a lot of industry such as ship building and our car industry were on the wane due to lack of competitiveness and trade union politics. Ironically today our car industry is mainly foreign owned and is often a closed shop in terms of unions, whilst ship building already started to move to the Far East back in the 1970's. Today the vast majority of mass produced manufactured goods are made in China and the Far East, and mass produced manufacturing will aways go where goods can be produced cheapily. I certainly don't blame Thatcher for the plight of some parts of British Industry, and I think the same thing would have occurred who ever was in power, it was pretty much inevitable and part of the process of increased globalisation.
 
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Thatcher was OK in my book. She was what we needed in the 80's. Ron-Ron had two primary allies back then to help him battle the Soviets: MT and Pope JP. Now, all three are gone. Time to move on.
 
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Yes it is about time.. not because who she was in the past, but who she was in the present. She had dementia and failing health.. that is not life and I would not wish it on my worst enemy (not that I have any).

Not that I often agree with PeteEU... but yeah. This. In the meantime, some of the rest of you in this thread (and you know who you are) :shrug: your vitriol hurts no one but yourself.
 
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If she was a republican and worked with a monkey...

She did. His first name was Ronald.
 
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I don't know much about Margaret Thatcher because she was in office before I was born.

She was indeed controversial, but she did not let her opponents intimidate her, and did not let people belittle her as weak just because she was a women.

Rip margret thatcher
 
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"Spitting Image" was a satirical puppet show of the time, on which Ron was Bonzo's intellectual inferior. An incontinent moron with a removeable walnut brain, and a jelly-bean addiction. One memorable comment on their relationship saw Thatcher being seen off at the airport by Ron with a sickening French kiss, at which point he breaks away and leers into the camera with the words... "What a shame I'm only screwing her country!".

The nailed the Thatcher era with this show which went out the day she was elected.

 
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Here's an excellent article that articulates a lot of what I feel about the death of Thatcher... apart from the bit about not cheering.

We are, today, as she made us. A paranoid, divided, mean-spirited nation, full of resentment, envy, greed and distrust. Racist, selfish, inhumane and tragically too stupid to see we are now nothing but turkeys lining up to continually vote for Christmas.

The Best way To Deal With Margaret Thatcher's Legacy Is To Kill It.
 
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"Spitting Image" was a satirical puppet show of the time, on which Ron was Bonzo's intellectual inferior. An incontinent moron with a removeable walnut brain, and a jelly-bean addiction. One memorable comment on their relationship saw Thatcher being seen off at the airport by Ron with a sickening French kiss, at which point he breaks away and leers into the camera with the words... "What a shame I'm only screwing her country!".

The nailed the Thatcher era with this show which went out the day she was elected.



Boy, I remember that! Chilling.
 
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