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Judge strikes age restrictions for "morning after" pill

minnie616 said:
Not uncomfortable at all about my position on this matter.
My position is that plan B prevents pregnancy but does not cause an abortion.
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I can corroborate that. I don't agree with some of your views, but after the AK abortion law thread, I definitely respect you for being comfortable and well versed on this topic.
 
minnie616 said:
Not uncomfortable at all about my position on this matter.
My position is that plan B prevents pregnancy but does not cause an abortion.
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That's fine, I appreciate that - however, nice dodge of the actual issue under discussion.

The morning after pill isn't an actual, technical abortion - agreed. What about the real issue - unfettered access to the pill for a 13 yr old who thinks she might become pregnant because she had unprotected intercourse? Or is that irrelevant to those who believe ending pregnancy trumps all other considerations?
 
Gosh, this is such a complicated situation. I agree with a lot of what you say CanadaJohn, that it is surely a sign of a deeper issue when a 13 year old is having sex and using the abortion pill, and she probably needs a LOT more than just a pill.

At the same time, though, I think about 13 year olds having unwanted babies, and that at least is something we can try to put a stop to.
 
Another issue I have with this: What if a child (or an adult) does take this pill without others knowing and has some kind of bad reaction? This is something that concerns me especially with young teenagers who would probably take it without informing anyone.
 
ChrisL said:
Another issue I have with this: What if a child (or an adult) does take this pill without others knowing and has some kind of bad reaction? This is something that concerns me especially with young teenagers who would probably take it without informing anyone.
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And take it casually/frequently. This worries me too.
 
Pilot said:
Should minors be able to purchase Plan B?
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The judge compared ability to purchase the "morning after" pill to buying acetaminophin with "no questions asked." That's problematic.

There are side effects to Plan B. As an adult, I think I could tolerate them, but I don't know about a kid whose body is still developing. Plan B (Morning-After Pill): Effectiveness and Side Effects

There is tremendous potential for abuse. I can see kids developing the habit of taking a pill every time they think they're going to have sex. Have tests been done to determine what the typical effects of Plan B are for little girls who are still growing who might take these pills every week or more than once a week?
 
nota bene said:
The judge compared ability to purchase the "morning after" pill to buying acetaminophin with "no questions asked." That's problematic.

There are side effects to Plan B. As an adult, I think I could tolerate them, but I don't know about a kid whose body is still developing. Plan B (Morning-After Pill): Effectiveness and Side Effects

There is tremendous potential for abuse. I can see kids developing the habit of taking a pill every time they think they're going to have sex. Have tests been done to determine what the typical effects of Plan B are for little girls who are still growing who might take these pills every week or more than once a week?
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Since the side effects are unpleasant, I don't see much danger of teens using it as a substitute for more appropriate BC. And then there's the cost factor
 
Do we know what the side effects are for little girls? I wouldn't assume that they would necessarily be the same as an adult woman's, particularly if severe.

What cost factor? If it's over-the-counter and readily available, how expensive will it ultimately be?
 
nota bene said:
Do we know what the side effects are for little girls? I wouldn't assume that they would necessarily be the same as an adult woman's, particularly if severe.

What cost factor? If it's over-the-counter and readily available, how expensive will it ultimately be?
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And I wouldn't assume that they'd be worse, either.

And teens generally don't have that much disposable income to make such purchases on a regular basis. MAPs cost from $10-$70 each

The Morning-After Pill - Emergency Contraception - Cost & Info
 
ChrisL said:
Gosh, this is such a complicated situation. I agree with a lot of what you say CanadaJohn, that it is surely a sign of a deeper issue when a 13 year old is having sex and using the abortion pill, and she probably needs a LOT more than just a pill.

At the same time, though, I think about 13 year olds having unwanted babies, and that at least is something we can try to put a stop to.
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I absolutely agree with your last statement, however, I fail to see how allowing a 13 yr old to act on her own in such circumstances helps her grow and learn and get the help she needs as she develops into a woman. I'm totally opposed to letting 13 yr olds grow up on their own and sink or swim without guidance in such serious matters.
 
Pilot said:
Should minors be able to purchase Plan B?
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Yes. Already the pro life, abstinence only crowd is screaming in my state.

If you can't handle talking to your kids about having sex, then you're not fit to be parent.

And if your kid needs Plan B, you should know about it.


Those parents really tick me off. My mom talked to me about sex, and I told which one of my friends were sexually active. She always said she wouldn't have a problem putting me on birthcontrol, and it didn't make me eager to have sex.

I wasn't a pregnant teen either.


Any parent that complains about this and sex education is not a responsible parent. Please take care of your kids and educate them.
 
sangha said:
And I wouldn't assume that they'd be worse, either.

And teens generally don't have that much disposable income to make such purchases on a regular basis. MAPs cost from $10-$70 each

The Morning-After Pill - Emergency Contraception - Cost & Info
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I wouldn't be too worried about the cost angle - the reproductive rights people who brought this case and their friends in the Obama administration and HHS will ensure that the pills are "free" under Obamacare - just an extension of the "Fluke" rule.
 
CanadaJohn said:
I wouldn't be too worried about the cost angle - the reproductive rights people who brought this case and their friends in the Obama administration and HHS will ensure that the pills are "free" under Obamacare - just an extension of the "Fluke" rule.
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People who realize that their position and emotionalism are not supported by the facts will often make things up

For example, they'll imagine that OTC drugs are covered by health insurance.
 
sangha said:
People who realize that their position and emotionalism are not supported by the facts will often make things up

For example, they'll imagine that OTC drugs are covered by health insurance.
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And naive people underestimate the political power and influence of the reproductive rights lobby with this administration.
 
Re: Judge orders morning-after pill available without prescription

apdst said:
I'm not opposed to the Morning After Pill, but making it available to minors, without a prescription? That's just nuts.
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There are parents who are so worried their daughters will get pregnant, they start them on depo shoots and other long term birth control as soon as their first menstrual cycle. I think that that is nuts. At least this is a little more practical.

And the sooner you take it, the better.
 
Re: Judge orders morning-after pill available without prescription

digsbe said:
There is no barred access for adults. It's regulated for minors meaning that only minors need a prescription, or at least that was the case before the ruling.
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The sooner you take it, the more likely it is to prevent pregnancy. I think making OTC is the best way to make it avaliable.
 
CanadaJohn said:
And naive people underestimate the political power and influence of the reproductive rights lobby with this administration.
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And unreasonable and irrational people don't understand how insurance works

A teen who doesn't want her parents to find out will not have the cost billed to her parents insurance policy because then, her purchase will show up on the policys EOB that's sent to....wait for it......her parents
 
CanadaJohn said:
I absolutely agree with your last statement, however, I fail to see how allowing a 13 yr old to act on her own in such circumstances helps her grow and learn and get the help she needs as she develops into a woman. I'm totally opposed to letting 13 yr olds grow up on their own and sink or swim without guidance in such serious matters.
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The FDA is in not position to make those decisions, which is what this law suit was all about. The FDA makes scientific decisions about medical safety, they do not cover questions of social acceptance or morality. Those are for law makers, not the FDA.
 
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danarhea said:
Oh noes, you have come down with DanaRhea syndrome. :mrgreen:
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Danarhea is contagious?

Take a gas ex Digsbe before you go full Danarhea
 
penn1954 said:
NO!!

This sucks!

I can't buy some kinds of cough syrup w/o ID,

But girls can buy this stuff ??

Whats wrong with these people ???:rantoff:
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Do you know why this is? It's not as if kids are taking Plan B as a recreational drug is it now?
 
sangha said:
People who realize that their position and emotionalism are not supported by the facts will often make things up

For example, they'll imagine that OTC drugs are covered by health insurance.
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Yeah, I don't know of ANY health insurance policies that cover OTC drugs - that's just ignorance.
 
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