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Barack Obama: 'Work still to be done in Northern Ireland'[W:51]

He's right, but what can be done?
 
I'm inclined to think he should do more about the national debt and be less concerned about Ireland. I know I am.
 
hfd said:
I'm inclined to think he should do more about the national debt and be less concerned about Ireland. I know I am.
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hfd said:
I'm inclined to think he should do more about the national debt and be less concerned about Ireland. I know I am.
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Yes of course the ongoing economic crisis from 2007 onwards is more of a concern. Or as one Irishman explained:


But that would be biased so here's the say of the other side:


But as every Government has a foreign policy, what's your opinion on this action by Obama?
 
".....................he said people and political parties had to work together to build trust."

Speaking of nonsense speak.
 
Joechilli said:
President wore a Green tie for the occasion. Men and Women were killed for the wearing of the green not that long ago.

Credit where it's deserved for all sides,

BBC News - Barack Obama: 'Work still to be done in Northern Ireland'

As an American how do you feel about the visit? Does it change the party you support domestically??
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I love my Irish heritage but ya know something? I don't care. Lets focus on the problems and needs of OUR country FIRST. Stop sticking our noses in other peoples problems and buisness....at least until we get our **** fixed.

Edit note: This has been my biggest gripe about every single president that we have had since I can remember getting interested in politics.
 
Joechilli said:
Yes of course the ongoing economic crisis from 2007 onwards is more of a concern. Or as one Irishman explained:
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I don't know who the hell that guy is but we need to amend the constitution for foreign born people to become president and bring this guy on board.

I can just see him ending a press conference the way he ended this interview..."ahh piss-off sir... I'm going for a pint."
 
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It's unfortunate that Obama, like his predecessors, can't focus on US issues and avoid intervening in other countries's affairs.

Let the Northern Irish, British, and Irish sort their affairs just as US citizens should sort their own affairs without an outside interference from another government.
 
Samira said:
It's unfortunate that Obama, like his predecessors, can't focus on US issues and avoid intervening in other countries's affairs.

Let the Northern Irish, British, and Irish sort their affairs just as US citizens should sort their own affairs without an outside interference from another government.
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The U.S. doesn't have that luxury, as we are interconnected. Furthermore, the President is expected to cover an array of issues, at least superficially. Bemoaning the amount of policy diversity expected of a President is juvenile at best.
 
As a descendant to a Colonel of calvary in the Williamite Army who liberated Ulster, I say it is one more place where Obama is sticking his nose where it don't belong.
 
Fiddytree said:
The U.S. doesn't have that luxury, as we are interconnected. Furthermore, the President is expected to cover an array of issues, at least superficially. Bemoaning the amount of policy diversity expected of a President is juvenile at best.
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Northern Ireland's affairs do NOT concern the US anymore than US gun issues concern the UK. Obama, like his predecessors, is involving himself in an issue that neither concerns him nor the US.

It's unnecessary, arrogant, and infringing on another country's sovereignty. There would likely be as much outrage if other foreign governments assumed that they could involve themselves in US domestic affairs.

Anyone who thinks the US government is justified in involving itself in British domestic affairs should allow the British government to have some involvement in our domestic affairs.

And some people in the US wonder why there's so much hatred directed towards the country...
 
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Samira said:
Northern Ireland's affairs NOT do not concern the US anymore than US gun issues concern the UK. Obama, like his predecessors, is involving himself in an issue that neither concerns him nor the US.

Involving oneself in an another country's affairs is unnecessary, arrogant, and infringing on another country's sovereignty. There would likely be as much outrage if other foreign governments assumed that they could involve themselves in US domestic affairs.

And some people in the US wonder why there's so much hatred directed towards the country...
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The U.S. was a valued member in a peace agreement between Britain and Northern Ireland in the 1990s.
 
Lukas105 said:
If Scotland votes to split from the United Kingdom in 2014, I can see Ireland leaving soon afterwards. . .
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what are the chances of Scotland splitting?
 
ChezC3 said:
As a descendant to a Colonel of calvary in the Williamite Army who liberated Ulster, I say it is one more place where Obama is sticking his nose where it don't belong.
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Really? What exactly has he done that is so sticking his nose too far in? Commenting on it?
 
Fiddytree said:
The U.S. was a valued member in a peace agreement between Britain and Northern Ireland in the 1990s.
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And now it's time that US politicians realize that they should mind their own domestic affairs before sticking their noses in other countries's affairs.

Many people don't like nosy foreign politicians interfering in their domestic affairs and I'm certain that many US citizens wouldn't like it either.
 
I think extreme isolationism is cute.
 
ecofarm said:
I think extreme isolationism is cute.
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Sarcasm?

Anyway, just think of how much less hatred would be directed towards the US if its government wasn't trying to police the world and impose its policies upon other countries.

For example, the Swiss and Brazilian governments largely mind their own affairs and thus there's little-to-no worldwide anti-Swiss or anti-Brazilian sentiment compared to the amount of worldwide anti-US sentiment.

Nobody likes an interfering schoolyard bully anymore than people like an interfering global bully.
 
Samira said:
And now it's time that US politicians realize that they should mind their own domestic affairs before sticking their noses in other countries's affairs.

Many people don't like nosy foreign politicians interfering in their domestic affairs and I'm certain that many US citizens wouldn't like it either.
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Ok... I'll ask you the same thing. What exactly has Obama done that is so sticking his nose too far in?
 
Samira said:
And now it's time that US politicians realize that they should mind their own domestic affairs before sticking their noses in other countries's affairs.
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Which doesn't and won't work that way in real life.
 
Fiddytree said:
Which doesn't and won't work that way in real life.
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And that explains why there's been much worldwide anti-US sentiment.

Many people dispise nosy outsiders interfering in their domestic affairs just as many US citizens would despise nosy outside politicians interfering in our domestic affairs.

As I've mentioned before, nobody likes an interfering schoolyard bully anymore than people like an interfering global bully.

Keep believing that the US government is entitled to police the world and many people outside will keep believing that hatred towards the US is justified.
 
poweRob said:
Really? What exactly has he done that is so sticking his nose too far in? Commenting on it?
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We've are own problems, no need getting involved in another's Troubles...
 
Samira said:
And that explains why there's been much worldwide anti-US sentiment.

Many people dispise nosy outsiders interfering in their domestic affairs just as many US citizens would despise nosy outside politicians interfering in our domestic affairs.

As I've mentioned before, nobody likes an interfering schoolyard bully anymore than people like an interfering global bully.

Keep believing that the US government is entitled to police the world and many people outside will keep believing that hatred towards the US is justified.
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But when the U.S. is seen as a valuable partner between the two parties you still have the same objection.
 
Fiddytree said:
But when the U.S. is seen as a valuable partner between the two parties you still have the same objection.
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Because Northern Ireland's affairs are a British, if not a British-Irish, affair as far as I'm concerned.

The belief that the US government is the world's police reeks of arrogance and is used to condescendingly justify imposing US policies on other countries.

Would you accept allowing US domestic affairs to be decided by an outside government? Do you respect other countries's sovereignty?
 
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