• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Americam dream

Medusa

DP Veteran
Joined
Oct 9, 2011
Messages
39,861
Reaction score
7,852
Location
Turkey
Gender
Female
Political Leaning
Other
Jackpot winner: Pedro Quezada (Picture ABC) A US lottery jackpot of £222million has been won by an immigrant from the Dominican Republic living in New Jersey. Father-of-five Pedro Quezada, from Passaic, a working-class suburb 25km (15 miles) north-west of New York, said he would use the Powerball jackpot to help his family. His wife Ines Sanchez said: ‘I still can’t believe it. We never expected it but thank God.’ Thrilled: Eagle Liquors’ store worker Pravin Mankodia sold the winning Powerball ticket (Picture: AP) The moment Mr Quezada became a multi-millionnaire was recorded by... Read more...



£222million US lottery win for Dominican Republic immigrant living in New Jersey | News168: All the latest news

:mrgreen:
 
good for him. i hope this makes life easier for him. i consider the lottery to be a pretty poor investment, but i do like it when someone who really needs the money wins.
 
:/

Winning the lottery is not what the American dream is about.
 
:/

Winning the lottery is not what the American dream is about.

You're right, it's not...But it sure makes the American Dream a reality for those who win, provided it doesn't turn their lives into total crap.....I gotta admit, I play, and dream, knowing that I will most likely never win....But I only play a couple of lines when the jackpot is big....
 
You're right, it's not...But it sure makes the American Dream a reality for those who win, provided it doesn't turn their lives into total crap.....I gotta admit, I play, and dream, knowing that I will most likely never win....But I only play a couple of lines when the jackpot is big....

How do you mean that winning the lottery would turn their lives into total crap?
 
How do you mean that winning the lottery would turn their lives into total crap?

It is pretty common knowledge that many lottery winners go broke, get conned, fall into legal trouble because of their spending, and that lottery money seems to attract all the worst people in the world for some. I am sure this guy will find family he never knew he had and probably wishes he would never have known.
 
How do you mean that winning the lottery would turn their lives into total crap?

"It's fun to think about what you would do if you played lottery numbers that brought in millions of dollars. But, disillusioning as it may seem, big winnings can come with big costs, especially because of the greed of others, experts say."

Winning the lottery: Does it guarantee happiness? - CNN.com

Many more documented cases of lottery winners have had their lives complicated, and turned for the worse than those success stories. It takes a prepared person to be able to deal successfully with a windfall of millions of dollars, especially if they are not used to handling that type of wealth.
 
"It's fun to think about what you would do if you played lottery numbers that brought in millions of dollars. But, disillusioning as it may seem, big winnings can come with big costs, especially because of the greed of others, experts say."

Winning the lottery: Does it guarantee happiness? - CNN.com

Many more documented cases of lottery winners have had their lives complicated, and turned for the worse than those success stories. It takes a prepared person to be able to deal successfully with a windfall of millions of dollars, especially if they are not used to handling that type of wealth.

Awesome site, thank. While we are here, it says in your link that one should have a pre-plan of what one might do with their won lottery.

So what might all of us do should we win it at separate times then?

I'd live the rest of my life doing art. A mere million is more than enough for that here. The rest would go to support my family.

You?
 
Awesome site, thank. While we are here, it says in your link that one should have a pre-plan of what one might do with their won lottery.

So what might all of us do should we win it at separate times then?

I'd live the rest of my life doing art. A mere million is more than enough for that here. The rest would go to support my family.

You?

Using to support your family would be a curse upon them, not a gift. Nobody's family needs $200 million.
 
Using to support your family would be a curse upon them, not a gift. Nobody's family needs $200 million.

It depends on how you support them. I am not saying I would hand it over to them now do I?

Support, like best educational universities as well as helping them get their dream jobs. Besides, we are speaking of more on the ground money, such as 5 million.
 
Awesome site, thank. While we are here, it says in your link that one should have a pre-plan of what one might do with their won lottery.

So what might all of us do should we win it at separate times then?

I'd live the rest of my life doing art. A mere million is more than enough for that here. The rest would go to support my family.

You?

I have though many time about this...Outside of the usual, paying off everything, new cars, new everything, I would buy a shop, or build one, and spend the rest of my life learning how to, and rebuilding muscle cars and either sell, or to the right people give them away.
 
I have though many time about this...Outside of the usual, paying off everything, new cars, new everything, I would buy a shop, or build one, and spend the rest of my life learning how to, and rebuilding muscle cars and either sell, or to the right people give them away.

So it's like a muscle car factory then? Got pictures?
 
Wait until he pisses all the money away and is back at square one.
 
I have though many time about this...Outside of the usual, paying off everything, new cars, new everything, I would buy a shop, or build one, and spend the rest of my life learning how to, and rebuilding muscle cars and either sell, or to the right people give them away.

When you get around to it. Thanks.


As of September 2008, there are two known automatic transmission 1969 Yenko Camaros remaining, according to an ESPN auction show.

On Jan. 17, 2009, a documented ZL-1 COPO, dark green, re-bodied, went for $290,000 at the Barret Jackson Auto Auction as Lot 12773. "Mr. October," Major League Baseball Hall of Famer Reggie Jackson, was bidding on this car but didn't win it. Another yellow, with original body but non-original heads, with auto transmission, sold for $270,000.

Yenko Camaro - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

(1969)
 
Using to support your family would be a curse upon them, not a gift. Nobody's family needs $200 million.

Welcome to the communist party, comrade!
 
Using to support your family would be a curse upon them, not a gift. Nobody's family needs $200 million.

I would be right there with you if you change 'would be a curse...', to 'could be a curse...' , oh, and drop the no ones family needs $200mil....It isn't for anyone other than me to decide what I need, or don't need....
 
I have though many time about this...Outside of the usual, paying off everything, new cars, new everything, I would buy a shop, or build one, and spend the rest of my life learning how to, and rebuilding muscle cars and either sell, or to the right people give them away.

Dang, I could have cool tools, a lift even. I could also finish my '71 Chevelle get that 78-82 Corvette and a '65 Impala. Do my Duramax conversion on a early 2000s Tahoe. Wow, having the money to do it all at one time would be cool. I could probably even afford to buy tools someplace besides Harbor Freight. I could actually make friends with the Snap-on guy and actually find him.

Ok, back on topic.

The American Dream is not about money. Money is nothing but a tool of establishing value and allowing a common exchange of value, it has no intrinsic value to any sane person, only fools. The "American Dream" is having the freedom, outside of established, artificial socio-economic class and boundaries to realistically pursue those dreams. Money may help you achieve your dreams, but really, money is not the dream itself, after all, money is not useful for anything in and of itself, just a tool to get what you value. What you value is the dream, having the freedom to pursue that dream is the real "American Dream".
 
Never ever, ever, ever has anyone seen a lottery advertisement or commercial that said that the winning the lottery will make you happy. Winning the lottery may make you happy momentarily, but it won't improve your happiness long term.
 
How winning a lottery jackpot (or being born into a rich family, or, for that matter, being super-talented or super-endowed in any other way which is not your own achievement) is the "American dream"?

It is the very opposite of the American dream.

Nobody, ever, in the Old World, had anything against finding a buried treasure - or catching a magical creature that grants wishes.

The "American dream" is all about the sober individualism - people relying on their own hands and brains - not birthrights or wild twists of luck - and succeeding, against all odds.
 
Last edited:
Never ever, ever, ever has anyone seen a lottery advertisement or commercial that said that the winning the lottery will make you happy. Winning the lottery may make you happy momentarily, but it won't improve your happiness long term.

I'm pretty sure that winning the lottery would make me happy. Of course once I won it the first time I'd want to win it again and I'd be unhappy when I didn't....until I won it again.

Still.......a luxury suite at Yankee Stadium and a modest but stately 80' Viking.....mmmmmmm
 
I'm pretty sure that winning the lottery would make me happy. Of course once I won it the first time I'd want to win it again and I'd be unhappy when I didn't....until I won it again.

Still.......a luxury suite at Yankee Stadium and a modest but stately 80' Viking.....mmmmmmm

Win the big lotto and you can buy a handful of congressmen.
 
Back
Top Bottom