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Americam dream

Lutherf said:
I'd love to have a few dozen congressmen. I'd dress them all up and stand them around the yard as lawn jockeys.
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You could make it happen. Those whores will do and have done anything for money.
 
Henrin said:
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Winning the lottery is not what the American dream is about.
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Don't know where you've been the past 3 decades, but this is all the American dream we've got left. Our government whored itself out to the corporations and let them eat the seed stock of future prosperity. Only crumbs ever trickled down and now the path to upward mobility is paved with dumb luck and malicious exploitation.
 
We play a couple of times a year when the pools get really big. It is fun to dream about what we would do if we won. You know, a long trip to Italy, finding the biggest chunk of land we can find in the area (I'd love to build a long distance firing range) but we usually get hung up laughing about what the tithe would to our pastor. Poor guy. Can you imagine having to deal with that? :lol:

Yeah, we are those people. My father in law lived with us for almost a year while he got a lot of things straightened out. He's had hep C since a transfusion back in 1988. We all thought he was dying. We had one of those big drawing coming up while he was here, when I brought home the ticket my wife said " I wonder if 90% of that would buy Dad a liver" and that's as far as we got with that one.

In the end we got him set up witb SSD and SSI, he got a liver specialist and we were all shocked. His liver was in surprisingly good shape. They typed his genome and determined a course of action that involves 11 months of drug therapy that stands a very good chance of curing him. His liver will regenerate the damaged areas. He got a considerable back payment (about 3 years worth) from SSI. You don't get a check anymore, they send you a debit card. He has since used it to take care of his wife and two young kids and is currently in Alabama. When the school year is over he's packing them up and moving out here to Georgia.

I was here when he called and the automated voice told him he had nearly $30K on that card. Keep in mind he had been broke and depending on others for years, he can not work. The first transaction on the card got held up and he had to call in to approve it. Seems the SS office is just not used to people tithing on those cards.
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DVSentinel said:
Dang, I could have cool tools, a lift even. I could also finish my '71 Chevelle get that 78-82 Corvette and a '65 Impala. Do my Duramax conversion on a early 2000s Tahoe. Wow, having the money to do it all at one time would be cool. I could probably even afford to buy tools someplace besides Harbor Freight. I could actually make friends with the Snap-on guy and actually find him.

Ok, back on topic.

The American Dream is not about money. Money is nothing but a tool of establishing value and allowing a common exchange of value, it has no intrinsic value to any sane person, only fools. The "American Dream" is having the freedom, outside of established, artificial socio-economic class and boundaries to realistically pursue those dreams. Money may help you achieve your dreams, but really, money is not the dream itself, after all, money is not useful for anything in and of itself, just a tool to get what you value. What you value is the dream, having the freedom to pursue that dream is the real "American Dream".
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Yeah, can you imagine?...Not only a shop, but state of the art, lift, all the latest tools, and computers, everything from wheel mounting/balancing, to a full service paint booth....My goodness...And all of it to do as a hobby between rounds of golf. ;)
 
j-mac said:
Yeah, can you imagine?...Not only a shop, but state of the art, lift, all the latest tools, and computers, everything from wheel mounting/balancing, to a full service paint booth....My goodness...And all of it to do as a hobby between rounds of golf. ;)
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I have that, less the paint booth. Everything together is about $100K. 3200 sq/ft, a 12000 pound drive on and a 10000 pounds twin post rotary, a full set of BG flushing machines, tire mounter, balancer, brake lathe, office and shop computers, top of the line scan tool and all my hand and air tools. You know, those lifts are less than $4000 new. Not a difficult goal.
 
Henrin said:
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Winning the lottery is not what the American dream is about.
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Given what many in here, to include some 'conservatives', have posted about them playing and what they would do if they won- I'd say if it isn't THE American dream, it is what millions of Americans dream about! :mrgreen:

The PLAN maybe to work smart/hard to provide a 'better' life for your offspring than you had, but I'd say the DREAM is to retire early and spend the rest of your life doing what you want to do when you want to.

Inventing the next 'as seen on TV', the next video game, stock tip, fast horse, or lottery all seem to be acceptable ways to get there quickly... though the odds maybe the same for all of them... :(
 
Every other aspect of what the American dream was has been systematically destroyed. The government controls the housing market, the banks skimmed most of the equity off the entire country. College costs are up as is unemployment, incomes are down, taxes are up. I'd say the only people achieving the American dream are politicians and lottery winners. The rest of us are struggling just to get by, and that's the new norm.
 
Medusa said:
Jackpot winner: Pedro Quezada (Picture ABC) A US lottery jackpot of £222million has been won by an immigrant from the Dominican Republic living in New Jersey. Father-of-five Pedro Quezada, from Passaic, a working-class suburb 25km (15 miles) north-west of New York, said he would use the Powerball jackpot to help his family. His wife Ines Sanchez said: ‘I still can’t believe it. We never expected it but thank God.’ Thrilled: Eagle Liquors’ store worker Pravin Mankodia sold the winning Powerball ticket (Picture: AP) The moment Mr Quezada became a multi-millionnaire was recorded by... Read more...



£222million US lottery win for Dominican Republic immigrant living in New Jersey | News168: All the latest news

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Wait... He won an American lottery in £'s?
 
Indeed said:
Wait... He won an American lottery in £'s?
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Her country uses Euros, so her news would report it in Euros. Since he was in NJ and it was an American lottery, he actually gets US Dollars, if he wants Euro's, then he has to do the exchange.
 
MaggieD said:
Using to support your family would be a curse upon them, not a gift. Nobody's family needs $200 million.
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Ok but if you win, I'll be glad to take the other $199 million off your hands :)
 
I guarantee that winning the lottery isn't a dream that's exclusively American. Nor is it THE American Dream. Now if he invented something new, struggled and worked his fingers to the bone and then because of that became a multimillionaire - that would be the American Dream.
 
clownboy said:
I guarantee that winning the lottery isn't a dream that's exclusively American. Nor is it THE American Dream. Now if he invented something new, struggled and worked his fingers to the bone and then because of that became a multimillionaire - that would be the American Dream.
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surely the American dream is what you make it?
 
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