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Police arrest 2 teens in georgia baby's killing

poweRob said:
Yeah I'll give you the AtlantaAdonis quotes... but claiming a susan smith relation, that is you drumming up a race thing.
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Yes, because people passing judgement on this case and claiming similarities to a case involving a white mother murdering her children and falsely blaming a black perpetrator is somehow irrelevant. :roll:
 
Samira said:
Yes, because people passing judgement on this case and claiming similarities to a case involving a white mother murdering her children and falsely blaming a black perpetrator is somehow irrelevant. :roll:
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It's similar to the susan smith case because she is a mother that killed her children while immediately going on tv to blaming others for it.

See... you are the one bringing up race.

Granted different people grieve differently but running towards a tv camera is usually not the way people grieve which is why folks called her actions into question. Not because she was white.
 
poweRob said:
It's similar to the susan smith case because she is a mother that killed her children while immediately going on tv to blaming others for it.

See... you are the one bringing up race.

Granted different people grieve differently but running towards a tv camera is usually not the way people grieve which is why folks called her actions into question. Not because she was white.
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People HAVE assumed that she's somehow involved and because the accused are black and she is white. That's been settled.

Furthermore, I've never seen this much scrutiny and doubt directed at black victims and accusers but yet some people here are willing to aggressively scrutinize and doubt the mother in this case despite having little to no evidence.
 
Samira said:
People HAVE assumed that she's somehow
involved and because the accused are
black and she is white. That's been settled.

Furthermore, I've never seen this much scrutiny and doubt directed at black victims and accusers but yet some people here are willing to aggressively scrutinize and doubt the mother in this case despite having little to no evidence.
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A thug shoots a baby in the face and people are actually trying to argue the point that this was done by the Mother.

Wow, there are some really twisted subsets of society.
 
Samira said:
People HAVE assumed that she's somehow involved and because the accused are black and she is white. That's been settled.
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And by "people" you mean you.
 
Samira said:
Really? You're certain, poweRob?

...http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...s-georgia-babys-killing-2.html#post1061601517...
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Whoa, wait just a damned minute. When PoweRob Posted, "You are the one playing the race card. I've seen noone say she did blah because she's white. That's all you making assumptions of other's," you posted out-of-context snippets that supposedly "played the race card"... including this segment from one of my posts:

DiAnna said:
All I know is that when I saw her, my brain whispered "shades of Susan Smith." If the police can't find the murder weapon and tie it to their "suspects", you can color me skeptical about the entire quick-turnaround arrest based on... well, based on nothing that's been made public beyond they fit the descriptions.
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There was NOTHING in my entire post that referenced or referred to race. Not one damned thing. Here is my entire post, including what you left out. You continue accusing me of playing the race card, and I will be a very unhappy camper. Very. Unhappy.

DiAnna said:
If they are found guilty, they deserve the highest sentence allowable.

That said, this whole story doesn't ring true with me. The only thing that has been consistent is the fact that there is a dead baby, and someone shot the poor little thing. The mother seems... off. If I'd just seen someone slaughter my baby, I wouldn't be giving long, rambling interviews within hours. Everything she said seemed so practiced, so nonsensical (the way she made a big deal of running into a driveway with her baby, after the perps had left instead of screaming for help, for example). She seemed more nervous than griefstricken... then again, people deal with grief differently.

All I know is that when I saw her, my brain whispered "shades of Susan Smith." If the police can't find the murder weapon and tie it to their "suspects", you can color me skeptical about the entire quick-turnaround arrest based on... well, based on nothing that's been made public beyond they fit the descriptions.

Yeah, I'm cynical. I know. But I'll wait and see what happens on this, because I'm not getting the "aha, justice will now be done" vibe.
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I seriously suggest you reconsider mischaracterizing the posts of others to suit your agenda.
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
the old black panthers were secular and had a marxist bent(i believe). The new black panthers are basically a radical offshoot of the nation of Islam, which adopts all kinds of weird religious ideas about space men and "corrupted races"
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They've also been known to go after black leaders who they think are corrupt. In Florida there was a case of a black pastor who went to jail for having inappropriate relations with underage girls. When he got out of jail, he began preaching again than they protested his church every Sunday.

My guess is they think they're presence will insure a fair trial for the alleged killers and discourage any vigilante backlash and/or bring media attention to it if it occurs. I honestly don't think they pose any physical danger to anyone and specialize in rhetoric, media grandstanding and trying to make sure everyone related tip toes on eggshells in the interest of peace and due process, oddly enough. Offensive? Maybe. Dangerous? Nah.
 
Peter Grimm said:
Oh the irony...

:lamo
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Yes, because a truck driver, on a political message board site, arguing largely the same topics over and over for years, should meet your standard for grammatical perfection...This writer is supposed to be a professional writer, and in that sense I believe I can proof read better than him...But, another fail in your response Peter, that you all too often take, is that this thread is not about me....So, either give us your thoughts on topic, or find the door.
 
Smeagol said:
They've also been known to go after black leaders who they think are corrupt. In Florida there was a case of a black pastor who went to jail for having inappropriate relations with underage girls. When he got out of jail, he began preaching again than they protested his church every Sunday.
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The NOI does a lot of community work as well, but they're still scumbags
 
Risky Thicket said:
Maybe the percentage of non-white poor people is higher when compared to poor white people.
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Yeah I don't know about that. I live in Georgia and have relatives in Alabama (wife's side, my people are from the midwest) and there are a LOT of poor white folks around not killing each other, and we're in gun country. Thing if if you are trying to find the source of the problem and you run up against racial culture turning away from it in order to not be called a racist is every bit as wrong as assuming the problem is racial. How about an honest assessment with no assumptions either way? Poor people killing other poor people is silly. You can't steal anything of substance from a poor person so it's not desperate subsistence. If that were the case the poor would be killing the rich. No I think this is more a case of generational devaluing of life, and I think it goes to the breakdown in the nuclear family.
 
I could be wrong, but I don't think we'll find out that robbery was the motive. I think, and this is just a guess, that maybe she owned them money for drugs and they got tired of waiting.
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
The NOI does a lot of community work as well, but they're still scumbags
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How so specifically? Not saying they aren't, I just can't recall anything they've made news for that I was disturbed by. Guilt by association is the closest I can think of.
 
Smeagol said:
How so specifically? Not saying they aren't, I just can't recall anything they've made news for that I was disturbed by. Guilt by association is the closest I can think of.
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With the NOI or the NBPP?

The nation of Islam, I would suggest checking out "message to the blackman in America" and the numerous racial statements from the organization. If we are talking about the NBPP I would say the numerous racial statements from the organization.
 
OscarB63 said:
if a racial slur makes you want to kill someone, you are an animal and the slur was probably accurate
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I don't want to in anyway sound like racial slurs are ever justified but I agree its not excuse to kill someone, especially considering in this case the victim was totally innocent and could not has said anything racist if racial slurs were made by anyone.
 
j-mac said:
Yes, because a truck driver, on a political message board site, arguing largely the same topics over and over for years, should meet your standard for grammatical perfection...This writer is supposed to be a professional writer, and in that sense I believe I can proof read better than him...But, another fail in your response Peter, that you all too often take, is that this thread is not about me....So, either give us your thoughts on topic, or find the door.
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Stop taking yourself so seriously. It was a joke.
 
If only the baby had been armed with an AK-47...:roll:

Or whatever.
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
the old black panthers were secular and had a marxist bent(i believe). The new black panthers are basically a radical offshoot of the nation of Islam, which adopts all kinds of weird religious ideas about space men and "corrupted races"
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The old black panthers believed in that stuff too. So does Obama's cult.
 
Update:: Some are saying this is possibly gang related, as the 17 year old has "bloods" tattoos. Also, the defense has attempted to subpoena the baby's mother several times, and she refuses to answer the door. Also, the defense is saying that there is the possibility that she was trading sex for drugs. They are saying she is addicted to crack and has been known to trade sex for crack. *shudder* The local news channels have called her off and on all day, and the calls are all going straight to voice mail.
 
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