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Police arrest 2 teens in georgia baby's killing

radcen said:
Target for what?

Though if it were me, I would be reluctant to go because I wouldn't want to be hounded by the media. Given that the baby is already cremated (which seems odd, given the crime aspect), there's no hurry. They could have waited for the attention to lessen.

Target for retaliation from the black community.

And I doubt her reluctance to go is because she didn't want to be hounded by the media. Good grief, the lady was on the news the very next day, "oh somebody killed my baby, somebody shot my baby." She's given interviews to several different media outlets, so she has no problem being hounded by the media. It wouldn't surprise me if she was seeking them out.
 
Target for retaliation from the black community.

And I doubt her reluctance to go is because she didn't want to be hounded by the media. Good grief, the lady was on the news the very next day, "oh somebody killed my baby, somebody shot my baby." She's given interviews to several different media outlets, so she has no problem being hounded by the media. It wouldn't surprise me if she was seeking them out.

To what ends? Not saying you're wrong here, but if this is the case, the only reason I can think of logically is what I was saying before, that it sounds like she owed whom ever did this money for drugs, or something equally illegal, and due to her stated response to the killer of "I don't have it", would make more sense in her seeking out media to construct a victim persona in the popular opinion realm....

We see all sorts of horrible things done by parents, stories of babies sold to drug dealers for drugs, children raped for drugs, etc....This story smacks of that sort of thing, but that is just my own speculation.
 
Target for retaliation from the black community.

And I doubt her reluctance to go is because she didn't want to be hounded by the media. Good grief, the lady was on the news the very next day, "oh somebody killed my baby, somebody shot my baby." She's given interviews to several different media outlets, so she has no problem being hounded by the media. It wouldn't surprise me if she was seeking them out.
I think she would only be a target if this were a Susan Smith-like scenario.

As far as her reluctance, I agree she wouldn't shy away because of media scrutiny. I was saying what **I** would be tempted to do in a similar situation.
 
To what ends? Not saying you're wrong here, but if this is the case, the only reason I can think of logically is what I was saying before, that it sounds like she owed whom ever did this money for drugs, or something equally illegal, and due to her stated response to the killer of "I don't have it", would make more sense in her seeking out media to construct a victim persona in the popular opinion realm....

We see all sorts of horrible things done by parents, stories of babies sold to drug dealers for drugs, children raped for drugs, etc....This story smacks of that sort of thing, but that is just my own speculation.

I agree J. Ever since I first saw that first interview, I knew something was off. She isn't innocent, by any stretch. She's just sketchy. I certainly hope the police don't let her run back to NJ like she's planning on doing.
 
WOW. Both the Mother and the Aunt of Demarquis Elkins were arrested this morning for filing a false statement with police.
 
I think she would only be a target if this were a Susan Smith-like scenario.

As far as her reluctance, I agree she wouldn't shy away because of media scrutiny. I was saying what **I** would be tempted to do in a similar situation.

Gotcha.
 
oh no no no no no. I'm so sorry, hon. I didn't see where you quoted me. Noooooo.

I was just pissed that the baby had been cremated. I live here and didn't even know that. That's why I said that.

I'm so sorry.
No problem. Thanks for clearing it up. :2wave:
 
This case is just moving so fast that I don't see how the police could have done a thorough investigation in such a short time. I mean the shooting occurred on Thursday and on Friday the two juveniles were arrested and by Monday they were charged with murder?

And the grieving mother is another story. I don't find it proper police work if the two were arrested and charged based solely on this mother's identification. And now the family members of one juvenile defendant were arrested also for making false statement which wasn't disclosed so far. I'm very concerned about this police dept's hasty and hard-handed approach that I see so far.
 
If this case weren't so tragic, I'd be tempted to grab some popcorn. Before all is said and done, it's going to be quite the drama.
 
Something just keeps nagging me ...

"But they were able to track down the two suspects and take them into custody, aided by a description from West and others, as well as a check of school attendance records to determine who was not in class Thursday."

15-Year-Old Faces Murder Charge in Baby Shooting | 5NEWSOnline.com

Arresting someone for a murder crime based solely on "a check of school attendance to determine who was not in class" and the description of the woman, is this enough of a probable cause?
 
They found the gun. It's a little confusing, but something about the Mother and Aunt giving up information that led to the location of the gun. The article wasn't 100% clear on that.

Anyway, the gun is being kept in salt water and sent away to the lab to check for prints.
 
They found the gun. It's a little confusing, but something about the Mother and Aunt giving up information that led to the location of the gun. The article wasn't 100% clear on that.

Anyway, the gun is being kept in salt water and sent away to the lab to check for prints.
When you say the mother, do you mean Sherry West the toddler's mother, or the suspect's mother?
 
Arresting someone for a murder crime based solely on "a check of school attendance to determine who was not in class" and the description of the woman, is this enough of a probable cause?

Now that is a good question!

I wonder how many black teenagers were not in school that day.
 
I just hope the call for reason and justice overcomes the desire for revenge.

Vengeance does not equal justice.
 
When you say the mother, do you mean Sherry West the toddler's mother, or the suspect's mother?

The Suspect's mother. Elkins' mother was arrested this morning for giving the police false statements.
 
According to the news:

"Also Tuesday, police investigating the case found a weapon and are trying to determine if it is connected to the shooting, a Brunswick police spokesman said."

Suspected baby shooter’s mom, aunt, arrested | WTVR.com

Shouldn't the police first determine if it is connected to the shooting before the arrest on Friday? Whichever way it goes, it doesn't bode well for the image of this police dept.
 
I don't think we are given enough information at this point. Common is from Brunswick also, and said he's heard alot of people talk about how there's no question the kids did it. I don't know if he lives in Old Town Brunswick, or what.

Small town cops often rush to judgement, but with the Travon Martin case, and the Jordan Davis case going on, I'd like to think they'd make sure they had their ducks in a row before making any snap decisions.
 
I don't think we are given enough information at this point. Common is from Brunswick also, and said he's heard alot of people talk about how there's no question the kids did it. I don't know if he lives in Old Town Brunswick, or what.

Small town cops often rush to judgement, but with the Travon Martin case, and the Jordan Davis case going on, I'd like to think they'd make sure they had their ducks in a row before making any snap decisions.

Yeah, I don't think we have enough yet either...I am curious though about that gun. If it turns out to have been the gun, and fired by this kid, he is done, and rightfully so at that point.
 
Just watched the latest news update. This whole thing stinks. The younger suspect is now saying that he didn't do it - he was just a witness and Elkins threatened to kill him if he told. But then he told.

Of course, every relative the two suspects ever had are on the TV, yelling and screaming about how the PO-lice are corrupt and how they don't know how they can sleep at night after arresting two innocent boys.

I see this turning into another huge race issue. Too many different stories going on, and the parents still aren't crying - neither of them.
So the 14 year old is saying the other guy did do it and he just watched? That makes him just as guilty.
Sounds like a good confession.
 
In a homicide case, it's not just cause of death, but manner and circumstances.


Do you mean the trajectory of the bullet and stuff like that? If so, why did the police allow the cremation so quickly? They had control ot the body and they released it.
 
Do you mean the trajectory of the bullet and stuff like that? If so, why did the police allow the cremation so quickly? They had control ot the body and they released it.
Yes, stuff like that. The fact that they released it so quickly is curious to me. Seems to me they keep it on ice for at least a little while just to be safe.

Maybe they got enough in just a couple days, but that would be unusual to get everything so quick.
 
Yes, stuff like that. The fact that they released it so quickly is curious to me. Seems to me they keep it on ice for at least a little while just to be safe.

Maybe they got enough in just a couple days, but that would be unusual to get everything so quick.

Maybe because it was a small town they didn't have a backlog and they got done what they needed and released him. We don't know.
 
Something just keeps nagging me ...

"But they were able to track down the two suspects and take them into custody, aided by a description from West and others, as well as a check of school attendance records to determine who was not in class Thursday."

15-Year-Old Faces Murder Charge in Baby Shooting | 5NEWSOnline.com

Arresting someone for a murder crime based solely on "a check of school attendance to determine who was not in class" and the description of the woman, is this enough of a probable cause?

No, it isn't enough. I have no doubt that they have a great deal more on which to base their arrest. School attendance helped determine who the killer wasn't.

This is now a high profile case. We can be certain that Glynn County police have state law enforcement assistance, whether they want it or not. The governor is going to make certain key political butts are covered.
 
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