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Police arrest 2 teens in georgia baby's killing

I also read that the mother not only got rid of her baby's belonging quickly, but she also had his body cremated the next day or so. Has anybody came across this elsewhere?
 
They have more than that. The 14 year old gave him up. They didn't have this guy's name until the 14 year old told him who he was.

Also, this wouldn't be the first defense attorney to say his client was innocent.

I don't know what's going on - who did what to whom. I just know the whole thing is off.
Then we need to know how the 14 yo was interrogated. Was any adult with him during the interrogation? Any legal representation? Any video or audio evidence? I'd not trust the police absolutely without question, especially when it comes to minors.

More importantly, where are the physical or forensic evidence?
 
Yes she was bagging up the clothing the next day. Clothing, diapers, etc. Haven't heard anything about the baby being cremated yet.

I don't know about the interrogation. Can they interrogate a minor without a parent or guardian present? I'm not sure.

They aren't giving out any information yet on evidence other than witnesses. I do know that, as of yet, they haven't found the gun. At least I don't recall hearing about it.
 
It seems like the 15 yo is also charge. That quick!

Here's what they have so far we know:

As of Saturday, authorities had not found the murder weapon, police spokesman Todd Rhodes said.

But they were able to track down the two suspects and take them into custody, aided by a description from West and others, as well as a check of school attendance records to determine who was not in class Thursday.

15-Year-Old Faces Murder Charge in Baby Shooting | 5NEWSOnline.com

Here's the cremation part:

A private memorial service was held Friday morning for the baby, who was cremated, according to West. She said the family is working with the Catholic relief organization Society of St. Vincent de Paul to help with unforeseen expenses.


http://5newsonline.com/2013/03/25/15-year-old-faces-murder-charge-in-baby-shooting/​


http://5newsonline.com/2013/03/25/15-year-old-faces-murder-charge-in-baby-shooting/

 
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De'Marquise Elkins, Charged With Murder Of 13-Month-Old Antonio Santiago, Is Not Guilty, Lawyer Says

The 17 yo boy is now charged with murder. That's incredibly fast given that we don't know what kind of investigation and incriminating evidence the police has to support the charge other than "West has said she picked the gunman out of a photo lineup of 24 mugshots and insists he killed her baby."

If that's all the police has, than it's a travesty of justice to put this boy and his poor family through this crisis.

I don't think this is all the police have. After the aunt provided an alibi for the 17-year old, they said that they had good reasons despite this. Lots of facts still not in, but I'm prepared to wait to hear what they are.
 
I would hope that the police wouldn't give too much weight to a relative giving the alibi.
 
Because it wouldn't be racism. It would be the fact that I want to hire somebody that's going to do a good job.

If a white kid walked in with his pants halfway down his ass and his ballcap turned sideways, I wouldn't hire him, either. I'd laugh at him, but I wouldn't hire him.

People need to step up and take responsibility for the fact that they aren't getting hired because of their own actions - not because of who they are. I had a girl come in my store once, wearing dirty, bleach-spotted sweat pants and a tee shirt covered in food stains. She was carrying a dirty, unkempt baby who had crust around his nose and who's hair hadn't been brushed in probably a week. I didn't hire her either. She was white. It's not about color. It's about appearance.

Ummm, about making an effort. And don't kid a kidder about somehow not knowing better. "Everybody" has a TV or access to one, and that's all you have to do to even learn English, much less know how to dress for a job interview.

A baby with a crusty nose or sagging diaper? Nuff said. Never mind the slovenly mom, a dirty baby is a deal-breaker. No excuse.
 
I would hope that the police wouldn't give too much weight to a relative giving the alibi.
That's the thing. Sometimes it's all you have or if you're single and live alone that's all you have. I hope the police have more than the woman's identification to support the charge of murder.
 
Second-language miscommunication here, I think.

Meanwhile, we live in an age of insta-info...and also insta-incorrect info. And we don't have very many facts at all. Let's be patient as the facts emerge. (LOL, this might take actual days or even weeks!)
 
I thought you were calling me names.

oh no no no no no. I'm so sorry, hon. I didn't see where you quoted me. Noooooo.

I was just pissed that the baby had been cremated. I live here and didn't even know that. That's why I said that.

I'm so sorry.
 
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I thought I read somewhere that the 17 year old's mom or aunt said that the kid lived in Atlanta previously and had returned to Brunswick, where he was working on completing his GED. If that is what was said why would the 17 year old be registered in high school? The police supposedly, and wisely, looked at local school absentee lists to see which students fitting the general description were not in school when the murder occurred.

If the 17 year old was out with his aunt and her children running errands, as she claimed, there had to be witnesses who could verify that.
 
I live in Brunswick, GA. He goes to a local high school in town.
 
The family held a memorial service for the baby, and the mother didn't show. Two stories have surfaced as to why she didn't show. Firstly, she said she was afraid she was a target, and didn't want to go. Second story was that it just hurt too much to go.

Seriously? She didn't go?
 
The family held a memorial service for the baby, and the mother didn't show. Two stories have surfaced as to why she didn't show. Firstly, she said she was afraid she was a target, and didn't want to go. Second story was that it just hurt too much to go.

Seriously? She didn't go?

Considering she gave an interview the night of the child being murdered entails she's somewhat insane. Her sanity set aside though, an innocent child was still murdered. I've heard more in town than what these people are posting links to. I'd think it's safe to say the two guys are the killers.
 
Considering she gave an interview the night of the child being murdered entails she's somewhat insane. Her sanity set aside though, an innocent child was still murdered. I've heard more in town than what these people are posting links to. I'd think it's safe to say the two guys are the killers.

Do you think she had anything to do with it? On First Coast News tonight, they juuuuuuust started hinting that things seemed "off" but didnt' clarify, or even go into alot of detail. They just played the interview with her adult daughter.
 
I doubt it. There's a lot of people in downtown brunswick during the morning for high school and work. I feel as if someone else would have already come out and said something if anyone else had done it. Idk honestly there's a lot of murders in Brunswick this one's just a baby though which is why it's in the news
 
I doubt it. There's a lot of people in downtown brunswick during the morning for high school and work. I feel as if someone else would have already come out and said something if anyone else had done it. Idk honestly there's a lot of murders in Brunswick this one's just a baby though which is why it's in the news

I know. I posted that a couple of days ago. I live in Brunswick, too, and used to have to drive my daughter to GA in the mornings, and there were people all OVER the place. They were like ants on a picnic basket - you didn't go anywhere without people walking around.
 
Considering she gave an interview the night of the child being murdered entails she's somewhat insane. Her sanity set aside though, an innocent child was still murdered. I've heard more in town than what these people are posting links to. I'd think it's safe to say the two guys are the killers.

I think I'd have to say, like what? Hearsay, and innuendo, Rumor, and speculation is not the benchmark of what we convict people of 1st degree murder of in this country. People talking happens when ever there is a shocking event like this in a town.

I'm not saying that the two young men are innocent mind you, just that I want to know more before I just blindly jump on the band wagon.
 
De'Marquise Elkins, Charged With Murder Of 13-Month-Old Antonio Santiago, Is Not Guilty, Lawyer Says

The 17 yo boy is now charged with murder. That's incredibly fast given that we don't know what kind of investigation and incriminating evidence the police has to support the charge other than "West has said she picked the gunman out of a photo lineup of 24 mugshots and insists he killed her baby."

If that's all the police has, than it's a travesty of justice to put this boy and his poor family through this crisis.
The high-profile status and emotion further confirms my belief that they are acting too fast.


I would hope that the police wouldn't give too much weight to a relative giving the alibi.
Police are human, and as such are prone to believing or disbelieving what they want to believe. It is not uncommon for a detective, or even a whole department, to get it in their mind that a particular person is guilty, then go on to essentially build a case around that person to the point of ignoring more solid evidence pointing elsewhere.


Then we need to know how the 14 yo was interrogated. Was any adult with him during the interrogation? Any legal representation? Any video or audio evidence? I'd not trust the police absolutely without question, especially when it comes to minors.

More importantly, where are the physical or forensic evidence?
How many hours did the detective "tag team" him and wear him down for a name?


The family held a memorial service for the baby, and the mother didn't show. Two stories have surfaced as to why she didn't show. Firstly, she said she was afraid she was a target, and didn't want to go. Second story was that it just hurt too much to go.

Seriously? She didn't go?
Target for what?

Though if it were me, I would be reluctant to go because I wouldn't want to be hounded by the media. Given that the baby is already cremated (which seems odd, given the crime aspect), there's no hurry. They could have waited for the attention to lessen.

I also would not have given all the interviews she has, either.


Considering she gave an interview the night of the child being murdered entails she's somewhat insane. Her sanity set aside though, an innocent child was still murdered. I've heard more in town than what these people are posting links to. I'd think it's safe to say the two guys are the killers.
I think I'd have to say, like what? Hearsay, and innuendo, Rumor, and speculation is not the benchmark of what we convict people of 1st degree murder of in this country. People talking happens when ever there is a shocking event like this in a town.

I'm not saying that the two young men are innocent mind you, just that I want to know more before I just blindly jump on the band wagon.
Bingo. Rumor, gossip, and hearsay can make anybody sound guilty of anything. Pretty low standard of discernment, really.
 
Here's the cremation part:

[/FONT][/COLOR]A private memorial service was held Friday morning for the baby, who was cremated, according to West. She said the family is working with the Catholic relief organization Society of St. Vincent de Paul to help with unforeseen expenses.


http://5newsonline.com/2013/03/25/15-year-old-faces-murder-charge-in-baby-shooting/​


15-Year-Old Faces Murder Charge in Baby Shooting | 5NEWSOnline.com


I am stunned.

That would not have allowed time for an autopsy.
 
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