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Police arrest 2 teens in georgia baby's killing

That is the opposite of what is true, my friend. two blue eyed people (not hazel but blue) cannot have a brown eyed baby. However any combination of brown eyed/brown eyed, hazel/brown and blue/browneyed mixed couples can have a blue eyed baby. Blue only indicates no melanin. You can't create melanin where there is none, but you can have melanin and have a baby who doesn't have any.
It's more than strange, it's impossible. A brown eyed parent and a blue eyed parent can have children that are brown eyed, green eyed, hazel, grey, etc. ... but never blue.
 
That doesn't seem to be the case:

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Again, her reaction just isn't what is expected. This whole subjectivity nonsense you're playing here is not consistent with reality. She's not just putting the kid's things away, she's giving them away before the kid is even in the ground frozen. She's talking about the justice system and procedures she wants done as if the guy who she identified from a lineup has actually been found guilty. I wouldn't go as far as saying she had something to do with the kid's death, but this doesn't remotely look right.

It depends on the individual, and how he/she copes. When I lost my son, I wanted to get most of his things out of his room, and just keep a few small mementos, which I still keep in a box in the closet. It's my Brian box, just like I have a Daddy box. I didn't want to build a shrine in his room, and leave it undisturbed. He was gone. His memory lives in my mind, not in his clothes.

That being said, I have no idea what the deal is with the mother in the story. There are several things which aren't making any sense, and frankly, if the cops don't have more evidence that what we are reading about, then they are inept.
 
That is the opposite of what is true, my friend. two blue eyed people (not hazel but blue) cannot have a brown eyed baby.

Brown eyes are dominate, blue recessive. Apparently the whole thing is rather complex: "The model cannot, for example, explain how blue eyed parents can have a brown eyed child. Yet this can and does happen (although it isn’t common)."

However any combination of brown eyed/brown eyed, hazel/brown and blue/browneyed mixed couples can have a blue eyed baby. Blue only indicates no melanin. You can't create melanin where there is none, but you can have melanin and have a baby who doesn't have any.

Apparently it's more complicated than that, too. Back in the day, I was taught that blue eyes in a child could only occur if both parents had the recessive gene, and that brown eyes could not carry the recessive gene. Apparently, it can. *sigh* Technology has surpassed my education. Again. :(

How Blue Eyed Parents Can Have Brown Eyed Children | Understanding Genetics
 
Anyone wonder why this atrocity is nowhere to be found on the news??? I can't ever recall an incident where two punks blow and infants head off...ever, yet it is nowhere in our media. Maybe if the shooters were white and the baby non white it would be everywhere for 24 hours a day for a month. A young black kid is shot by a security guard months ago and it goes to the White House!!!
 
I've been to Brunswick a few times. It's a completely bigoted, backwards town. It wouldn't surprise me at all if racial slurs were used which provoked the attack. Let's allow the facts to come to light before we rally the lynch mobs here.

that may well be true, but regardless, no amount of racial slurs or insults would normally provoke an attack on a baby.

I hope that the identification of the culprits was just badly reported.
 
It's more than strange, it's impossible. A brown eyed parent and a blue eyed parent can have children that are brown eyed, green eyed, hazel, grey, etc. ... but never blue.

My dad had brown eyes.. my mother had blue eyes.. Two siblings are blue eyed and ringers for dad.
 
I've been to Brunswick a few times. It's a completely bigoted, backwards town. It wouldn't surprise me at all if racial slurs were used which provoked the attack. Let's allow the facts to come to light before we rally the lynch mobs here.

Oh I seriously doubt there were any racial slurs.

How many 17 year olds carry a gun.. and demand money in broad daylight?

You want to pass it off as a result of "racial slurs"????????? :lamo
 
The police say they have good reasons to have arrested Elkins. From the National Post:

[Aunt]"Katrina Freeman said Saturday the shooter can’t be her nephew, Elkins, because he showed up at her house Thursday at 8:15 a.m. — roughly an hour before the killing. She said she cooked eggs, grits and sausage for breakfast and that Elkins accompanied her and her children to run errands when they left at about 11:30 a.m.

“He was with us the whole time,” said Freeman, adding that she gave police the same account of her nephew’s whereabouts. “There is no doubt in my mind that he is innocent.”

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If the family were running errands, won't there be various others who can testify to Elkins being with them?

Maybe, depends on what 'errands' they ran...That will require some police work, and not giving up on real investigation, instead of case building on this young man....Let's see what happens.
 


Ok, I am not posting this to be another in the long overplayed line of gun rights bashing threads. So, other than the AP obviously grammar challenged writers, Anyone notice the absolute shoddy police work here? I'd be surprised if these two teens are even indicted....Thoughts?

It's cases like this that make it hard for me to maintain my anti-death penalty position. :(
 
That quite frankly shocked me. The last thing on earth I'd be doing 2 days after my child was murdered is stuff his possessions into a bag and give them away.

Most parents... and spouses for that matter... suffering such a loss would be holding their loved ones clothing for a scent, a remembrance. It could be months, even years before a grieving parent of widow(er) of a murdered spouse could bear to part with any of their personal items. I remember one story about a murdered wife, when the police came to the house to speak to her husband the day after the murder, her closet and dresser were empty, and all of her personal possessions were gone. His reasoning? "It's not like she needs them, and the extra space will be handy." Guess who was eventually convicted of murdering his wife? lol.

Bah, I don't know anything more than anyone else, but I do know that I do not like this mother, I do not trust her, and the more she performs for the public, the more certain I become that even if she didn't have anything to do with her baby's murder, she's not particularly broken up about it. :(

Well, I can't be sure, but I would say it is shock. It is TOO unbelievable for the parents to even be able to fathom it yet. They probably feel like they are in a dream (more appropriately a nightmare), and it just doesn't seem real, especially when you've been being questioned by the authorities and have had news cameras around. Surreal. That's my opinion anyway.
 
It's cases like this that make it hard for me to maintain my anti-death penalty position. :(

Oh yeah...Couldn't agree more with you here...However, I just hope that they have the right people. Right now, I am just not sure they do, nor am I sure that they have the whole truth....Whom ever did this, I think it sounds more like a drug, or hooker debt gone bad....There are lots of straight up human trash out there.
 
Oh yeah...Couldn't agree more with you here...However, I just hope that they have the right people. Right now, I am just not sure they do, nor am I sure that they have the whole truth....Whom ever did this, I think it sounds more like a drug, or hooker debt gone bad....There are lots of straight up human trash out there.

Yes, I heard that they had someone in custody now. I'm also hopeful that it is the right person and that they find the accomplice as well. I still don't want to make any assumptions about the mom and dad though. Losing a child is the worst thing in the world, and they could very well just be in that "I can't believe it" stage. Also, it's probably very difficult for the parents to even think clearly right now.
 
Yes, I heard that they had someone in custody now. I'm also hopeful that it is the right person and that they find the accomplice as well. I still don't want to make any assumptions about the mom and dad though. Losing a child is the worst thing in the world, and they could very well just be in that "I can't believe it" stage. Also, it's probably very difficult for the parents to even think clearly right now.

Oh my, absolutely.....I can not even imagine....What a nightmare....What people do to each other sometimes makes me just plain ache.
 
Boy, this one is tough. She doesn't appear at all in a state that MOST parents would be in if they had just witnessed their baby being shot in the face, even a day previous. No tears, seemingly rehearsed, and feigned anger. Lets face it, she doesn't look like one of your most upwardly educated people. You want to side with her, but after watching the interview, my gut tells me something doesn't feel right with her, and I suspect any trained police officer feels the same way. I think they're on to her. Someone ever threatened to shoot my kids, you'd have to shoot me to the point of not moving before I'd let that happen. Simple as that.


Tim-
 
Oh yeah...Couldn't agree more with you here...However, I just hope that they have the right people. Right now, I am just not sure they do, nor am I sure that they have the whole truth....Whom ever did this, I think it sounds more like a drug, or hooker debt gone bad....There are lots of straight up human trash out there.

agree.

something doesn't fit with this story.
 
From the Accused Shooters Facebook Profile..

" ME IN MY NIGGA"S A TURN UR BLO5K IN TO MURDER SCENE "

Wow....Why are some of these kids so sucseptable to such a corrupt and evil sub culture ?
 
From the Accused Shooters Facebook Profile..

" ME IN MY NIGGA"S A TURN UR BLO5K IN TO MURDER SCENE "

Wow....Why are some of these kids so sucseptable to such a corrupt and evil sub culture ?

Ignorance and lack of education and empathy, lack of values and morals, victimhood mentality, and poverty.
 
Ignorance and lack of education and empathy, lack of values and morals, victimhood mentality, and poverty.

Exactly! They're not other human beings, they're the enemy. And that goes for both extremes. All one needs to do to witness first hand what black culture has become, is simply walk into a Chucke Cheese on a Saturday afternoon, or tune into that Hillbilly reality show, and there are your extreme examples of what's wrong with our society.


Tim-
 
Exactly! They're not other human beings, they're the enemy. And that goes for both extremes. All one needs to do to witness first hand what black culture has become, is simply walk into a Chucke Cheese on a Saturday afternoon, or tune into that Hillbilly reality show, and there are your extreme examples of what's wrong with our society.


Tim-

It's not just black people you know, although African Americans and other minorities are more likely to be stricken by poverty.

I won't deny that there are some problems in the African American community though.

Fighting the dropout rate for African-American youth | KALW

In 2011, about 82 percent of San Francisco’s students graduated from high school. Ten percent dropped out. Break it down by ethnic group and the numbers change in uncomfortable ways. For example, just 62.3 percent of the city’s African-American students graduated, and nearly 20 percent dropped out. The numbers for Latino students are similar. Kids need education and support, but resources are increasingly scarce. Often in these cases, in cities like San Francisco, nonprofits step in. Resources for those organizations are limited, too, but it helps to be able to show pretty much constant success.

This year, San Francisco’s Omega Boys Club celebrates its 25th anniversary. It has spent that quarter century helping local boys and girls get out of bad neighborhoods and into different mindsets.

The idea came to mind back in 1982, when Joe Marshall was teaching at Woodrow Wilson High School on the Southeast side of San Francisco. He thought he was pretty good at it, and by academic measures, he was. Then he realized that in a school serving low-income families, that wasn’t enough.

“They were getting A’s in math and F’s in life – and it’s tough to get a kid an A in math at 13 and go to his funeral at 19,” says Marshall.

Marshall said that he heard horror stories about his students.

“Many were ending up on drugs, in jail or pregnant,” says Marshall. “The worst thing to do was have to go to a funeral of a former student who was killed in a drug or gang-related incident.”

Marshall started to reflect on his own path. He’d grown up in St. Louis and then South Central L.A. As a young black man, he saw less than half of his African-American peers graduating from high school within four years.
 
Ignorance and lack of education and empathy, lack of values and morals, victimhood
mentality, and poverty.

There is no value what so ever assigned to Character, humility, selflesness, integrity, intelligence or education in general.

Its the lowest common denominator of human existence.

Be as evil as you want, sefish as you want, stupid as you want and then expect the rest of society to provide for you because you have a entitlment mentallity.

This kid feels zero remorse for the life of that baby. And niether do his effed-up family Who are already protesting his innocence
 
Anyone wonder why this atrocity is nowhere to be found on the news??? I can't ever recall an incident where two punks blow and infants head off...ever, yet it is nowhere in our media. Maybe if the shooters were white and the baby non white it would be everywhere for 24 hours a day for a month. A young black kid is shot by a security guard months ago and it goes to the White House!!!

I don't know what news you watch, but it's all over the news. Headline News, CNN, NBC Nightly News, etc.
 
I tell you, I am getting pretty tired of hearing people blame violence on poverty. I was extremely poor when I grew up. Severe poverty my entire childhood. I grew up normally. I didn't use the fact that I didn't have clothes or cable or a phone to go out and blow away a baby. People need to take responsibility for the fact that they are just greedy, and nothing more. People in the projects have their basic needs covered. They have food, water, electricity and a roof over their head. Is that not enough? Well, I'm sorry. Get off your ass and get a job like most people who have more.
 
There is no value what so ever assigned to Character, humility, selflesness, integrity, intelligence or education in general.

Its the lowest common denominator of human existence.

Be as evil as you want, sefish as you want, stupid as you want and then expect the rest of society to provide for you because you have a entitlment mentallity.

This kid feels zero remorse for the life of that baby. And niether do his effed-up family Who are already protesting his innocence

I don't think of it like that. I think of it like victim-hood mentality is pervasive in the African American culture, in large part due to slavery. Although that was a LONG time ago, African Americans DO have to put up with bigotry and racism at times (although that is less of a problem today and becoming less and less of a problem all the time as we are educated society for the most part). This is where the "entitlement" mentality comes from IMO.

I will not deny that perhaps African Americans and other minorities might have a MORE difficult time in life, but people like the Reverend Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson just permeate this victim mentality in a pervasive manner are NOT helping their communities at all.
 
I tell you, I am getting pretty tired of hearing people blame violence on poverty. I was extremely poor when I grew up. Severe poverty my entire childhood. I grew up normally. I didn't use the fact that I didn't have clothes or cable or a phone to go out and blow away a baby. People need to take responsibility for the fact that they are just greedy, and nothing more. People in the projects have their basic needs covered. They have food, water, electricity and a roof over their head. Is that not enough? Well, I'm sorry. Get off your ass and get a job like most people who have more.

That is all true, but when you have a group of people who feel and are convinced by others who are highly respectful members of their community that they are victims and need to "fight back" stuff like this is what happens IMO, along with things like home invasions, thievery, etc.
 
It's not just black people you know, although African Americans and other minorities are more likely to be stricken by poverty.

I won't deny that there are some problems in the African American community though.

Fighting the dropout rate for African-American youth | KALW

In 2011, about 82 percent of San Francisco’s students graduated from high school. Ten percent dropped out. Break it down by ethnic group and the numbers change in uncomfortable ways. For example, just 62.3 percent of the city’s African-American students graduated, and nearly 20 percent dropped out. The numbers for Latino students are similar. Kids need education and support, but resources are increasingly scarce. Often in these cases, in cities like San Francisco, nonprofits step in. Resources for those organizations are limited, too, but it helps to be able to show pretty much constant success.

This year, San Francisco’s Omega Boys Club celebrates its 25th anniversary. It has spent that quarter century helping local boys and girls get out of bad neighborhoods and into different mindsets.

The idea came to mind back in 1982, when Joe Marshall was teaching at Woodrow Wilson High School on the Southeast side of San Francisco. He thought he was pretty good at it, and by academic measures, he was. Then he realized that in a school serving low-income families, that wasn’t enough.

“They were getting A’s in math and F’s in life – and it’s tough to get a kid an A in math at 13 and go to his funeral at 19,” says Marshall.

Marshall said that he heard horror stories about his students.

“Many were ending up on drugs, in jail or pregnant,” says Marshall. “The worst thing to do was have to go to a funeral of a former student who was killed in a drug or gang-related incident.”

Marshall started to reflect on his own path. He’d grown up in St. Louis and then South Central L.A. As a young black man, he saw less than half of his African-American peers graduating from high school within four years.


Hey dude, I know this. Apart from some rare examples, whenever a black family makes it out of the hood and moves to the primarily white suburbs, guess what? You see a transformation take place. They see, eventually that all those stereotypes about distrust of whites is mostly a myth. They then begin to integrate. The effect is mutually rewarding to both cultures in-that, whites begin to trust and even become friends with neighbors that they wouldn't otherwise normally associate with, and the black family begins to realize that not all whites hate them, in fact, they're mostly indifferent and like most American's, they judge not based on your color, but on your character. The reason blacks from the hood keeps perpetuating the myths is that blacks busing in to white neighborhoods to work at McDonald's or wherever, are met at the checkout terminal with skeptical white customers, and there is this uneasy truce, but both sides know each other is distrustful of the other, and nothing in the transaction makes any of it go away. In short, these brief encounters don't last long enough to have any affect on the cultural divide, and the attitudes continue. Whites bitch about the service from the black kid with the attitude, their clothing choices, they're demeanor, and blacks bitch about the fussy white folks with their attitude and demeanor. Sound familiar?

The key to all of this is assimilation through integration, but politicians are all too comfortable keeping both sides skeptical of each other, as it benefits both constituencies politically, but not, in the end, as we see now, materially. All one needs to do is look at Canada where the black populations are about the same as in the US, however, unlike the US, Canada, even in the larger cities like T.O. do not have predominately black neighborhoods. Assimilation, for the most part has taken place, and neither culture has had time to foster stereotypes and distrust of the other because there typically isn't any large enough groups of any one particular demographic to help kindle that inevitable outcome.


That's my take on it anyway. Plus, we all know black kids can learn just fine, we've proven that time and again. So you're right, it's more than just education. It's cultural!


Tim-
 
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