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Unfit For Work: The Startling Rise Of Disability In America

Yeah, same here, and during the day on all the expected channels for the Springer watchers to absorb....

The gov is eventually going to start to cut off welfare, disability, medicare, medicaid and social security and many of the poor slobs who can't function anymore will be screwed because of a bunch of abuse.
 
I just had a thought.....

What happens when people figure out that it's relatively easy to get on disability AND pot is legalized for medicinal purposes? Not only will you be able to get disability but the cost of your stash will be covered under medicare!
 
The gov is eventually going to start to cut off welfare, disability, medicare, medicaid and social security and many of the poor slobs who can't function anymore will be screwed because of a bunch of abuse.

Well, I hope that is long after we are gone brother, because if that happens in full force, then crime, killing, and mayhem will get a whole lot worse, and it won't be the gun's fault then.
 
I have a friend who's aunt is a welfare/disability/government handout whore. She actually quit a job because she made so much money that she couldn't get "her full benefits." How did she know this? THE F'N WELFARE WORKER TOLD HER! That's right, the g'damn government employee pushed her BACK onto the government payouts!

Record spending and record dependency. Anyone else see a correlation? I mean, it isn't like conservatives predicted this or anything.
 
Well, I hope that is long after we are gone brother, because if that happens in full force, then crime, killing, and mayhem will get a whole lot worse, and it won't be the gun's fault then.

That's why I actually don't want to see them cut everyone off suddenly, whether they're bums or not. You eliminate peoples basic living staples (food, rent, medical, etc) and they'll go crazy in the streets. I think there's going to be some weird stuff happening in the next few years.
 
* Baby Boomers represent the about 28% of the US population. People born between 1946 and 1964 are the largest generation segment of the US population. The Boomer segment is so large that sheerly by size alone it has influenced every stage of life in America. Boomers have begun to transition into the disability years and will for a least another decade.

* Life expectancy is ever increasing in the US compared to just decades ago. That means approximately 28% of the population is living longer than has previously been experienced by people 50 and older.

* Medicine and technology have contributed to not only to longevity but also to quality of life. In short, what used to kill you isn't as likely to kill you as it once did. You may be disabled as a result of not dying, but technology, specifically assistive technology, has and will provide you with more functional independence than ever before in the history of the world. In short, the US will see more disabled people and many of them are/will be older.

* Age of onset. I don't know offhand what it is, and I'm too busy to look that up (perhaps ttwtt will Google that for us ;)), but we you aren't going to find many high school kids in America with Alzheimer's, ALS or Parkinson's. While Diabetes II is now a national epidemic, the age of onset is around 40. With this and a lot more in mind let me take you now back to the huge demographic of Boomers. That is a will be one of the impacts Boomers will have on the 3rd stage of life in America - disability. Good or bad Boomers will change the way the nation looks at disability.

* Food. Most of what most people in America eat is processed ****. It is chemically drenched and altered garbage. It contains flavor enhancer chemicals because otherwise no one could stomach the stuff. It actually contains chemicals to make you want more of the garbage. Boomers are the first generation to begun eating processed foods in large quantities. In the 40s people still ate real food. Milk wasn't spiked with chemicals fed to cows*, nor was beef. Moms didn't pass on massive quantities of chemicals through breast milk.

*People under 40 were raised on chemicals ingested in through food and drink. They have grown up in a toxic world that is becoming worse, not better. As a result they have developed more allergies, more and more varied physical, emotional and cognitive maladies than previous generations. More children than ever before have learning disabilities as an example. More children have food allergies, behavioral issues and the like. Disabilities.

The above is just for openers. We cannot pretend that the issues don't exist. We shouldn't ignore some of the causes, but we do. We must also be reasonable in handling the consequences of our national actions. Like or not we do live with the sins of our fathers. It isn't a conservative or liberal issue. It is an American issue. Pointing blame and/or declaring that everything is either right or wrong is nothing more than pissing in the wind.

*http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2012050/The-cocktail-20-chemicals-glass-milk.html
 
I just had a thought.....

What happens when people figure out that it's relatively easy to get on disability AND pot is legalized for medicinal purposes? Not only will you be able to get disability but the cost of your stash will be covered under medicare!

The new American dream
 
I always marvel at this. It's something that a lot of conservatives keep doing. As if there is some magical group of people known as "taxpayers" who are the moral pillars of society, as opposed to, you know, everyone. I think it's more of that "47% of Americans don't pay income tax" statistic that they used to love to quote so much. The statistic that used kids, retirees, and veterans as part of that 47%. Every single person over the age of 12 in this country pays some taxes. Everyone is a taxpayer. Everyone has skin in the game.
not magical. Just uninformed. People don't pay attention to local and state budgets. They don't consider the impact on the fed. And they damn sure dont know how many people go out of their way to make getting on and staying on disability a full time job.
 
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Quite a failure of our social security/welfare/disability system where private companies are cooking-the-books at the welfare office and children are being held back in order to receive disability benefits.

You'd have to have blinders on to get that from the article in your post.

Perhaps, it's time for an overhaul of SS/disability?

It's like you didn't even read the article you posted...
 
SS disability is going to run out of money in 2016 according to SS itself. But don't fret about it. It's only 2013. We'll wait until the last day of 2015 to address it. If we keep adding recipients at the current rate, or even accelerate that, maybe we can run out a little earlier.
 
You'd have to have blinders on to get that from the article in your post.



It's like you didn't even read the article you posted...

So, are you suggesting that SSDI is running a tight ship?
 
When an unacceptable number of our population has become fat and stupid, it's no mystery why so many people are on disability.
Yes...because too many people are fat and stupid. It doesn't take much to get this way, when you spend most of your time on the couch, just'a taking one welfare check after another, being as unproductive as possible.

Our health care system is defunct, it's cheaper to buy junk food than real food thanks to subsidies
Even though our health care system is #1 in the world, regardless of your empty statement, I agree that because of government subsidies to extort farmers to grow crap corn for fuel, our prices have skyrocketed. Give thanks at your nearest altar to Lord Obama for that one.

and with unions disappearing and proposals to slash minimum wage people have to work longer hours for the privilege of remaining poor.
Disappearing unions are a good thing. They're useless. As far as minimum wage people, your argument is weak. The vast majority of people on minimum wage are teenagers (living at home) and part-timers that aren't looking for 40 hours a week. These aren't people needed a lot of money from that particular job.

You call it the gravy train, I call it the necessary outcome of a corporate slavery mentality. Just keep outsourcing the jobs and destroying worker rights, and more and more people will keep turning to the government tit.
This is total B.S. Just at my office alone, we've seemingly got more obese people working than fit people. As many minorities as whites.[/QUOTE]
 
You didn't really read the article.

Okay.

i am pretty sure when the article said disability was poorly defined and often goes by the subjective judgements of doctors it was saying it was not running a tight ship. Perhaps you should read the article.
 
I have a friend who's aunt is a welfare/disability/government handout whore. She actually quit a job because she made so much money that she couldn't get "her full benefits." How did she know this? THE F'N WELFARE WORKER TOLD HER! That's right, the g'damn government employee pushed her BACK onto the government payouts!

Record spending and record dependency. Anyone else see a correlation? I mean, it isn't like conservatives predicted this or anything.

When you are right for the wrong reasons, you just look foolish. I mean it's not like liberals didn't predict that we would have record dependency and record debts. We certainly did know this would happen. We just also knew, correctly, that it would be the consequence of an economy that is not generating enough jobs. Conservatives have this fantasy that it is largely because current dependent people are lazy.
 
Really? Where did you read that?

Which answer do you think would make him sound less insane?

"I heard on right wing talk radio that American healthcare is #1 in the world." or "The voices in my head told me it was safe to eat my own feces, American healthcare is #1 in the world."
 
Genetics... No. ****ty parents. Yes. Isn't it amaaaaaaaaazing how families that promote education and hardwork for the most part has successful children, even those immigrant families, legal or otherwise.

Always an excuse. Always someone else's fault.

Statistics to back this up? I know a ton of hard working poor people who've never gotten anywhere. Blue collars mostly. Work 60-70 hour weeks just to get a week off every year. Education? $15K a year tuition averages? Good luck affording that if your family is a bunch of poor suckers working 8-5s just to make ends meet. Oh, then there's the military - yeah, vets finding jobs seems to be a problem. So what are the options VanceMack? Wishful thinking and pulling yourself up by your own bootstraps while going up a stair case? Heard it all before.
 
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i am pretty sure when the article said disability was poorly defined and often goes by the subjective judgements of doctors it was saying it was not running a tight ship. Perhaps you should read the article.

Oh, so you too didn't read the article?

Well, that's fine (I guess) but I wish you'd just come out and admit that you didn't read it.
 
http://apps.npr.org/unfit-for-work/





I found this quite an eye opening article. Quite a failure of our social security/welfare/disability system where private companies are cooking-the-books at the welfare office and children are being held back in order to receive disability benefits.

Perhaps, it's time for an overhaul of SS/disability?

Disability insurance for those too young to work should only pay for medically necessary benefits required to help a child overcome his/her disability. It should not be a check for the parent to live off of.
 
Statistics to back this up? I know a ton of hard working poor people who've never gotten anywhere. Blue collars mostly. Work 60-70 hour weeks just to get a week off every year. Education? $15K a year tuition averages? Good luck affording that if your family is a bunch of poor suckers working 8-5s just to make ends meet. Oh, then there's the military - yeah, vets finding jobs seems to be a problem. So what are the options VanceMack? Wishful thinking and pulling yourself up by your own bootstraps while going up a stair case? Heard it all before.

That's an excuse to keep otherwise good people dependent on the government....Let me fill you in....My situation is that which you describe here...Although my wife and I have a nice home, and both work, I about 60 to 70 hours per week, and my wife 40, we get by week to week with little left over. In earlier years, partly because of poor decisions, and partly because of lack of higher education to gain better jobs, we struggled most of our lives. There was no way that we could afford to send our kids to collage, but what we can do is provide a good home for them to stay in, and help with lessor things to take the burden off of them, freeing them to through student loans, and scholarships go to collage. My daughter is working full time as a CNA, and putting herself through nursing school, and my son is also working full time and putting himself through collage to be a teacher. Both professions are not high octane money makers, but with their determination they will succeed. And both will graduate with less than 30K in loan debt. Don't tell me that others can't do it...I won't accept that.
 
That's an excuse to keep otherwise good people dependent on the government....Let me fill you in....My situation is that which you describe here...Although my wife and I have a nice home, and both work, I about 60 to 70 hours per week, and my wife 40, we get by week to week with little left over. In earlier years, partly because of poor decisions, and partly because of lack of higher education to gain better jobs, we struggled most of our lives. There was no way that we could afford to send our kids to collage, but what we can do is provide a good home for them to stay in, and help with lessor things to take the burden off of them, freeing them to through student loans, and scholarships go to collage. My daughter is working full time as a CNA, and putting herself through nursing school, and my son is also working full time and putting himself through collage to be a teacher. Both professions are not high octane money makers, but with their determination they will succeed. And both will graduate with less than 30K in loan debt. Don't tell me that others can't do it...I won't accept that.

I always find it funny how those who expect people like yourself to throw in the towel are usually the ones who never really "work" a day in their life.
 
I always find it funny how those who expect people like yourself to throw in the towel are usually the ones who never really "work" a day in their life.

I don't blame anyone for the mistakes I made with my life other than myself, and after realizing that, and some pretty hard times, we clawed our way back to the middle class through hard work, and it was a good lesson learned. One that the kids watched, took in, and are better for having gone through it.
 
I always find it funny how those who expect people like yourself to throw in the towel are usually the ones who never really "work" a day in their life.

I think some over generalize too much, and may see their own battles as more difficult than they were, and not a good comparison to others.
 
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