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Steubenville High School football players found guilty of raping 16-year-old [W:245]

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Not that anyone should listen to him on the mere account of who he is... but Henry Rollins makes some good points in his response to these events.

Henry Rollins Comments On Steubenville Rape Verdict | Under the Gun Review

I hope everybody posting on this thread follows your link and reads what Rollins has to say.

A day or so I read a Yahoo article that I can no longer find that discussed about the "cost" of these convictions and which asked about the larger issue--the kids who didn't "get" that recording a backseat assault was wrong and who taped the football player slapping the unconscious girl's hip with his penis who testified that he thought rape had to be "forced."
She was lying naked and next to her own vomit and unconscious, so she wasn't being "forced." What?

The article's writer expressed the opinion that those who "colluded"--who gave tacit affirmation to what was going on--are a symptom of a larger problem.

It's not a new one; it's an old one: The objectification of women.

Here's a link to the first-hand account of a blogger/whistle-blower: I Am The Blogger Who Allegedly

And here's what she had to say in summary:

Today is one that is filled with many emotions: joy that Jane Doe is able to move on with her life now; sadness and compassion for all of the lives that were forever changed because of a night of bad decisions, and contempt for those who did nothing to stop this terrible chain of events. Because at the end of the day, the only agenda I have is simple.
Let's prevent another Jane Doe from happening ever again. Let's comfort the ones brave enough to stand up in the face of adversity. And let's encourage all the Jane Does too afraid to come forward to have renewed strength and courage in the wake of the Steubenville verdict.

What happened in Steubenville was appalling, and "the world" took temporary notice. So many lives changed forever. As the mother of a son, my heart was broken by convicted rapist Mays' sobbed, "My life is over."

No, it's not. It has been changed forever, and deservedly. But if "It takes a village" is true, then the "village" needs to be looking at itself. These boys--and that's what they are, boys--didn't arrive with the attitudes they brought to the parties, and neither did the girls.
 
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Where is her death in the koran? Quote it. For that matter, quote anything that counters anything they've said. Anything at all.

Or I can stop before you get executed for having a free thought.

where is killing jews in bible ?

burning women accused of witchcraft ?

or pedophlic priests ?
 
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I already did. Your turn.



as response to your moronic question

where is killing jews in bible ?

burning women accused of witchcraft ?

or pedophlic priests ?
 
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...burning women accused of witchcraft ?
That one actually exists....
Exodus 22; 18: Do not allow a sorceress to live.

Any time you want to come back with your own source on the ages of Muhammad's wives, you go right ahead.
 
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That one actually exists....
Exodus 22; 18: Do not allow a sorceress to live.

Any time you want to come back with your own source on the ages of Muhammad's wives, you go right ahead.

it is mentioned in the old testament ,catholics dont have to obey it....

but as you see ,sometimes they are not different from islamists

islamists picked " stoning " ,catholics picked " burning wiccans "
 
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it is mentioned in old testament ,catholics dont have to obey it.....
You asked where it was. I showed you. I didn't say it was in force, I said the words were there in the book.

So, about those ages...you say Aisha was older than 6-7 when she married Muhammad. Ok, how old was she?
 
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You asked where it was. I showed you. I didn't say it was in force, I said the words were there in the book.

So, about those ages...you say Aisha was older than 6-7 when she married Muhammad. Ok, how old was she?

you showed me a wrong evidence .you should have found something mentioned in new testament

no mention of this in kuran

but stoning to death is mentioned in torah ,not in kuran
 
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Come on Madusa, you can do it, I believe in you.....

Say something like:
The popular misconception as to Aishah’s age may be removed here. . . . Isabah, speaking of the Holy Prophet’s daughter Fatimah, says that she was about five years older than Aishah. It is a well-established fact that Fatimah was born when the Ka’bah was being rebuilt, i.e., five years before the Call. Aishah was therefore born in the year of the Call or a little before it, and she could not have been less than ten years at the time of her marriage with the Holy Prophet in the tenth year of the Call. . . . And as the period between her marriage and its consummation was not less than five years, because the consummation took place in the second year of the Flight, it follows that she could not have been less than fifteen at that time. The popular account that she was six years at marriage and nine years at the time of consummation is decidedly not correct because it supposes the period between the marriage and its consummation to be only three years, and this is historically wrong
And give a source like "Maulana Muhammad Ali, Muhammad the Prophet (St. Lambert: Payette and Sims, 1993), pp. 183-184."

I know you can do it.
 
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you showed me a wrong evidence .you should have found something mentioned in new testament

no mention of this in kuran

but stoning to death is mentioned in torah ,not in kuran
No no no, you said:
where is killing jews in bible ?

burning women accused of witchcraft ?

or pedophlic priests ?
The bible is not the torah. If you wanted something only from the New Testament then you should have said that, but you didn't say that, you asked for something from the "bible", and that's what you got.
 
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No no no, you said:

The bible is not the torah. If you wanted something only from the New Testament then you should have said that, but you didn't say that, you asked for something from "the bible", and that's what you got.

no demagogy

anyway ,both stoning and burning wiccans are mentioned in old testament ? yes

why is kuran responsible for this ?
 
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no demagogy

anyway ,both stoning and burning wiccans are mentioned in old testament ? yes

why is kuran responsible for this ?
I didn't say the koran was. You're the one bringing up the bible and Catholics. I said Muhammad married to and had sex with a child, and I gave 5 sources proving it.
 
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I didn't say the koran was. You're the one bringing up the bible and Catholics. I said Muhammad married to and had sex with a child, and I gave 5 sources proving it.

but kuran is the original islam .
 
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but kuran is the original islam .
Then original Islam contains pedophilia because Muhammad married and had sex with a child.
 
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Then original Islam contains pedophilia because Muhammad married and had sex with a child.

thats not the original . kuran is..
 
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thats not the original . kuran is..
The "that" you are referring to is Muhammad. You're saying Muhammad, the author of the koran, is not original Islam.

You're just being silly now.
 
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The "that" you are referring to is Muhammad. You're saying Muhammad, the author of the koran, is not original Islam.

You're just being silly now.

kuran is muhammed ,muhammed is kuran

good night
 
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kuran is muhammed ,muhammed is kuran
And Muhammad had sex with a child. Good night.
 
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The girl was unconscious when they had sex with her. They knew it was rape, because on the video the expression "raped" was used about the girl. They knew perfectly well that they were raping her. The video showed that she was unconsciousness. I don't care if you have 100 sons. If you don't teach them that having sex with an unconscious girl is rape, you're a terrible mother. And shame on you for your victim blaming. Of course we know what happened - it was recorded.

Hey idiot ... Of course my sons know not to have sex without consent. You can make anything up yet that does not make it so.

No ... you do not know what took place before the touching of her vagina. They were wrong yet the entire evening was not recorded.

My point is usually girls while drinking themselves to semi coma-tose say and do things they regret or do not recall. Fact. What if she had said she wanted them to touch her. You do not know anything as very little was recorded. They were wrong yet they are not rapists beyond a shadow of a doubt for touching the vagina of a woman who drank her self semi coma-tose while with them and no one knows or remembers what transpired in those hours of drinking.

I stand firm ... they should all ( the girl included) be in Juvenile D and be educated.

Seriously if I drank myself coma tose and had no memory of what I said or did ... I would not make someone a convicted felon. They are all kids and stupid and ill bred and they were ALL illegally drinking. The boys should get a year in J D and educated and the girl should be educated not to drink to comatose.

All those people are disgusting in their behaviors including the girl who is willing to have no recall of events while drinking herself coma tose yet be down with making them convicted felons when she does not know what she said or did .

Could you send someone to jail if you had no recall of what you said or did before the event?
 
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