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Obama Wants Research to Wean Vehicles off Oil.....

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LEMONT, Ill. — President Barack Obama is pushing Congress to authorize $200 million a year for research into clean energy technologies that can wean automobiles off oil.

Obama proposed the idea of an energy security trust last month in his State of the Union address, but he was putting a price tag on the idea during a trip Friday to the Argonne National Laboratory outside Chicago — $2 billion over 10 years. The White House said the research would be paid for with revenue from federal oil and gas leases on offshore drilling and would not add to the deficit.

The money would fund research on "breakthrough" technologies such as batteries for electric cars and biofuels made from switch grass or other materials. Researchers also would look to improve use of natural gas as a fuel for cars and trucks.

White House officials said the president's proposal would not require expansion of drilling to federal lands or water where it is now prohibited. Instead, they are counting on increased production from existing sites, along with efficiencies from an administration plan to streamline drilling permits. The government collects more than $6 billion a year in royalties from production on federal lands and waters.

Obama's push for the energy trust came as the Environmental Protection Agency released a new report Friday indicating that fuel economy standards rose last year by 1.4 miles per gallon — the largest annual increase since EPA started keeping track. The agency said the improvement was due to better availability of high-performing cars and more options for consumers.

The Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers suggested that rather than encouraging research on fuel-efficient cars, the government should focus on making diverse fuels more available and improving transportation infrastructure.

Argonne is one of the Energy Department's largest national laboratories for scientific and engineering research, staffed by more than 1,250 scientists and engineers. White House officials said it was chosen as the site of the president's speech because of its tradition of research into vehicle technologies.....snip~

Obama wants research to wean vehicles off oil - Americas - Stripes
By MATTHEW DALY and NEDRA PICKLER The Associated Press <<<<<More here!

We did hear Obama say about taking care of infrastructure. So why isn't he listening to the Alliance of Auto Manufacturers on that point. I don't have a problem with Government State, local, and Fed, moving their Vehicles to natural gas. Anybody else? Thoughts?
 
I support it. we should have done this and more in the mid 1970s. better late than never.
 
LEMONT, Ill. — President Barack Obama is pushing Congress to authorize $200 million a year for research into clean energy technologies that can wean automobiles off oil.

Obama proposed the idea of an energy security trust last month in his State of the Union address, but he was putting a price tag on the idea during a trip Friday to the Argonne National Laboratory outside Chicago — $2 billion over 10 years. The White House said the research would be paid for with revenue from federal oil and gas leases on offshore drilling and would not add to the deficit.

The money would fund research on "breakthrough" technologies such as batteries for electric cars and biofuels made from switch grass or other materials. Researchers also would look to improve use of natural gas as a fuel for cars and trucks.

White House officials said the president's proposal would not require expansion of drilling to federal lands or water where it is now prohibited. Instead, they are counting on increased production from existing sites, along with efficiencies from an administration plan to streamline drilling permits. The government collects more than $6 billion a year in royalties from production on federal lands and waters.

Obama's push for the energy trust came as the Environmental Protection Agency released a new report Friday indicating that fuel economy standards rose last year by 1.4 miles per gallon — the largest annual increase since EPA started keeping track. The agency said the improvement was due to better availability of high-performing cars and more options for consumers.

The Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers suggested that rather than encouraging research on fuel-efficient cars, the government should focus on making diverse fuels more available and improving transportation infrastructure.

Argonne is one of the Energy Department's largest national laboratories for scientific and engineering research, staffed by more than 1,250 scientists and engineers. White House officials said it was chosen as the site of the president's speech because of its tradition of research into vehicle technologies.....snip~

Obama wants research to wean vehicles off oil - Americas - Stripes
By MATTHEW DALY and NEDRA PICKLER The Associated Press <<<<<More here!

We did hear Obama say about taking care of infrastructure. So why isn't he listening to the Alliance of Auto Manufacturers on that point. I don't have a problem with Government State, local, and Fed, moving their Vehicles to natural gas. Anybody else? Thoughts?

This guy is a freaking idiot!

We have tons of natural gas,vehicles will run

on it nicely and it is cleaner than gasoline.

Makes perfect sense to spend tons of $ on

electric cars when we can't build power plants!:sarcasticclap
 
How much longer is this virtual idiot in power?

How long?

Crap.


Hey Barack moron?

Why not pay down the deficit with that $2 billion?

You know?

Like you promised when you said you would cut the deficit in half in your first term?

Dickhead.
 
This guy is a freaking idiot!

We have tons of natural gas,vehicles will run

on it nicely and it is cleaner than gasoline.

Makes perfect sense to spend tons of $ on

electric cars when we can't build power plants!:sarcasticclap

Worse yet, the technologies that generally get pushed, like electric cars, are more polluting, more expensive and less efficient than the vehicles we already have. These people are morons. Come up with something that improves on the current model, then come ask for government funding.
 
This guy is a freaking idiot!

We have tons of natural gas,vehicles will run

on it nicely and it is cleaner than gasoline.

Makes perfect sense to spend tons of $ on

electric cars when we can't build power plants!:sarcasticclap

6 Billion in Royalties just off Federal land. Yet he thinks it can be streamlined to be more efficient without drilling more????
 
We've already done the research and paid for it many times over. The alternatives have been available for decades. My uncles have been running their vehicles on clean, cheap, available propane since the 60s. When I first moved to Oregon after the service they had cool little all-electric cars on sale at the battery Exchange for 2K. And damn but one of my favorite cars was a Honda 600 - 50 mpg.
 
Here’s what that choice means. Once these cuts take effect, thousands of teachers and educators will be laid off, and tens of thousands of parents will have to scramble to find child care for their kids. Air traffic controllers and airport security will see cutbacks, causing delays across the country. Even President Bush’s director of the National Institutes of Health says these cuts will set back medical science for a generation.

Already, the threat of these cuts has forced the Navy to delay the deployment of an aircraft carrier to the Persian Gulf – affecting our ability to respond to threats in an unstable part of the world. And just this week, the Pentagon announced that if these cuts go through, almost 800,000 defense employees – the equivalent of every person in Miami and Cleveland combined – will be forced to take unpaid leave.

That’s what this choice means.

That's President Barack Obama. Now, I understand the desire to research alternative forms of energy and I don't even completely feel like we shouldn't be investing some in it as a country. However, if we're facing "thousands of teachers" losing jobs, children losing health coverage, air traffic controllers unable to work, hold illegal immigrants for deportation, deploy our military assets, or pass significant furloughs wouldn't the FAR more prudent thing to do with that 200 million be to funnel it to one of those things we're being told is catastrophic to the wellbeing of the country rather than investing it into technology that may or may not help us anytime in the near future or ever? I mean, if Barack Obama's doomcrying was honest and not just rhetoric of a typical politician...but he'd never do that, because he is a "Change from politics as usual"
 
We should of done this a long time ago. Very wise investment for the future. We (The US) beat someone else to the punch with this research would be a huge leap forward for the country.
I dig this move. :cool:
 
We should of done this a long time ago. Very wise investment for the future. We (The US) beat someone else to the punch with this research would be a huge leap forward for the country.
I dig this move. :cool:

Too bad it's just a political ploy and nothing will come of it.
 
Worse yet, the technologies that generally get pushed, like electric cars, are more polluting, more expensive and less efficient than the vehicles we already have. These people are morons. Come up with something that improves on the current model, then come ask for government funding.

Uhh dude... how do you expect any of that to change without research?
 
Uhh dude... how do you expect any of that to change without research?

Research doesn't come out of a wallet, they actually have to have an IDEA first. Most of the companies sucking on the government teat are just playing with the same old, tired, unworkable electric or hybrid vehicle ideas that we've wasted billions on already and are not closer to replacing gas-powered vehicles than they were decades ago.

Ideas first, funding later.
 
Research doesn't come out of a wallet, they actually have to have an IDEA first. Most of the companies sucking on the government teat are just playing with the same old, tired, unworkable electric or hybrid vehicle ideas that we've wasted billions on already and are not closer to replacing gas-powered vehicles than they were decades ago.

Ideas first, funding later.

... you have fundamental misunderstandings about how research works in... well, anything ever.

People had an idea about making a plane not show up on radar. It took a lot of time, effort, experimentation, and money to figure out how to do it in a flyable, combat-capable fashion. Nobody walked into the Pentagon with a full schematic of an F-117 before they got funding.
 
We've already done the research and paid for it many times over. The alternatives have been available for decades. My uncles have been running their vehicles on clean, cheap, available propane since the 60s. When I first moved to Oregon after the service they had cool little all-electric cars on sale at the battery Exchange for 2K. And damn but one of my favorite cars was a Honda 600 - 50 mpg.

Making them easily accessible, affordable, and mass produced would be another step.
 
... you have fundamental misunderstandings about how research works in... well, anything ever.

People had an idea about making a plane not show up on radar. It took a lot of time, effort, experimentation, and money to figure out how to do it in a flyable, combat-capable fashion. Nobody walked into the Pentagon with a full schematic of an F-117 before they got funding.

Nor did anyone ask for that. What I said was come up with a CONCEPT before you start asking for money. I've yet to hear of anyone develop a new concept for a non-gas-powered vehicle that isn't just a tired new design for the utterly failed electric powered car.
 
Nor did anyone ask for that. What I said was come up with a CONCEPT before you start asking for money. I've yet to hear of anyone develop a new concept for a non-gas-powered vehicle that isn't just a tired new design for the utterly failed electric powered car.

... you really haven't heard about the various concepts for advanced battery design?

All I can suggest is subscribing to some tech magazines or something.
 
If he get's the money for this, it's the Congress fault.
 
I want research done on how to wean America off of Obama.
 
... you really haven't heard about the various concepts for advanced battery design?

All I can suggest is subscribing to some tech magazines or something.

Let us know when they come up with a battery design that doesn't pollute the planet as much as the gas-powered vehicles they're currently whining about. :roll:
 
Let us know when they come up with a battery design that doesn't pollute the planet as much as the gas-powered vehicles they're currently whining about. :roll:

Electric is not the only option out there, or the only option being researched. They are right, what you don't know about the world and how things works is pretty large, and it is made worse through the misinformation you are getting. research is one of the ways new ideas get developed. They are correct no one just comes up with a fully formed idea right off the bat. Especially when you are talking about something like a car. The only thing you are proving is that the uneducated and ignorant should have no place in deciding the direction of things. They cannot make a proper decision with no information or the wrong information. Not to mention being way to easily manipulated.
 
Let us know when they come up with a battery design that doesn't pollute the planet as much as the gas-powered vehicles they're currently whining about. :roll:

...that would be the point of the research, yes?
 
I support it. we should have done this and more in the mid 1970s. better late than never.

Agreed, too little, and about 40 years late, but its a start!
 
I support it. we should have done this and more in the mid 1970s. better late than never.

Speaking of the 70's...

"I'm telling you, the government has a car that runs on water, man. They just don’t want us to know, because then we'd buy all the water. Then there’d be nothing left to drink but beer! And the government knows that beer... set us free."
 
Speaking of the 70's...

"I'm telling you, the government has a car that runs on water, man. They just don’t want us to know, because then we'd buy all the water. Then there’d be nothing left to drink but beer! And the government knows that beer... set us free."

Hey! We could just combine that engine that runs on water with a hydrogen fuel cell... which produces water as a byproduct.

Infinite energy. I just invented it. You're welcome.
 
sure..why not... just put it on the national credit card and let future generations try to pay for it.
 
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