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Florida could keep daylight saving time all year under 'Sunshine Protection Act'

Mr.Nick said:
I could care less if Florida want's to exercise their Tenth Amendment rights but the watches of the Citizens of Florida will slow - or at least appear to slow.

I've already done this "time" experiment - that is how I know I'm right.
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O now it makes sense you're this guy
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Mr.Nick said:
I call that delusional...

I wouldn't say they "choose" their own - more like they "invent" their own - but none of that changes reality.

Honestly I would call that Whole language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia induced authoritarian dictatorship craziness.
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Yes, time zones are invented. Just like daylight savings time. Look at your clock. At the time of this writing, it says "7:03pm" in my time zone. It could say "8:03pm" or "4:36am," this has absolutely no bearing on the earth's rotation or orbit around the sun. The only reason we make these adjustments is because for some reason humanity has decided it's really important that the sun rises somewhere in the mid "AM" range and sets sometime in the mid "PM" range. I guess it's just too weird for us to have to wake up at "4pm" to go work in the morning.

Daylight savings time adjustments go forward an hour in the spring, and back an hour in the fall. The net effect per year is... zero. All of these things are purely arbitrary changes and have no relevance whatsoever to leap years or leap seconds.
 
Pilot said:
Florida could keep daylight saving time all year under 'Sunshine Protection Act'



I don't think this is something that should be done at the state level. It would be chaotic and problematic to have half of the states in the same time zone with different times. As far as the idea of implementing it at the national level; I'm unsure. I like having extra light at night, but I don't like the idea of it still being dark at 8am in the winter.
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I'm pretty sure this is done at the county level, if not at the state level.
 
Mr.Nick said:
I call that delusional...

I wouldn't say they "choose" their own - more like they "invent" their own - but none of that changes reality.

Honestly I would call that Whole language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia induced authoritarian dictatorship craziness.
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I give up, but the bottom line it doesn't matter one iota if FLorida stays on the same time all year around or switches to DST in March and back ST in October. Regardless of the time, the sun will come up in the morning and go down in the evening.
 
Deuce said:
We have leap years and leap seconds because one revolution around the sun doesn't actually come out to be exactly 365 days.

But that is not at all related to daylight savings time. Daylight savings time is purely an arbitrary adjustment of clocks within the normal 24 hour cycle. There are places, even in the US, that have never adjusted for daylight savings time, and yet haven't "lost time." Because daylight savings time is not an adjustment for orbital mechanics, it is purely, 100% arbitrary.

Mr.Nick. I'm a pilot. We operate in "zulu" time. It never has changed from daylight savings time, yet the conversion from zulu to local remains the same as it was when I started flying 13 years ago.
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Who said I wasn't a pilot myself?

All I'm saying is time will drop if one comes up with their "own" idea of time...At least time will drop with an idea like this.


Everyone opposed to what I'm saying is missing an hour - hence the whole purpose of DLST.

The state of Florida is no different than anywhere else in the world and the simple fact we turn our clocks back and forward twice a year don't make the state of Florida any more special, and it certainly doesn't "save time" or "preserve time."
 
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Perotista said:
I give up, but the bottom line it doesn't matter one iota if FLorida stays on the same time all year around or switches to DST in March and back ST in October. Regardless of the time, the sun will come up in the morning and go down in the evening.
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This issue is so far beyond the understanding and education of the majority here that I have absolutely no desire to argue with the remedial who believe what they're talking about...

I'd need to point complex math to prove what I have been saying all along - but no one here could understand the math/proof.

People should just go about their business and enjoy their time on earth instead of arguing with someone who does understand time and relevance.
 
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Mr.Nick said:
It wouldn't mesh with the rest of the US and world.. Eventually in Florida 4:30 pm to the rest in the eastern timezone would become 4:30 AM to Florida, then they would start losing calender days.
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Why inject a day every so often to make up for slack when you could just always update it year round with the magic of computers? The new system is much better after cry babies get over the loss of nostalgia.
 
Mr.Nick said:
Who said I wasn't a pilot myself?

All I'm saying is time will drop if one comes up with their "own" idea of time...At least time will drop with an idea like this.


Everyone opposed to what I'm saying is missing an hour - hence the whole purpose of DLST.

The state of Florida is no different than anywhere else in the world and the simple fact we turn our clocks back and forward twice a year don't make the state of Florida any more special, and it certainly doesn't "save time" or "preserve time."
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Nobody is "missing" an hour. Time isn't dropped, or not dropped, based on our arbitrary setting of clocks, and observing or failing to observe DST does not make a particular location gradually become more and more offset from everyone else.

Florida would never become 12 hours offset from Alabama if this law were implemented. I'm not sure how else to help you grasp this.
 
Wiseone said:
O now it makes sense you're this guy
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Yeah I'm that guy..

Time travel is possible - but it's not "time travel" more like "dimensional jumping." The logistics for a human to survive such a "jump" are impossible presently - not to mention a retrieval.
 
Deuce said:
Nobody is "missing" an hour. Time isn't dropped, or not dropped, based on our arbitrary setting of clocks, and observing or failing to observe DST does not make a particular location gradually become more and more offset from everyone else.

Florida would never become 12 hours offset from Alabama if this law were implemented. I'm not sure how else to help you grasp this.
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Fine, I'm wrong and every clock you don't use in your house is "broken" despite you bought those said clocks and they haven't been touched..

Yeah the rest of the world changes their clocks twice a year - Florida wants to change theirs once... It doesn't take a genius to figure out that problem.
 
Mr.Nick said:
Fine, I'm wrong and every clock you don't use in your house is "broken" despite you bought those said clocks and they haven't been touched..

Yeah the rest of the world changes their clocks twice a year - Florida wants to change theirs once... It doesn't take a genius to figure out that problem.
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Set your clock. Do not touch it for 365 days. Then check the time. How many hours will it be off by? (edit: let's assume the clock maintains correct timing. i.e. it doesn't run fast or slow)
 
Mr.Nick said:
Fine, I'm wrong and every clock you don't use in your house is "broken" despite you bought those said clocks and they haven't been touched..

Yeah the rest of the world changes their clocks twice a year - Florida wants to change theirs once... It doesn't take a genius to figure out that problem.
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Whats the difference in syncing the time with the seasons twice a year, 4 times a year, 10 times a year, 356 times a year?
 
Deuce said:
Set your clock. Do not touch it for 365 days. Then check the time. How many hours will it be off by? (edit: let's assume the clock maintains correct timing. i.e. it doesn't run fast or slow)
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My clock will be off by one hour. A year later it will be another and another after that.

You do the same....

That's why when you find that old watch it's always wrong when it comes to the hour but right when it comes to the minute.

Go find an old watch or clock and tell me I'm wrong.
 
Mr.Nick said:
My clock will be off by one hour. A year later it will be another and another after that.

You do the same....

That's why when you find that old watch it's always wrong when it comes to the hour but right when it comes to the minute.

Go find an old watch or clock and tell me I'm wrong.
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I found an old clock, it was off by one hour. It's been sitting on a shelf in my basement for several years untouched...
 
Mr.Nick said:
My clock will be off by one hour. A year later it will be another and another after that.

You do the same....

That's why when you find that old watch it's always wrong when it comes to the hour but right when it comes to the minute.

Go find an old watch or clock and tell me I'm wrong.
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No, it wont be off by one hour. Daylight savings goes forward an hour and then back an hour, the net result being zero. Where do you think that one hour error comes from, exactly?
 
dirtpoorchris said:
Whats the difference in syncing the time with the seasons twice a year, 4 times a year, 10 times a year, 356 times a year?
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Because we're all on the same schedule... Because if I have to make a call to NYC I know what time it is in NYC for example.

Maybe the powers that be who dictate our economy would appreciate time standards and appreciate our present one that relies on the orbit of our earth instead of what may be convenient for one community?
 
Deuce said:
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No, it wont be off by one hour. Daylight savings goes forward an hour and then back an hour, the net result being zero. Where do you think that one hour error comes from, exactly?
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Hahahahaha...

As I have stated the lost hour is in a Leap Year - the lost time is the extra day..
 
Mr.Nick said:
Hahahahaha...

As I have stated the lost hour is in a Leap Year - the lost time is the extra day..
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Dude. Daylight savings time is not related to leap years, and the error introduced by the leap year effect is not one hour per year.

If leap years were the reason for daylight savings time, the correction would be one day every 24 years, not every 4. Leap year corrections occur because the earth actually takes ~365.25 days to orbit the sun. (error of one day every four years) We introduce leap seconds because it;s actually not exactly 24 hours for the earth to rotate. (and this is irregular, even stuff like earthquakes can slightly alter rotation time)
 
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Mr.Nick said:
Fine, I'm wrong and every clock you don't use in your house is "broken" despite you bought those said clocks and they haven't been touched..

Yeah the rest of the world changes their clocks twice a year - Florida wants to change theirs once...
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incorrect. this bill proposes changing the clocks zero times a year, which has been pointed out many times in this thread.
 
I understand the simplistic and IMO, remedial point everyone here is making but you don't understand mine.
 
Mr.Nick said:
I understand the simplistic and IMO, remedial point everyone here is making but you don't understand mine.
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Your point that Florida would eventually become 12 hours offset from everyone else? No, we understand that. It's just not true.
 
Mr.Nick said:
This issue is so far beyond the understanding and education of the majority here that I have absolutely no desire to argue with the remedial who believe what they're talking about...

I'd need to point complex math to prove what I have been saying all along - but no one here could understand the math/proof.

People should just go about their business and enjoy their time on earth instead of arguing with someone who does understand time and relevance.
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LOL, Okay, time is simple, 24 hours in a day, 365 days in a year with the exception of leap year which I suppose means there are 365 1/4 days in the actual year. Rather Florida stays on daylight savings time for the whole year or switches back and forth between standard and daylight saving will not change the 24 hour clock or the 365 1/4 day year. All it means is during the summer all states in the eastern time zone will be on the same time, during winter when every other state falls back an hour, Florida will be an hour ahead and on the same time as the central time zone on to return to Eastern time when all other states in the eastern time zone spring forward an hour in spring.

But I agree with you, one ought to enjoy his time on earth while he is here. Perhaps we can continue this conversation in our next life.
 
Mr.Nick said:
A country has absolutely no choice what timezone they're in.... That's for the moons, planets, gravity and stars to decide..

Unbelievable...
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I'm seriously calling bull**** here, there's no way you're serious but congratulations by sucking all of us into this and making us believe you've achieved:

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