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Florida could keep daylight saving time all year under 'Sunshine Protection Act'

I think we need to sticky this thread, and post a link to it at other websites.

It's absolutely fascinating.

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Wiseone said:
The Leap Year doesn't have a ****ing thing to do with Daylight Savings Time. I can't believe how stupid you are.
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Yeah ok, and I can't believe I get warned from mods for spewing crap like that at other posters.

Also daylight savings time has everything to do with the Leap Year.

Do you even know what calender we use?
 
Mr.Nick said:
Yeah ok, and I can't believe I get warned from mods for spewing crap like that at other posters.

Also daylight savings time has everything to do with the Leap Year.

Do you even know what calender we use?
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No it doesn't. Jesus Christ how has this gone on for so long.
 
Mr.Nick said:
It doesn't matter... That is simply why they would be two hours off.
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incorrect. Florida would be one hour ahead of its time zone for four months of the year, and would be on the exact same time for the other eight months.

Mr.Nick said:
Isn't there a random clock in your house that hasn't been reset in years?? it reads the wrong time right?

How you think clocks get off time? they're broken? no- no one adjusted them forward or backwards for years.

Using your theory the clock should be either on or off by an hour... Of course the minute hand will always be correct but the hour hand wont...
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i'm truly trying to figure out where your misunderstanding is originating from.


let's do it like this.

currently, Florida and Georgia are in the same time zone. this spreadsheet illustrates what the time would look like in the two states under the new proposal.

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ReformCollege said:
Or just leave it at non-daylight savings all year....
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that's certainly a possibility. however, most people seem to want the extra hour of daylight after work. the best compromise that i can think of is to give them that hour all twelve months of the year.
 
Helix said:
incorrect. Florida would be one hour ahead of its time zone for four months of the year, and would be on the exact same time for the other eight months.



i'm truly trying to figure out where your misunderstanding is originating from.


let's do it like this.

currently, Florida and Georgia are in the same time zone. this spreadsheet illustrates what the time would look like in the two states under the new proposal.

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The problem is that the variance between times will grow - people don't seem to understand that.
 
Mr.Nick said:
Fine if you want make believe times in certain states - whatever. You will be changing your clock everyday instead of twice a year to keep up with the rest of the world.

You do realize if you do this the rest of the world will be on a precise schedule and Florida will see the rest of the worlds events and time in general change?
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Pretty much each country in the world choose which time zone they will be in. The world is broken down into 24 different time zones based on GMT. You do know or realize until 1966 there was no such thing as Daylight Savings time. The Uniform Time Act of 1966 established DST in the United States. Events around the world will occur in what ever time zone that event takes place. It makes no difference if Florida remains on DST all year around and other states do not.

I am not sure what you are getting at. Different countries change their time at different times and we too have let DST and Standard time slip. Right now I have no clue as to what you are getting at here.
 
Wiseone said:
No it doesn't. Jesus Christ how has this gone on for so long.
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Really? then tell me why we add a day day to our calender?

Let me guess - you really never thought about the idea or investigated the idea?

Prove me wrong.

You may as well claim an extra day to a month has nothing to do with time.
 
Perotista said:
Pretty much each country in the world choose which time zone they will be in. The world is broken down into 24 different time zones based on GMT. You do know or realize until 1966 there was no such thing as Daylight Savings time. The Uniform Time Act of 1966 established DST in the United States. Events around the world will occur in what ever time zone that event takes place. It makes no difference if Florida remains on DST all year around and other states do not.

I am not sure what you are getting at. Different countries change their time at different times and we too have let DST and Standard time slip. Right now I have no clue as to what you are getting at here.
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A country has absolutely no choice what timezone they're in.... That's for the moons, planets, gravity and stars to decide..

Unbelievable...
 
Mr.Nick said:
The problem is that the variance between times will grow - people don't seem to understand that.
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it will not grow.

Georgia will move ahead one hour in the spring, and go back one hour in the fall. in other words, 0 + 1 - 1 = 0.

Florida will not move ahead one hour in the spring, nor will it go back one hour in the fall. in other words, 0 + 0 - 0 = 0.

neither state gains or loses any time.
 
Pilot said:
Arizona doesn't observe Daylight Saving Time at all. This bill would make Florida observe Daylight Saving Time year round.
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And the effect difference is?
 
Helix said:
all of Indiana is on DST since 2006. there are just a few counties up by Chicago, and in the south around Evansville which are on central time.
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Got you, my folks use to live in northern Indiana
 
Mr.Nick said:
Really? then tell me why we add a day day to our calender?

Let me guess - you really never thought about the idea or investigated the idea?

Prove me wrong.

You may as well claim an extra day to a month has nothing to do with time.
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A Leap Year is control against the standard year lasting 365.25, by adding an extra day once every four years we maintain a consistency in seasons occurring at their normal times according to our months.

Daylight Savings Time is about maximizing the amount of daylight people have during the hours they are awake and at work, it is done by adjusting the hour of clock either forward or backward by one hour in order to better match the position of the sun as it changes in the sky due to the tilting of the Earth.

Since Daylight Savings Time is canceled out every November it does not add or subtract hours from the year and thus IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM would cause clocks to read 3PM when its completely dark outside for example. Every March an hour is added every November an hour is subtracted, thus there is no net change.

Stop. Being. Retarded.
 
Wiseone said:
A Leap Year is control against the standard year lasting 365.25, by adding an extra day once every four years we maintain a consistency in seasons occurring at their normal times according to our months.

Daylight Savings Time is about maximizing the amount of daylight people have during the hours they are awake and at work, it is done by adjusting the hour of clock either forward or backward by one hour in order to better match the position of the sun as it changes in the sky due to the tilting of the Earth.

Since Daylight Savings Time is canceled out every November it does not add or subtract hours from the year and thus IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM would cause clocks to read 3PM when its completely dark outside for example. Every March an hour is added every November an hour is subtracted, thus there is no net change.

Stop. Being. Retarded.
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Well said!
 
Helix said:
it will not grow.

Georgia will move ahead one hour in the spring, and go back one hour in the fall. in other words, 0 + 1 - 1 = 0.

Florida will not move ahead one hour in the spring, nor will it go back one hour in the fall. in other words, 0 + 0 - 0 = 0.

neither state gains or loses any time.
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Fine, then try it and see what happens.
 
Mr.Nick said:
A country has absolutely no choice what timezone they're in.... That's for the moons, planets, gravity and stars to decide..

Unbelievable...
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I guess that's why they've changed never when a country has decided to change them right?

Also explains why they so often follow borders are similarly reasonable lines, what a coincidence right? I guess China is really lucky or unlucky depending on how you look at it that the stars, moons, planets and gravity decided to put the whole country into one timezone, but somehow it magically lined up with their modern borders

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Also there's only one moon, not moons.
 
Wiseone said:
A Leap Year is control against the standard year lasting 365.25, by adding an extra day once every four years we maintain a consistency in seasons occurring at their normal times according to our months.

Daylight Savings Time is about maximizing the amount of daylight people have during the hours they are awake and at work, it is done by adjusting the hour of clock either forward or backward by one hour in order to better match the position of the sun as it changes in the sky due to the tilting of the Earth.

Since Daylight Savings Time is canceled out every November it does not add or subtract hours from the year and thus IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM would cause clocks to read 3PM when its completely dark outside for example. Every March an hour is added every November an hour is subtracted, thus there is no net change.

Stop. Being. Retarded.
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No, a Leap Year is not about "control" - there is no "about" of it!

A Leap Year only exists to make up for lost time on "our" calender.

Tell me why we need to add an extra day if we don't lose time?

Daylight savings time has absolutely nothing to do with sunlight - that would be about as ignorant as saying Columbus sailed the Atlantic to prove the Earth was round.
 
Perotista said:
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Here is a time zone map, if you can read it, if not here is the URL,

WorldTimeZone - Current time around the World and standard time zones map of the world- 12 format

you will notice that quite a few countries choose their own time.
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I call that delusional...

I wouldn't say they "choose" their own - more like they "invent" their own - but none of that changes reality.

Honestly I would call that Whole language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia induced authoritarian dictatorship craziness.
 
10 pages almost exclusively of trolling, I wonder if this is a site record?
 
I could care less if Florida want's to exercise their Tenth Amendment rights but the watches of the Citizens of Florida will slow - or at least appear to slow.

I've already done this "time" experiment - that is how I know I'm right.
 
Pilot said:
10 pages almost exclusively of trolling, I wonder if this is a site record?
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Yet you praise me in other threads....

Nice fly boy... By the way, Chimps can fly airplanes these days so such a title of "Pilot" isn't that all impressive.
 
Mr.Nick said:
Anyone who want to continue to judge my position on this issue should tell me why we have leap years AND why we have them every 4/7 years? (the math behind that isn't important right now).
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We have leap years and leap seconds because one revolution around the sun doesn't actually come out to be exactly 365 days.

But that is not at all related to daylight savings time. Daylight savings time is purely an arbitrary adjustment of clocks within the normal 24 hour cycle. There are places, even in the US, that have never adjusted for daylight savings time, and yet haven't "lost time." Because daylight savings time is not an adjustment for orbital mechanics, it is purely, 100% arbitrary.

Mr.Nick. I'm a pilot. We operate in "zulu" time. It never has changed from daylight savings time, yet the conversion from zulu to local remains the same as it was when I started flying 13 years ago.
 
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