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AP PHOTOS: Mob in Pakistan torches Christian homes

Who said anything about 'enlightened thinking'.

The CIA states that it holds free and fair elections and is a democracy.

Now, if you and Grant wish to call that a country that is politically repressive - go ahead.

Though how a country can be a politically repressive one when it holds free and fair elections is beyond me.

I pointed out how turkey's secularism and religious moderation was a very minority point of view in the islamic world, and you cited Indonesia to counter that


http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...orches-christian-homes-12.html#post1061550638
 
The point is, you're arguing that their imaginary friend is worse than your imaginary friend. You're grouping 1 billion people with a few radicals. It's ridiculous. If you were a real christian, you'd pray for their souls instead of jumping on debate sites and smack talking them because they share a religion with idiots.

Bingo.
 
We are there because their governments want us there. When their governments no longer want us there we won't be.

sorry whose goverments ??

globalism isnt like that.........
 
But if you have links to pertinent facts from unbiased sources - I will probably look at them.


Have a nice day.

"Unbiased" and "pertinent" isn't dictated by what you like, and Pew has a long established reputation in the area
 
While news reports coming out of the country says otherwise.

And that is different from the United States regarding free and fair elections and what news reports have said coming out of the country?
 
shhhhhh

dont let common sense and logc get in the way of being uneducated and grouping people together in a biased and bigoted way

you're silly RA ;)

Actually places like Pakistan and Egypt poll 80% among the islamic population in support of executing people who change their religion. Which, while I wouldn't describe it as radical (because they are looking to the state for such action), it would certainly be violent
 
I pointed out how turkey's secularism and religious moderation was a very minority point of view in the islamic world, and you cited Indonesia to counter that


http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...orches-christian-homes-12.html#post1061550638

I did no such thing.

The truth is I thought your point was irrelevent.

I ws simply pointing out to Grant that there are indeed countries where the majority of the population are Muslim that are not politically repressive.

Then you jumped in with your point.

Which I read, discarded as irrelevent to my point and posted what I felt like posting as a reply.


Have a nice day.
 
weird? I dont recal reading that anywhere
can you post where i factually said that?

oh thats right, you cant cause you made it up LMAO

the point was falsely grouping people together based on the actions of some is illogical, dishonest, uneducated and or bigoted :shrug:

so yes my actual logic is sound since its based on common sense :D

RabidAlpaca posted this:

At the absolute most you could estimate 1 million violent, radical muslims in the world. There are currently 1 billion muslims. That represents .1% of the muslim population.

Then you quoted him, boldened the part above and responded with this:
shhhhhh
dont let common sense and logc get in the way of being uneducated and grouping people together in a biased and bigoted way

you're silly RA ;)


the fact is, his "one million" figure was just made up.......no real basis for it whatsover..........and you defend it as "logic" and "common sense"........how silly! :lol:
 
I did no such thing.

Yes you did. It's right at the link, so I am lost on what you think lying will accomplish

The truth is I thought your point was irrelevent.

You seem like the type that thinks anything that proves you wrong is irrelevant.

I ws simply pointing out to Grant that there are indeed countries where the majority of the population are Muslim that are not politically repressive.

Indonesia is dealing with some huge issues on the religious front, and extremism and fundamentalism is a huge concern there. Not sure why you would want to ignore that

Then you jumped in with your point.

If you want to have a private conversation with him I suggest taking it to PMs

Which I read, discarded as irrelevent to my point and posted what I felt like posting as a reply.

Nope, you tried to address it, was proven wrong, and now claim you never addressed it and always saw it as irrelevant ...
 
I ws simply pointing out to Grant that there are indeed countries where the majority of the population are Muslim that are not politically repressive.

That's not quite right. What i said was "ALL are repressive. All of them. Of course if you want to name one that isn't I'd like to hear back from you".

Having a larger percentage of Muslims does not mean it is an "Islamic dominated country". Islam did not rule over Turkey, though it soon will. You are being less than honest here.
 
Yes you did. It's right at the link, so I am lost on what you think lying will accomplish



You seem like the type that thinks anything that proves you wrong is irrelevant.



Indonesia is dealing with some huge issues on the religious front, and extremism and fundamentalism is a huge concern there. Not sure why you would want to ignore that



If you want to have a private conversation with him I suggest taking it to PMs



Nope, you tried to address it, was proven wrong, and now claim you never addressed it and always saw it as irrelevant ...

Okaaaay.

I just got through telling you that I do not wish to waste my time debating with someone with an apparent closed mind who seems to negatively judge people by their religious beliefs.

And then you reply with one of these multi-quote replies?

Whenever I see one of those (especially the ones with 4 or more quotes), that just screams out; 'Please debate with me'.

Sorry, not in the mood for the reasons I have mentioned twice now.

But keep those links to unbiased, factual statistics coming all you wish.


Have a nice day.
 
RabidAlpaca posted this:



Then you quoted him, boldened the part above and responded with this:



the fact is, his "one million" figure was just made up.......no real basis for it whatsover..........and you defend it as "logic" and "common sense"........how silly! :lol:

Then by all means, I'd like to see your reference showing that more than 1 million muslims are actually personally violent and radical. That is the entire basis of the christians in this thread. That the christian religion is superior because the muslim faith is violent.
 
Okaaaay.

I just got through telling you that I do not wish to waste my time debating with someone with an apparent closed mind who seems to negatively judge people by their religious beliefs.

1) I don't negatively judge people for their religous beliefs.

2) you are free to ignore me

And then you reply with one of these multi-quote replies?

Are you seriously crying because I responded to you on an open forum?

Whenever I see one of those, that just screams out 'Please debate with me'...no offense.

None taken, but I'm fine with you ignoring my posts. I just find yours willfully misinformed at best, and dishonest at worst, so felt it was necessarily to reply to them. If you stop posting, none of this would be necessary though

Sorry, not in the mood for the reasons I have mentioned twice now.

Well, you penned a reply to tell me how you're not going to reply ....

But keep those links to unbiased, factual statistics coming all you wish.

and keep ignoring information that doesn't mesh with what you want to believe


Have a nice day.

you too
 
Okaaaay.

I just got through telling you that I do not wish to waste my time debating with someone with an apparent closed mind who seems to negatively judge people by their religious beliefs.

We cannot judge people by their beliefs? That would seem to be a pretty good place to start.
 
Then by all means, I'd like to see your reference showing that more than 1 million muslims are actually personally violent and radical. That is the entire basis of the christians in this thread. That the christian religion is superior because the muslim faith is violent.

would you saying supporting state executions for changing your religion was violent?
 
Then by all means, I'd like to see your reference showing that more than 1 million muslims are actually personally violent and radical. That is the entire basis of the christians in this thread. That the christian religion is superior because the muslim faith is violent.

There are other factors as to why the Christian religion is superior to Islam, with The Golden Rule probably being chief among them.
 
That's not quite right. What i said was "ALL are repressive. All of them. Of course if you want to name one that isn't I'd like to hear back from you".

Having a larger percentage of Muslims does not mean it is an "Islamic dominated country". Islam did not rule over Turkey, though it soon will. You are being less than honest here.

Yes it does.

Being a Muslim dominated country means, by definition, that it is an Islamic dominated country.


Mus·lim (mzlm, mz-, ms-, ms-)
n.
1. also Mos·lem (mzlm, ms-) A believer in or adherent of Islam.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Muslim



Is·lam
[is-lahm, iz-, is-luhm, iz-] Show IPA
noun
1.
the religious faith of Muslims,

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/islam
 
1) I don't negatively judge people for their religous beliefs.

2) you are free to ignore me



Are you seriously crying because I responded to you on an open forum?



None taken, but I'm fine with you ignoring my posts. I just find yours willfully misinformed at best, and dishonest at worst, so felt it was necessarily to reply to them. If you stop posting, none of this would be necessary though



Well, you penned a reply to tell me how you're not going to reply ....



and keep ignoring information that doesn't mesh with what you want to believe




you too
Whatever.

Like I said, start posting links to unbiased, factual statistics that back up your claims - I probably will read them.

Until then....


have a nice day.
 
Yes it does.

Being a Muslim dominated country means, by definition, that it is an Islamic dominated country.

I said "An Islamic dominated country". It seems you are now moving beyond an error into deliberate obfuscation.

Is·lam·ism (s-lämzm, z-, sl-, z-)
n.
1. An Islamic revivalist movement, often characterized by moral conservatism, literalism, and the attempt to implement Islamic values in all spheres of life.
2. The religious faith, principles, or cause of Islam.
 
would you saying supporting state executions for changing your religion was violent?
I'm saying that if a christian dictator or radicalist were executing people for laws written in the bible, you'd throw a hissy fit if someone tried to associate you with him.

There are other factors as to why the Christian religion is superior to Islam, with The Golden Rule probably being chief among them.

Don't get me started on comparing you two kids. You're both barbarians.
 
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