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Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

You ever been to a gun show?

You can tell the difference between someone who collects guns and who wants one to kill someone. A gun dealer will not sell a gun to someone that wants to kill someone.

You clearly have no experience with gun owners or dealers. Go try to buy a gun just to do it and see what happens. They will size you up and if you don't know what you're talking about or look like you don't know what the hell you're doing they won't sell you a gun.

You better believe gun dealers, owners, traders etc know what they're selling or trading can take a human life and that is a lot more serious than a profit. 100 bucks profit is not worth a human life - I know to a selfish progressive it is (because you assume we're greedy rednecks obsessed with murder) but not to us responsible folk.

Go learn something about us "gun nuts" before you make insane accusations.

This is the abortion thread. Make a new thread and I'll demonstrate just how wrong you are.
 
You don't know where the Constitution uses the word "person"?

I'm not surprised at all


Show me where in the Constitution a person is defined.
 
I don't care what you want to call it... The definition of knowingly and intentionally taking ones life in the English language is Murder.

You can call that action a shoe for all I care.

However you're a shining example and product of "whole language." Whole language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Now doesn't that whole language thing sound familiar?

Wrong again

Murder is defined as the unlawful killing of a human

Abortion is legal and never is murder
 
I don't care what you want to call it... The definition of knowingly and intentionally taking ones life in the English language is Murder.

You can call that action a shoe for all I care.

However you're a shining example and product of "whole language." Whole language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Now doesn't that whole language thing sound familiar?

It's not life. Up to the first trimester, the brain stem is not attached so it is a vegetable by definition. Not even able to be alive outside the womb. That's not murder. That's terminating a pregnancy.
 
SCOTUS is and they did

The SCOTUS isn't in a position to be making those judgments either. They're lawyers not God.

To make matters even worse the Fourteenth Amendment completely contradicts everything the SCOTUS spews on just about every ruling.
 
The SCOTUS isn't in a position to be making those judgments either. They're lawyers not God.

To make matters even worse the Fourteenth Amendment completely contradicts everything the SCOTUS spews on just about every ruling.

The constitution grants SCOTUS the authority to make those judgements. The people gave them that power
 
The constitution is not a dictionary. It doesn't define any word

Hence everything you have implied in this thread is nonsense...

Is the SCOTUS a dictionary? apparently you think they are.
 
The constitution grants SCOTUS the authority to make those judgements. The people gave them that power

No the people did not grant the SCOTUS that power...

This is not a direct democracy and the SCOTUS was not a ballot proposition.
 
Hence everything you have implied in this thread is nonsense...

Is the SCOTUS a dictionary? apparently you think they are.

SCOTUS has the authority to determine the meaning of words as they are used in the constitution
 
SCOTUS has the authority to determine the meaning of words as they are used in the constitution

No, the responsibility of the SCOTUS is to interpret law - not define words.

You're a big ball of fun.
 
Yes, the people did grant SCOTUS that power.

Really? prove it... Educate us all on the basis of the SCOTUS existence.

Oh yeah that is right you cant.
 
Besides the SCOTUS is basically unconstitutional itself. The SCOTUS are nothing more than arbitrators that only exist to settle legislation disputes or the legality of a piece of legislation. The retarded part is that if congress passes a law and the president signs the legislation it's law - only the president has veto power NOT the SCOTUS.. That makes the SCOTUS illegal and the majority of legislation passed by congress illegal and tyrannical if it violates the Bill of Rights.

Outside of the legality behind the SCOTUS, the simple fact the arbitrators exist shows our lawmakers have absolutely no idea what they're doing if they need a higher court to legitimize their laws. These said lawmakers wouldn't know their head from their ass and that is sad because the majority of them are lawyers...

Sad no one looks at it from that perspective.
 
No, the responsibility of the SCOTUS is to interpret law - not define words.

You're a big ball of fun.

SCOTUS does not define words. It determines the meaning of words as they were used in the constitution
 
Besides the SCOTUS is basically unconstitutional itself. The SCOTUS are nothing more than arbitrators that only exist to settle legislation disputes or the legality of a piece of legislation. The retarded part is that if congress passes a law and the president signs the legislation it's law - only the president has veto power NOT the SCOTUS.. That makes the SCOTUS illegal and the majority of legislation passed by congress illegal and tyrannical if it violates the Bill of Rights.

Outside of the legality behind the SCOTUS, the simple fact the arbitrators exist shows our lawmakers have absolutely no idea what they're doing if they need a higher court to legitimize their laws. These said lawmakers wouldn't know their head from their ass and that is sad because the majority of them are lawyers...

Sad no one looks at it from that perspective.

SCOTUS is illegal? :screwy

:lamo :lamo :lamo
 
SCOTUS is illegal? :screwy

:lamo :lamo :lamo


It's blatantly illegal....

How can a congress pass a law, the president signs it and then it's overturned by a bunch of arbitrators?

Why bother even having a president?

Why not just have a "spokesman" and then let the SCOTUS be the final judge when it comes to legislation - all 9 of them. Let 9 people dictate the US...

The SCOTUS violates the democratic republic process in so many ways it makes the founding principals of this nation a joke to what it is supposed to be.
 
Is Google not your friend?

You're the one making the argument, and you're allegedly trying to make a point - so point it out.

I know the Constitution and have one in my pocket, however you're the one making claims so back them up - educate us all.
 
You're the one making the argument, and you're allegedly trying to make a point - so point it out.

I know the Constitution and have one in my pocket, however you're the one making claims so back them up - educate us all.

In that case, your request for Art III was dishonest
 
In that case, your request for Art III was dishonest

Are you some sort of macro robot?

I type something then get an automated response?
 
If you think the SCOTUS is so damn great then go learn some Latin.

You think those nuts sound so sophisticated when the talk their junk in Latin? Most of the time what they're saying in Latin translates into stupid **** like: "A man dropped a rock on my foot therefore I can drop a turtle on his head" and they use that nonsense as a formal analogy.

We let massive idiots control this country.
 
And there have been hundreds (if not thousands) of cases where premes survived outside the mother. So who are you to determine the validity of a life?

You may as well say old people who need constant care should just be murdered because they couldn't survive on their own.

Guess what? an infant cant survive on it's own.... Hell, generally a kid younger than 5-years-old probably couldn't survive on its own.



I suppose your point is moot.

Do you understand what pre viable means? Pre viaible means it cannot survive outside the womb. Premies that survive are viable so they can survive outside the womb.

Of course an infant needs to be cared for but Ian infant can survive without the bio mom. A doctor ,nurse, grandparent, adoptive parent or caregiver can take care of the infants needs.

And my point was not moot.

As I said a pre viable fetus can not live outside the womb.
 
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