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Kansas Democrats force amendment to include lawmakers in welfare drug tests

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Saw this. Great move by some Dems in my state.
But unfortunately this is going to be a giant waste of money, just look at Florida's little experiment with this.
 
cpwill said:
I'm fine with that. Long since time our Employees started living under the rules they foist upon us.
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I agree. One of the things that upsets me the most from our legislators is when they pass a law and then exempt themselves from it.
 
azgreg said:
I agree. One of the things that upsets me the most from our legislators is when they pass a law and then exempt themselves from it.
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Can you give an example of this?
 
Blue_State said:
Kansas Senate passes bill to require drug tests for welfare, unemployment recipients ... and lawmakers - KansasCity.com

HA..haha...hahahaha. Wow...I love this move. PLEASE...oh please let a lawmaker get busted. If you want to regulate...get regulated. LOVE IT!
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Absofreeginlutely!

Someone on welfare doesn't have the leverage to **** with my life quite like a politican can. With great power comes great responsibility so.... hand over that pee Mr. Distinguished Gentleman.
 
Deuce said:
Can you give an example of this?
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OSHA and the Freedom of Information Act for starters. Oh, and a small fairly new law called the PPACA.
 
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azgreg said:
I agree. One of the things that upsets me the most from our legislators is when they pass a law and then exempt themselves from it.
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Which is why there needs to be a process of federal referendum so the people can pass federal laws themselves - so they can directly limit the power of our federal legislators who impose stupid laws on the rest of the people of this country.
 
poweRob said:
Absofreeginlutely!

Someone on welfare doesn't have the leverage to **** with my life quite like a politican can. With great power comes great responsibility so.... hand over that pee Mr. Distinguished Gentleman.
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More likely, Kansas will be the first red state to decriminalize marijuana. And possibly most other recreational drugs.
 
samsmart said:
More likely, Kansas will be the first red state to decriminalize marijuana. And possibly most other recreational drugs.
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What a crazy twist that'd be. But first? Dunno about that. Could be a race...

Reduced marijuana penalties OK'd by Oklahoma panel

Criminal penalties for marijuana possession in Oklahoma would be reduced under a bill passed without objection by a House committee.

The House Public Safety Committee voted 14-0 on Wednesday for the bill that would make first and second offenses of marijuana possession a misdemeanor. Under current law, a second offense is a felony punishable by between two and 10 years in prison.

Stillwater Democratic Rep. Cory Williams says he would have preferred to make all marijuana possession offenses misdemeanors, but that such a proposal was unlikely to pass the committee.

Williams says it makes little sense to imprison someone or burden them with a felony conviction for simply possessing a drug that is legal in some states.​
 
samsmart said:
Which is why there needs to be a process of federal referendum so the people can pass federal laws themselves - so they can directly limit the power of our federal legislators who impose stupid laws on the rest of the people of this country.
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Wth?
We basically already have that.
It is called an election.

Or are you saying you forget we live in a Republic?
 
Excon said:
Wth?
We basically already have that.
It is called an election.

Or are you saying you forget we live in a Republic?
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And you believe the choice between D or R actually constitutes a functional republic? Do you also think people shouldn't complain about being run over by a truck because they got to choose the logo plastered on the side?
 
ChunkySalsa said:
And you believe the choice between D or R actually constitutes a functional republic? Do you also think people shouldn't complain about being run over by a truck because they got to choose the logo plastered on the side?
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Spare me your hyperbolic absurdity!
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Secondly, the last time I checked, we made it this far with what we have. That isn't anything to sneeze at.
Additionally, I believe we have many examples of third parties being elected over the years.
The main problem with most third parties is generally they can not garner enough support to get elected. That isn't the republics fault, but the party's fault.
 
Blue_State said:
Kansas Senate passes bill to require drug tests for welfare, unemployment recipients ... and lawmakers - KansasCity.com

HA..haha...hahahaha. Wow...I love this move. PLEASE...oh please let a lawmaker get busted. If you want to regulate...get regulated. LOVE IT!
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II - All Opening Post threads posted in *BN* must have:

• Static link to an article from a bona-fide news organization.
• Dateline within the past 48 hours.
• Exact same title as the cited article.
 
Excon said:
Wth?
We basically already have that.
It is called an election.

Or are you saying you forget we live in a Republic?
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No. We don't have that. We don't have that at all.

Yes, we elect representatives on what they campaign to do.

But there's no way to force those representatives we elected to do what they campaigned on. Except to elect someone else in the next election.

Which, because of how the two-party system has implemented safeguards for incumbents, is quite difficult to do.

Which means that the only legislation that gets passed is the legislation that those in power want passed - regardless of what the people want.

Which is why there needs to be a way for the people to directly pass what they want, so that such things get passed even when our representatives are against it.
 
vendur said:
II - All Opening Post threads posted in *BN* must have:

• Static link to an article from a bona-fide news organization.
• Dateline within the past 48 hours.
• Exact same title as the cited article.
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Good Point, I got the second article I was reading. Intent is correct though.

Here is the link to the original artical I quoted and put the title on the thread of.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/02/28/kansas-democrats-force-amendment-to-include-lawmakers-in-welfare-drug-tests/
 
Excon said:
Spare me your hyperbolic absurdity!
:doh

Secondly, the last time I checked, we made it this far with what we have. That isn't anything to sneeze at.
Additionally, I believe we have many examples of third parties being elected over the years.
The main problem with most third parties is generally they can not garner enough support to get elected. That isn't the republics fault, but the party's fault.
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Spare me your deluded naivety. We have a plutocratic hegemony consisting of millionaires who write the laws to keep themselves in power and profiting. They can do whatever the **** they want so long as their friends in the media can spin the negative consequences as the other team's fault and their propaganda machines can wash out the objections of the experts. Third parties will never gain power so long as the Reps and Dems write the laws and get to select who they want voting for them.
 
Strange way to get democrats to do something worth doing. There's an emerging market for cups that guarantee a negative test result.
 
azgreg said:
OSHA and the Freedom of Information Act for starters. Oh, and a small fairly new law called the PPACA.
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I figured you'd bring up PPACA, hence the question. Congress isn't exempt from the PPACA. They use the exact same health care plan that all federal employees do, and are actually explicitly required to participate in an insurance exchange under the PPACA.
 
I think it is always a good idea to insure our elected officials are maintaining good moral integrity.
They should also undergo a through audit every year in office.
Corruption of elected officials, could cost a lot more than tax evasion.
 
longview said:
I think it is always a good idea to insure our elected officials are maintaining good moral integrity.
They should also undergo a through audit every year in office.
Corruption of elected officials, could cost a lot more than tax evasion.
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The people have the right to elect a coke head if they want. They can elect (I am sure he would win somewhere) Hugh Hefner. I would be more for honesty out of our politicians. I really don't care what they are doing in their house.
 
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