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Father wants school dress code changed after son asked to remove Marines T-shirt

Hey madman, where'd you go?

*crickets*
 
Zyphlin said:
And in this case, I can relatively understand a parent trusting that a Teacher actually knew the rules they were supposed to enforce and trusting that teacher rather than going to the school to dig up the rules himself. I think that'd be a relatively standard action for most people who aren't necessarily involved in legal or political things routinely (and thus would think of that kind of thing)
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The point being is that if he went through the process with the school before going to the media, he would have known. If I have an issue with the school, I am not getting the media involved(if at all) until I have taken a few basic steps, such as talking to the school.
 
Let's say that the school's dress code didn't allow any shirts with depictions of guns on them. So what's the big deal there? I guarantee that most of the people here support school dress codes to some degree. Who gives a **** what else is on the shirt if the shirt has something that is banned? Would a shirt with two sailors ****ing each other on it be less against the rules if it was on a shirt that also said "US Navy"?

If the school ain't in your local area, who ****ing cares?
 
Did you even read the linked article? This was not supposed to have happened. The USMC shirt, guns or not, was not found to be a violation of the school's dress code. The entire story appears to the the misinterprtation of the school dress code by a single teacher. ;)
 
mak2 said:
It gets you guys all rilled up about something that is not really an issue. My Mom will be sending me emails about this tonight. It is a no issue that further divides the right and left for no real reason.
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I don't really see this as a right/left issue.

This is more like a normal people vs morons issue. Sort of like when PETA comes out wanting us to stop swatting mosquito's. sure it is a non-story, but that it becomes national news is not surprising.
 
j-mac said:
What a obtuse way of approaching the argument....Getting all offended that the over reacting teacher was offended at the cross arms on a marine t-shirt....maybe it is an assumption on my part about the teachers ideology, but I prefer an educated guess....See, if it were a conservative teacher, he wouldn't have reacted to the t-shirt in that manner. Only a pansy liberal gets all offended by shows of support of our troops, or their weapons...That is my opinion.
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The reaction was to the assumed rule violation. Only liberals seem to think rules should apply.

See how stupid that kind of argument is?
 
clownboy said:
Who adores Gibbs and NCIS. :mrgreen:

I agree with the admin, she was probably just gun-shy because of all the recent shootings.
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My sister, who is far more conservative than most of the conservatives on this board(as is her husband, you should hear the two of us argue, though it is all in good fun), thinks NCIS is the best show on TV. I have no clue who or what Gibbs is, so no comment on that.
 
Redress said:
The reaction was to the assumed rule violation. Only liberals seem to think rules should apply.

See how stupid that kind of argument is?
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That's not true, conservatives believe in rules. BTW, I think madman assumed the father was a conservative, but I don't remember reading any proof of that.
 
SO who is the morons? Maybe the ones making the national story out of nothing? Oh, I bet that's not what you were thinking.
ARealConservative said:
I don't really see this as a right/left issue.

This is more like a normal people vs morons issue. Sort of like when PETA comes out wanting us to stop swatting mosquito's. sure it is a non-story, but that it becomes national news is not surprising.
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American said:
That's not true, conservatives believe in rules.
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That would certainly in part highlight how stupid the argument J-mac is using, yes.
 
mak2 said:
SO who is the morons? Maybe the ones making the national story out of nothing? Oh, I bet that's not what you were thinking.
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the teacher is the moron. She applied a dress code intended to outlaw gang colors and violence to outlaw a Marines shirt.

As for the story itself, you are just as much a part of its national story as I am.
 
Ok, good and the superintendent corrected the teacher. No harm done. Now it is national news. I guess it is just me that sees a problem with the constant Fauxrages designed to keep everyone stirred up. It kinda bothers because my realtives beleieve every word of this. Tonight I will get an email about the libs in some high school that outlawed Marine Corps T shirts. Tell me there arent millions more like them out there. Talk about low information voters.
ARealConservative said:
the teacher is the moron. She applied a dress code intended to outlaw gang colors and violence to outlaw a Marines shirt.

As for the story itself, you are just as much a part of its national story as I am.
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Zyphlin said:
Could someone explain me how being annoyed at a PUBLIC, tax payer funded schools dress code = not liking smaller government?
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Because it doesn't really affect them, it only affects those who are under the local jurisdiction involved. They can certainly have an opinion about whether or not th erule is stupid, but to actually extend to the level of annoyance or outrage about the rule, and especially to call for a change in the rule, is big government **** all the way and is in opposition to a small government mentality.

The taxes which pay for that PUBLIC institution are primarily local taxes. It's not everyone's business.

I look at this like how I look at Texas' right to teach creationism in their schools. I personally think it is phenomenally retarded to teach creationism in a public school, and I oppose the **** out of it locally, but I also support Texas' right to do something that I personally think is phenomenally retarded in their own schools. More power to them.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Did you even read the linked article? This was not supposed to have happened. The USMC shirt, guns or not, was not found to be a violation of the school's dress code. The entire story appears to the the misinterprtation of the school dress code by a single teacher. ;)
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Is this directed at me?
 
mak2 said:
He is not involved in leagle or polotical things so he didnt think about talking to the school, his first thought was calling fox news. Yep, you are right, the sky is blue.
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Political in the notion of political science, policy, etc...IE the type of mind that runs to check the laws when they get a ticket, or the HOA regs when they get an infraction, or the rulebook if they were called for something in a sport. I would think many people would simply trust the word of an official entity that's expected to know those laws/regs/rules such as a cop, board members, or Refs. But they may think the enforcement of said rule is wrong and want to make a stir about it. I don't actually think that's too atypical or out of the norm, which is why I don't really fault him for it. From my experience, running to the policy is not a universally common response.
 
mak2 said:
Ok, good and the superintendent corrected the teacher. No harm done. Now it is national news. I guess it is just me that sees a problem with the constant Fauxrages designed to keep everyone stirred up. It kinda bothers because my realtives beleieve every word of this. Tonight I will get an email about the libs in some high school that outlawed Marine Corps T shirts. Tell me there arent millions more like them out there. Talk about low information voters.
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no harm? the kid had to walk around all day with his shirt inside out. he was led to believe he did something wrong. Some harm was done.

This is a true story. your relatives should believe every word of this story.

some people are so scared they will remove people of their rights for the allusion of security. Considering all the news that is being run, this seems as good as any.
 
Tucker Case said:
Because it doesn't really affect them, it only affects those who are under the local jurisdiction involved.
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And the father, who the original post was seemingly referencing in terms of the comment about small government, was under that local jurisdiction.
 
But they dont hear every word. Me and you know the story, we have disected it and looked at it. All the RWers I know will hear is them damn libs in education are hating on the Marine Corps...and guns...and...I am going to the gym I give up.
ARealConservative said:
This is a true story. your relatives should believe every word of this story.

some people are so scared they will remove people of their rights for the allusion of security. Considering all the news that is being run, this seems as good as any.
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mak2 said:
Ok, good and the superintendent corrected the teacher. No harm done. Now it is national news. I guess it is just me that sees a problem with the constant Fauxrages designed to keep everyone stirred up. It kinda bothers because my realtives beleieve every word of this. Tonight I will get an email about the libs in some high school that outlawed Marine Corps T shirts. Tell me there arent millions more like them out there. Talk about low information voters.
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And a random person being shot isn't national news either, and yet we were having a proliferation of such stories with that as well. Because, as Redress accurately said, most news agencies...not just fox...are businesses built around generating controversy to up readership and thus up advertiser dollars, and they glom onto sensationalized things that have no business being a national story because it helps that cause.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
No, It was intended as a reply to the thread's OP. Did I mess up?
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No, you didn't mess up. I just wanted to double check since it came immediately after my post. Sometimes people respond to the post above theirs without quoting it.
 
Turning a tee shirt inside out is a bit different...I see your point thogh. Probably cause of the 24 hour news cycle now days. Gotta fill that time.
Zyphlin said:
And a random person being shot isn't national news either, and yet we were having a proliferation of such stories with that as well. Because, as Redress accurately said, most news agencies...not just fox...are businesses built around generating controversy to up readership and thus up advertiser dollars, and they glom onto sensationalized things that have no business being a national story because it helps that cause.
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Zyphlin said:
And the father, who the original post was seemingly referencing in terms of the comment about small government, was under that local jurisdiction.
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Absolutely. But why is some local situation that is really trivial making national news at all? Ultimately, it is because many of the people who consider themselves "small government" are not actually small government. They only promote those principles when they suits their purposes.
 
Zyphlin said:
No, but there are definitely conservatives individuals in it. Both my Sister and my Cousin would qualify as two Conservative teachers I know.
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Would they have forced the boy to turn the shirt inside out, and threaten him with suspension if he didn't? Or, would they have not referred the matter to the principle?
 
j-mac said:
Would they have forced the boy to turn the shirt inside out, and threaten him with suspension if he didn't? Or, would they have not referred the matter to the principle?
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the odds are very very high that this teacher leans to the left on gun control issues, but the story doesn't say, and it doesn't really matter.
 
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